Trouble Brewing in Hungary
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Trouble Brewing in Hungary
Am I the only one who has noticed a slew of anti-Hungary/anti-Orban news articles all over the internet the past few weeks?
Looks like the same usual suspects that started the conflict in Ukraine are trying to foment a revolution in Hungary. Seems like that certain peoples whose names I shall not mention do not like the fact that Hungary is GMO free, Has kicked out the IMF and World Bank and is not going along with central banking by the money lenders.
I applaud Orban and the Hungarian government for trying to retain sovereignty over their own affairs. I do not blame them for not wanting to be over run with the types that have turned some of the Northern EU states into hotbeds of 3rd world blight and cultural Marxism. What is wrong with Hungary retaining its cultural heritage and strong family values?
I see absolutely nothing wrong with things staying pretty much the same in Hungary. I am not saying I support everything that Orban/Fidesz do I am saying Hungary should be allowed to retain its heritage and values and not be ruled by a bunch of un-elected bureaucrats and media types in Brussels and by globalist NWO bankers.
Am I that wrong to feel the way I do?
Looks like the same usual suspects that started the conflict in Ukraine are trying to foment a revolution in Hungary. Seems like that certain peoples whose names I shall not mention do not like the fact that Hungary is GMO free, Has kicked out the IMF and World Bank and is not going along with central banking by the money lenders.
I applaud Orban and the Hungarian government for trying to retain sovereignty over their own affairs. I do not blame them for not wanting to be over run with the types that have turned some of the Northern EU states into hotbeds of 3rd world blight and cultural Marxism. What is wrong with Hungary retaining its cultural heritage and strong family values?
I see absolutely nothing wrong with things staying pretty much the same in Hungary. I am not saying I support everything that Orban/Fidesz do I am saying Hungary should be allowed to retain its heritage and values and not be ruled by a bunch of un-elected bureaucrats and media types in Brussels and by globalist NWO bankers.
Am I that wrong to feel the way I do?
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Interesting YouTube video on why Hungary is being smeared by the media.
Hungary is a bright and shinning star in the EU zone and the EU and US will not be happy unless they can get Hungary broke and saddled with unpayable debts. The powers that be want the entire globe enslaved to a world wide central bank and every one so indebted they cannot resist their plans.
Hungary is a bright and shinning star in the EU zone and the EU and US will not be happy unless they can get Hungary broke and saddled with unpayable debts. The powers that be want the entire globe enslaved to a world wide central bank and every one so indebted they cannot resist their plans.
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And another. Do you suppose we are seeing the beginning of the next Ukraine? Does anyone even care that this could lead to tension with our Host here in Hungary? There is no doubt in my mind that the same forces that fomented the strife in Ukraine are doing the same thing over again.
Protest in Hungary demands tax chief's resignation
Protest in Hungary demands tax chief's resignation
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And another. Do you suppose we are seeing the beginning of the next Ukraine? Does anyone even care that this could lead to tension with our Host here in Hungary? There is no doubt in my mind that the same forces that fomented the strife in Ukraine are doing the same thing over again.
Protest in Hungary demands tax chief's resignation
Protest in Hungary demands tax chief's resignation
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No one is saying that Hungary is perfect as is...but what place is? Here is another link to another negative story about Hungary. I think Hungary is a gem as it is and should be left alone. The NWO types are hellbent upon turning Hungary into the next Ukraine. That would be a terrible tragedy for all the people of Hungary and for that matter everyone.
EU allies alarmed at Hungary's Kremlin drift
http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin...on-in-hungary/
EU allies alarmed at Hungary's Kremlin drift
http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin...on-in-hungary/
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Monday another article. The EU and USA are behind this rash of articles and rable rousing. I smell another Ukraine civil war in the offing. The Hungarian people are being played just like the people of the Ukraine. It would be a tragedy to destroy the jewel that is Hungary for the appeasement of the globalist bankers and the usual trouble makers.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30086497
http://www.ibtimes.com/hungary-publi...-orban-1725084
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30086497
http://www.ibtimes.com/hungary-publi...-orban-1725084
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Monday another article. The EU and USA are behind this rash of articles and rable rousing. I smell another Ukraine civil war in the offing. The Hungarian people are being played just like the people of the Ukraine. It would be a tragedy to destroy the jewel that is Hungary for the appeasement of the globalist bankers and the usual trouble makers.
BBC News - Thousands attend Hungary 'public outrage day' protest
Hungary Public Outrage Day: 10,000 Hungarians Protest Against Corruption, Orban Government
BBC News - Thousands attend Hungary 'public outrage day' protest
Hungary Public Outrage Day: 10,000 Hungarians Protest Against Corruption, Orban Government
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Re: Trouble Brewing in Hungary
Erm, I think everyone should be a bit concerned about any government becoming too intimate with the Kremlin, particularly an EU member, and particularly if you live in that country.
Russia's history, behaviour and overall character is rather alarming. Be careful what you wish for.
Russia's history, behaviour and overall character is rather alarming. Be careful what you wish for.
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Erm, I think everyone should be a bit concerned about any government becoming too intimate with the Kremlin, particularly an EU member, and particularly if you live in that country.
Russia's history, behaviour and overall character is rather alarming. Be careful what you wish for.
Russia's history, behaviour and overall character is rather alarming. Be careful what you wish for.
I personally think Hungary should avoid all entanglements with the Kremlin AND the EU/USA. We need a planet full of independent nation states not a one world government or 2 or 3 mega states. Each nation should be able to keep its cultural heritage and identity.
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I personally think Hungary should avoid all entanglements with the Kremlin AND the EU/USA. We need a planet full of independent nation states not a one world government or 2 or 3 mega states. Each nation should be able to keep its cultural heritage and identity.
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And today another couple smear stories.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/hungary...9715--sow.html
http://www.ibtimes.com/hungary-next-...europe-1725744
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/hungary...9715--sow.html
http://www.ibtimes.com/hungary-next-...europe-1725744
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Another Interesting read about the situation
Is Hungary The Next Ukraine? Protests Show Country Ripe For Conflict Between Russia And Europe – Wake Up From Your Slumber !
Is Hungary The Next Ukraine? Protests Show Country Ripe For Conflict Between Russia And Europe – Wake Up From Your Slumber !
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That article is rather selectively economic with the facts. It says that a poll suggests that 72% of Hungarians say they were better off under communist rule. Probably correct, consider - a job for life, provided by the state (for a time it was illegal to be without work), pension age at 50 or 55, affordable housing, subsidised holidays and so on. The trouble was that it was totally unsustainable - but I am sure that many (72%?) felt better off, but ask those same 72% if they want Russia back the answer would be No. To compare the Ukraine with Hungary is absurd,
To quote the article "Hungary is part of the European Union, but it hasn’t yet adopted the euro" -Smart move that, IMO, look at the grief with the euro, by the way the UK didn't join the euro either!! Personally I am in favour of the Euro, just that it was a good idea ruined by the politicians allowing countries to join before the time was right.
Yes Hungary signed up for the proposed new gas pipeline, to avoid the political problems of the gas supply coming through the Ukraine. Just a moment - that pipeline also goes through Georgia, Turkey, Bulgaria, and Romania before it gets to Hungary and Oh in Turkey there is a branch off that feeds all of the former Yugoslavia countries and from that a branch that services Greece and Italy. Hay! they forgot to mention that lot!!
By the way there is also a proposed pipeline from Russia through Belarus and Poland to Germany and another from Russia through Germany and Holland to the UK. And another from Russia through Ukraine, Slovakia and Austria to Germany, Oh dear those three weren't mentioned either.
America refused entrance to the head of the tax office due to corruption allegations. My understanding from the Hungarian news is that yes she was refused entrance but no supporting evidence has been given despite the Hungarian Government asking for such evidence, and Orban is on record as saying if / when evidence is offered it will be investigated and criminal charges brought as appropriate. So far silence from USA!!
I hope Hungary continues to manage its own affairs without interference from the IMF, the Banking industry and global corporations. So far Orban has managed to tell these entities where to get off, which of course is why he is unpopular (with them).
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To quote the article "Hungary is part of the European Union, but it hasn’t yet adopted the euro" -Smart move that, IMO, look at the grief with the euro, by the way the UK didn't join the euro either!! Personally I am in favour of the Euro, just that it was a good idea ruined by the politicians allowing countries to join before the time was right.
Yes Hungary signed up for the proposed new gas pipeline, to avoid the political problems of the gas supply coming through the Ukraine. Just a moment - that pipeline also goes through Georgia, Turkey, Bulgaria, and Romania before it gets to Hungary and Oh in Turkey there is a branch off that feeds all of the former Yugoslavia countries and from that a branch that services Greece and Italy. Hay! they forgot to mention that lot!!
By the way there is also a proposed pipeline from Russia through Belarus and Poland to Germany and another from Russia through Germany and Holland to the UK. And another from Russia through Ukraine, Slovakia and Austria to Germany, Oh dear those three weren't mentioned either.
America refused entrance to the head of the tax office due to corruption allegations. My understanding from the Hungarian news is that yes she was refused entrance but no supporting evidence has been given despite the Hungarian Government asking for such evidence, and Orban is on record as saying if / when evidence is offered it will be investigated and criminal charges brought as appropriate. So far silence from USA!!
I hope Hungary continues to manage its own affairs without interference from the IMF, the Banking industry and global corporations. So far Orban has managed to tell these entities where to get off, which of course is why he is unpopular (with them).
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