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BristolUK Oct 29th 2019 1:12 am

Re: Linux - Installing & using
 

Originally Posted by BuckinghamshireBoy (Post 12755521)
You knew this, right?

Nope. Didn't have a clue.

There are real people called Linus? :ohmy:

Except Linus Roache, of course. I know him. :lol:


BuckinghamshireBoy Oct 29th 2019 11:03 pm

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Meanwhile back in Sony City, a known Windows stronghold.

Windows System Image creation spots three partitions and backs them up.

Good boy. :thumb:

Next boot of gpartd via USB partition report on the main MBR drive shows:

/dev/sda1 as ntfs, label recovery, flag diag <== Sony's recovery partition
/dev/sda2 as ntfs, label system reserved, flag boot <=== Flag says it all, plus it's 100MB, the ultimate giveaway
/dev/sda3 as ntfs, no label, no flag, bloody huge <=== Ah, Windows, there you are
/dev/sda4 as ntfs, label recovery, flag diag <=== What? A cuckoo?

So, with the system secured, next steps will be to delete /dev/sda4, shrink /dev/sda3 a bit then try Mint back in for a side by side install.

I really thought that the Vaio would have been UEFI/GPT, it is only eleven years old. :confused:

caretaker Oct 29th 2019 11:11 pm

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Yeah, who knew? I'm still patting myself on the back for learning really basic stuff.

sid nv Oct 30th 2019 12:01 am

Re: Linux - Installing & using
 

So, with the system secured, next steps will be to delete /dev/sda4, shrink /dev/sda3 a bit then try Mint back in for a side by side install.
Ah, I see the problem - your MBR primary partition count is maxed out. Just ensure you don't delete the active recovery partition.

And, it's allright. I have no life either.


BuckinghamshireBoy Oct 30th 2019 11:12 am

Re: Linux - Installing & using
 

Originally Posted by sid nv (Post 12756087)
Ah, I see the problem - your MBR primary partition count is maxed out. Just ensure you don't delete the active recovery partition.

And, it's allright. I have no life either.

I leave that kind of thing to Microsoft :lol:

This post is brought to you courtesy of Firefox on Mint 19.2, now happily dual booting alongside Windows on the Vaio. It's a bit early for a beer.

@ caretaker During the Mint Install, one of the slideshow screens mentioned that Mint could run Wine and VirtualBox (if I spelled that correctly), might help on the security cams front?

caretaker Oct 31st 2019 4:52 pm

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I put Mint on an M2 sata and I don't think much of it; far prefer the good old 16.04 64 bit Ubuntu. Mint seems about the same as 18.04, which didn't take long to be rejected. Everything is just handier on the older system; tools, menus, etc. I see myself erasing it if I can figure out how, and reverting to my original plan of putting 16,04 on the M2 and slapping in a big hdd in the 2.5" bay like I did on my current #1 laptop. My friend says a lot of the things I don't like can be changed around, but I'm not going to faff about for a day trying to make something user friendly. I'll stick the disc in my work bag and say "Yeah, I have Mint.", same way I keep 1 or 2 machines with 18.04 around just in case I have to check something.

BuckinghamshireBoy Oct 31st 2019 11:40 pm

Re: Linux - Installing & using
 

Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 12757137)
I put Mint on an M2 sata and I don't think much of it; far prefer the good old 16.04 64 bit Ubuntu. Mint seems about the same as 18.04, which didn't take long to be rejected. Everything is just handier on the older system; tools, menus, etc. I see myself erasing it if I can figure out how, and reverting to my original plan of putting 16,04 on the M2 and slapping in a big hdd in the 2.5" bay like I did on my current #1 laptop. My friend says a lot of the things I don't like can be changed around, but I'm not going to faff about for a day trying to make something user friendly. I'll stick the disc in my work bag and say "Yeah, I have Mint.", same way I keep 1 or 2 machines with 18.04 around just in case I have to check something.

So is the 16.04 vs 18.04 vs Mint about look and feel (desktop) and that there are no gaps in functionality?

On my Windows machines I've completely gotten rid of the Microsoft idea of how we look at / access stuff, using a free (not sure if it is open source) offering. No idea if there's a Linux port for it, but I'll go looking and post back.

sid nv Nov 1st 2019 2:55 am

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I think I have lost the plot here. All this talk of 8-inch floppies, and look and feel; I have gone into linear regression.
Time to man up and adopt a command-line only interface.

caretaker Nov 3rd 2019 3:52 pm

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Originally Posted by BuckinghamshireBoy (Post 12757368)
So is the 16.04 vs 18.04 vs Mint about look and feel (desktop) and that there are no gaps in functionality?

I find the difference challenging enough that functionality is a faint hope. :lol: I like the desktop to have my menus handy, and the browser menu up top when I just nudge the cursor up there. My IT friend says that Mint is probably designed to be reminiscent of Windows and so appeal to that demographic (he loaded it and said it seems fine to him, but he uses 18.04 almost exclusively). The 18.04 (Bionic Beaver) seems similar to Mint , whereas 16.04 is like the 14.whatever the preceding Ubuntu free source system was that I used before. I might just be a bit of a crank.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...14d0f96be5.jpg

caretaker Nov 3rd 2019 6:09 pm

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I just saw this in the grocery store parking lot; complimented the young man on his style.
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...b6751e1f71.jpg
"Live Free Or Die" lol!

BuckinghamshireBoy Nov 3rd 2019 9:39 pm

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I've become a bit side-tracked, I'm now down to getting to grips with grub before moving on.

I thought I'd trashed the Vaio last Friday (having messed a tiny bit with grub), turns out the the poor old Vaio had overheated and just shut off at the very moment that the splash Mint screen appeared on the nth restart. There has to be a better boot-loader than grub out there FFS!

I have ISOs of Manjaro and MX Linux ready to go, but I need to work out a decent boot strategy.

I found an article on t'Internet dating from goodness knows how long ago giving a 'new look' to multi-booting, and after one skip-read, the logic made sense, if not the technical stuff.

Next step is to trash the Vaio, then recover it back to as it was about 10 minutes ago, both Windows and Mint.


Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 12758456)
"Live Free Or Die" lol!


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...09db4b4c99.jpg

That's a neat plate. What do the authorities charge for vanity plates in CA?

caretaker Nov 3rd 2019 9:45 pm

Re: Linux - Installing & using
 

Originally Posted by BuckinghamshireBoy (Post 12758525)
That's a neat plate. What do the authorities charge for vanity plates in CA?

That isn't a Sask Government Insurance plate, we only require rear plates here so he just bought that somewhere and slapped it on. A real vanity plate used to be $75 additional to your annual fee, now I don't know how much they are.

sid nv Nov 4th 2019 2:29 am

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I find the difference challenging enough that functionality is a faint hope. I like the desktop to have my menus handy, and the browser menu up top when I just nudge the cursor up there. My IT friend says that Mint is probably designed to be reminiscent of Windows and so appeal to that demographic (he loaded it and said it seems fine to him, but he uses 18.04 almost exclusively). The 18.04 (Bionic Beaver) seems similar to Mint , whereas 16.04 is like the 14.whatever the preceding Ubuntu free source system was that I used before. I might just be a bit of a crank.
cat <<'EOF' | sed 's/might just be/am almost certainly/g' | sed 's/I am almost certainly a bit of a crank/I almost certainly have no life, like the rest of the posters on this thread/g'
I find the difference challenging enough that functionality is a faint hope. I like the desktop to have my menus handy, and the browser menu up top when I just nudge the cursor up there. My IT friend says that Mint is probably designed to be reminiscent of Windows and so appeal to that demographic (he loaded it and said it seems fine to him, but he uses 18.04 almost exclusively). The 18.04 (Bionic Beaver) seems similar to Mint , whereas 16.04 is like the 14.whatever the preceding Ubuntu free source system was that I used before. I might just be a bit of a crank.
EOF

BuckinghamshireBoy Nov 4th 2019 2:16 pm

Re: Linux - Installing & using
 

Originally Posted by sid nv (Post 12758592)
cat <<'EOF' | sed 's/might just be/am almost certainly/g' | sed 's/I am almost certainly a bit of a crank/I almost certainly have no life, like the rest of the posters on this thread/g'
I find the difference challenging enough that functionality is a faint hope. I like the desktop to have my menus handy, and the browser menu up top when I just nudge the cursor up there. My IT friend says that Mint is probably designed to be reminiscent of Windows and so appeal to that demographic (he loaded it and said it seems fine to him, but he uses 18.04 almost exclusively). The 18.04 (Bionic Beaver) seems similar to Mint , whereas 16.04 is like the 14.whatever the preceding Ubuntu free source system was that I used before. I might just be a bit of a crank.
EOF

I never really got into vi either. :p

BristolUK Nov 4th 2019 9:34 pm

Re: Linux - Installing & using
 

Originally Posted by BuckinghamshireBoy (Post 12758750)
I never really got into vi either. :p

She used to live door to my mum. Dennis and Vi.

Now I'm wondering what Vi was short for. Violet?


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