Visiting Uk and Italy vaccines not recognized
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Visiting Uk and Italy vaccines not recognized
Just popped over for a few days to see friends. The day before my return I get a message from test and trace. Someone on my plane was positive for covid. Since I was vaccinated in Italy I now have to isolate here for 10 days . Can’t believe it. I was allowed in Uk, my vaccinations were recognized but now they aren’t! Why did s this not mentioned anywhere when booking flights or filling in Uk locator form?
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I get that but why cancel testing for passengers flying to Uk, allow me to enter on my vaccination status then say they don’t recognize them when someone is positive on the plane. People vaccinated in Uk don’t have to isolate . No logic
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I visited couple weeks ago and had to test within 48hrs of arrival. Has this requirement been dropped? Can't you get 'test to release' (from quarantine)? If you didn't get 48hr test, you can still transmit even if vaccinated. When I filled in UK passenger locator form I had to supply reference number for the 48 hr test I had booked.
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You just have to pick any official UK gov web page on the subject (like this one) to realise how difficult it is to know what you need. First thing you come up against on a lot of them it "click here for England, here for Scotland" etc.... Things get worse the longer it goes on as they add to the rules, change them at will and fail to update some of them. So if we don't have to travel we don't...
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[QUOTE=campos;13076302]I visited couple weeks ago and had to test within 48hrs of arrival. Has this requirement been dropped? Can't you get 'test to release' (from quarantine)? If you didn't get 48hr test, you can still transmit even if vaccinated. When I filled in UK passenger locator form I had to supply reference number for the 48 hr test
you still need to test after 48 hrs which I did and was negative. They won’t let me test to release just said I have to stay 10 days
you still need to test after 48 hrs which I did and was negative. They won’t let me test to release just said I have to stay 10 days
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Poor Brits will have to wear their masks again. Italy has being doing pretty well up to now with Covid. We have always had to wear masks in indoor areas and respect distancing rules and it seems to have paid off.
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Having read what's been said above, I've been reading the updated rules for PLFs from today. It now says everyone has to quarantine for ten days... there's no suggestion that people are treated differently because of where they were vaccinated.I realise that is not much help to the OP but at least it looks like any unfairness in respect of where people were vaccinated has been removed
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I think you'll find that the scientific establishment is pretty much unanimous that the vaccinations reduce significantly (but don't eliminate) the risk of catching Covid, and that they reduce significantly the severity of the infection. No more, no less.
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Agreed. I was trying to work out how to answer. :-)
I think that people need to try to understand that any preventative measure (masks, social distancing, vaccination, etc) are only about reducing risk... none' of them have ever been about 100% removal of risk. Vaccines are not 100% effective, but they were reducing the risk of transmission. Because we don't know enough about this new omicron variant we can't calculate the risk involved, so new restrictions are being brought in until we know. In addition one could argue that political factors are shaping the changes to regulations. It's too early to say if the vaccines are less effective.
But I wasn't really saying anything about that.
In this case the original poster said that the UK gov were treating people differently based on where they were vaccinated. This doesn't seem to make sense, because the vaccines don't work differently based on geography. And so it seems unfair. All I was saying is that now, any possible unfairness (in this respect) no longer exists because everyone has to quarantine if they are in close contact with someone who tests positive.
I think that people need to try to understand that any preventative measure (masks, social distancing, vaccination, etc) are only about reducing risk... none' of them have ever been about 100% removal of risk. Vaccines are not 100% effective, but they were reducing the risk of transmission. Because we don't know enough about this new omicron variant we can't calculate the risk involved, so new restrictions are being brought in until we know. In addition one could argue that political factors are shaping the changes to regulations. It's too early to say if the vaccines are less effective.
But I wasn't really saying anything about that.
In this case the original poster said that the UK gov were treating people differently based on where they were vaccinated. This doesn't seem to make sense, because the vaccines don't work differently based on geography. And so it seems unfair. All I was saying is that now, any possible unfairness (in this respect) no longer exists because everyone has to quarantine if they are in close contact with someone who tests positive.
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Re: Visiting Uk and Italy vaccines not recognized
Having read what's been said above, I've been reading the updated rules for PLFs from today. It now says everyone has to quarantine for ten days... there's no suggestion that people are treated differently because of where they were vaccinated.I realise that is not much help to the OP but at least it looks like any unfairness in respect of where people were vaccinated has been removed