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Old Jun 27th 2018, 11:14 am
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Just come across this thread.
Windows Ten update system is an absolute disaster. I'm on a 1.5MBs ADSL connection - giving usually around 1.2MBs - and with multiple failures to install updates in Ten my computer can be esentially unusable for days on end, with no way to stop repeated updating. Then along came #1803.....
So many issues: booting became a 45 min exercise, the compute became glacially slow (10 - 15 mins to react to any input) screen unstable, clicking on one icon opened unrelated things (!), inability to start in safe mode - and later can ONLY boot into safe more, booting gave different sequences each time, tried to restore to before #1803 - but it would not, would not do startup repair, files disappeared and several programs uninstalled, BSOds, even CTRL ALT DEL did nothing, reset Window 10 and on reboot black screen for several minutes then message "Explore the best Windows ever".... , many programs "not responding", files went missing from memory sticks, etc etc.
Just look at Windows feedback on Micro$sot - there are so many people with random and differing problems after 1803 that Windows has become unfit for purpose and useless for any kind of work.
Finally I booted into Mint Live, reformatted the C drive and installed Windows Seven - what a relief.

The first program I installed - after my antivirus and SP1 was Never Ten by Gibson Research (Bless Steve Gibson) which allows Seven to update but blocks the W10 "Up"grade. (My quotes.)
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Old Jun 27th 2018, 12:24 pm
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Anything coming out of Microsoft could be viewed as a disaster... 1809 will be upon us before we know it.
Microsoft's in charge of Brexit? 😂
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Old Aug 15th 2018, 9:19 pm
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Microsoft just unleashed a new update to Win 10. Seems harmless, we stay on 1803, it might take 15-20 minutes to get through.

DO NOT TURN OFF YOUR COMPUTER.

Love 'em.
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Originally Posted by BuckinghamshireBoy View Post
Microsoft just unleashed a new update to Win 10. Seems harmless, we stay on 1803, it might take 15-20 minutes to get through.

DO NOT TURN OFF YOUR COMPUTER.

Love 'em.
Yeh! I saw that special offer pop up yesterday. So far I have dodged this.
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Old Aug 16th 2018, 12:30 am
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Mine recently upgraded to 1803...no glitches at all.
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Microsoft just unleashed a new update to Win 10. Seems harmless, we stay on 1803, it might take 15-20 minutes to get through.

DO NOT TURN OFF YOUR COMPUTER.

Love 'em.
And??
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Old Aug 16th 2018, 12:17 pm
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And??
Nothing more here, as I said it's harmless.

You have any input? We like feedback.

By the way, were you tempted to stick with Mint at all? I'm on the verge of putting it down on disk having done a few live boots.

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Nothing more here, as I said it's harmless.

You have any input? We like feedback.

By the way, were you tempted to stick with Mint at all? I'm on the verge of putting it down on disk having done a few live boots.
In typical W10 update way, 1803 has still not installed on my Spectre laptop, although it has downloaded something like 20 times, many tens of GB of data usage and multiple restarts - and the update page says I am up to date! (Despite still having half a dozen updates "downloading". I don't know ho is doing the coding at Micro$oft nowadays, but I suspect the office cat must be involved....

I would move over to Mint in an instant - I've tried it both "live" and from the HD several times - but for the fact that I have 20 years of important financial data on M$ Money and haven't been able to find any program that runs on Mint and can import the data files. I put my desktop back on Windows 7 last month and might buy a cheapo machine just for W7 / Money, and disable the internet on it to keep it safe.
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In typical W10 update way, 1803 has still not installed on my Spectre laptop, although it has downloaded something like 20 times, many tens of GB of data usage and multiple restarts - and the update page says I am up to date! (Despite still having half a dozen updates "downloading". I don't know ho is doing the coding at Micro$oft nowadays, but I suspect the office cat must be involved....

I would move over to Mint in an instant - I've tried it both "live" and from the HD several times - but for the fact that I have 20 years of important financial data on M$ Money and haven't been able to find any program that runs on Mint and can import the data files. I put my desktop back on Windows 7 last month and might buy a cheapo machine just for W7 / Money, and disable the internet on it to keep it safe.
Thank you for the feedback, much appreciated.

Weird that 1803 won't go for you, but better than having your hard drive wiped I guess.

I don't use Money, just Word and Excel; Word docs are ok, but I've seen a few 'oddities' with the Excel spreadsheets, which is holding me back from taking the big Mint step.

That said, I also run a Win7 machine which is normally off network, so I could park my spreadsheets there whilst I figure out what's what.

But I really like Mint, it looks and feels good, and it's lightning fast compared to MS offerings.
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>>But I really like Mint, it looks and feels good, and it's lightning fast compared to MS offerings.<<

I agree. The one thing I don't like about Linux is the relative difficulty of accessing some things without going down the command line route. At least in Windows you can get into most parts of your system with clicks so it's difficult to wreck the computer by accident. (Mind you, updates can do that without help!)
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>>But I really like Mint, it looks and feels good, and it's lightning fast compared to MS offerings.<<

I agree. The one thing I don't like about Linux is the relative difficulty of accessing some things without going down the command line route. At least in Windows you can get into most parts of your system with clicks so it's difficult to wreck the computer by accident. (Mind you, updates can do that without help!)
(Mind you, updates can do that without help!) <= So, so true!

I'm ok with the command line stuff, I've worked on Solaris and AIX for years, so it comes down to pithy syntax for me.
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(Mind you, updates can do that without help!) <= So, so true!

I'm ok with the command line stuff, I've worked on Solaris and AIX for years, so it comes down to pithy syntax for me.
and Linux does not have a good upgrade system. Wipe and install is not the best approach for me.
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and Linux does not have a good upgrade system. Wipe and install is not the best approach for me.
Understood, but... who schedules the Windows updates, you or Microsoft?

If it ain't broke, don't try and fix it. Keep the personal data off machine, and you're away.
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Understood, but... who schedules the Windows updates, you or Microsoft?

If it ain't broke, don't try and fix it. Keep the personal data off machine, and you're away.
Unfortunately 50% of my computer time is spent accessing personal data, email, banking, bills, etc.
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Unfortunately 50% of my computer time is spent accessing personal data, email, banking, bills, etc.
Same here

I keep all my data on my SAN, and back that up to USB drive on a weekly basis.

The machines remain machines, just a way to access the data.
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