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campos Jan 11th 2022 8:20 pm

TV in italy
 
I'm thinking of getting a tv, first in a number of years.
What international channels will I be able to get on freeview? Will I need any extra boxes etc to be able to get English language services such as BBC World News, France 24, NHK World etc?

modicasa Jan 12th 2022 5:48 am

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Heres a list.: https://www.tvdigitaldivide.it/lista...ale-terrestre/

Rose68 Jan 12th 2022 6:55 am

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I've always wanted to be able to watch BBC/ITV online streaming, but it seems so complicated to DO, you need a VPN?, and I think it isn't free.
Any suggestions?

campos Jan 12th 2022 8:02 am

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The list seems to be just Italian language channels then.
I have no interest in watching Italian TV for anything - news, sport, whatever. . I am only interested in English language channels.
Can someone advise what I would need to get the channels mentioned above? Thanks.

(Rose68 - I sometimes watch BBC UK channels on iplayer (on my PC) with a free vpn - Windscribe, using one of the London location options, , which gives 10GB free per month. It's worked fine for me. I don't know about ITV . If you wanted to use a vpn via TV I'm not sure. Maybe stream via PC... ? Otherwise I can usually find UK domestic programmes on the torrents, for download.)

Rose68 Jan 12th 2022 9:02 am

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Thanks for your suggestions.

modicasa Jan 13th 2022 5:49 am

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The list includes BBC World NEws. ALso bear in mind that with digital, the channels can now broadcast in original language - just choose the option on your telecomando. If you want to watch Eastenders then you will need a smart tv and vpn and subscribe to a service like Transponder.

Rose68 Jan 13th 2022 6:46 am

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Eastenders was one of my favorite soaps. However, this was way back in the early 90s.
I will try for this VPN, but is it only a pagamento?

campos Jan 13th 2022 8:09 am

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Originally Posted by modicasa (Post 13087773)
The list includes BBC World NEws. ALso bear in mind that with digital, the channels can now broadcast in original language - just choose the option on your telecomando. If you want to watch Eastenders then you will need a smart tv and vpn and subscribe to a service like Transponder.

I see Sky Atlantic in the list (ch 456) - which occasionally has something worthwhile, series and so on - and France 24 (ch 135 and 143) but I can't see the wood for the trees re. BBC World News.

Geordieborn Jan 13th 2022 9:45 am

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VPN is just a piece of software to make the like of BBC connections look like they are in the UK. The folks selling it spend a lot of time getting around BBC attempts to stop this access by chaging servers/IP addresses. I never looked into why or how, but when using our UK mobile contract in Italy to "hot spot" to give our notebook internet we got access on the PC to the BBC tennis coverage. I suspect because the connection via the mobile looked like it was in the UK. Not that I would suggest this is viable for general access.

campos Jan 13th 2022 10:04 am

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I also use my mobile as a hotspot. I don't think it matters where your mobile contract/connection is. As long as you connect to a site (iplayer for e.g.) via the VPN set to a UK server location, it will recognise you as being in that country.
If you Google ,say , Amazon and connect to it while your VPN is using a Norway or Netherlands server location, you'll get the their Amazon (or whatever) site. At least I do with Windscribe free version.

Geordieborn Jan 13th 2022 10:49 am

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Originally Posted by campos (Post 13087809)
I also use my mobile as a hotspot. I don't think it matters where your mobile contract/connection is. As long as you connect to a site (iplayer for e.g.) via the VPN set to a UK server location, it will recognise you as being in that country.
If you Google ,say , Amazon and connect to it while your VPN is using a Norway or Netherlands server location, you'll get the their Amazon (or whatever) site. At least I do with Windscribe free version.

Thing is I had no VPN on the PC... Using my normal access via my WIND SIM I could not access the BBC, switch to the mobile (UK Giffgaff sim) no problem.

campos Jan 13th 2022 10:53 am

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Originally Posted by Geordieborn (Post 13087815)
Thing is I had no VPN on the PC... Using my normal access via my WIND SIM I could not access the BBC, switch to the mobile (UK Giffgaff sim) no problem.

ok gotcha.
I suppose you're up to speed on UK roaming changes for all but two major operators in these coming months. Not sure if giffgaff is a major player though!:lol:

Geordieborn Jan 13th 2022 12:08 pm

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Originally Posted by campos (Post 13087816)
ok gotcha.
I suppose you're up to speed on UK roaming changes for all but two major operators in these coming months. Not sure if giffgaff is a major player though!:lol:

Yeah, GiffGaff is o2 is disguise, who are Telefonica in disguise Just announced recently they will not be reintroducing roaming charges :lol:

Rose68 Jan 13th 2022 12:32 pm

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All sounds so complicated. I'll try for the VPN, but I'll probably just end up consulting my BBC news app, and Telegraph newsletters,at least for news updates.

Lugsbug Jan 13th 2022 9:01 pm

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Hi Rose! I use a VPN via NordVPN - they had a good three year deal. I had never used one before so was a bit apprehensive but it's really simple to use - once installed you can select the country you want to connect to and away you go. I've been watching the BBC iplayer this evening and it was a good connection.

Regarding English language programmes on the TV, I leave this to OH but he finds plenty of things on Iris, Top Crime, Mediaset 20 etc

SanNico Jan 14th 2022 7:37 am

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Originally Posted by Lugsbug (Post 13087935)
Hi Rose! I use a VPN via NordVPN - they had a good three year deal. I had never used one before so was a bit apprehensive but it's really simple to use - once installed you can select the country you want to connect to and away you go. I've been watching the BBC iplayer this evening and it was a good connection.

Regarding English language programmes on the TV, I leave this to OH but he finds plenty of things on Iris, Top Crime, Mediaset 20 etc

I second that, NordVPN is the best I've tried. The special offer seems never ending as well. It's the only one I've used which is reliable for BBC and ITV in the UK. I also use it for HBO flicking between the Spanish and US sites. My only problem is I've never figured out how to put it directly on the TV.
My son uses a FireStick. Somehow he uses NordVPN on it as well but apparently it's no good for iPlayer, which could be user error.

For the OP, if you've gone a few years without a TV, try your options on a laptop before splashing out. You're not missing much.

Plan B Jan 14th 2022 7:51 am

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Hi. It is possible to access the BBC channels (including regional stations), ITV and Channel 4 via satellite. You would need to fit a satellite dish on your roof and have a decoder by the TV. Once you have paid for those you would then have real-time streaming of those UK channels without any subscription. (You would also have access to hundreds of other channels – French, German, Austrian, Turkish, Middle East etc.)
This method means a one-time outlay (EUR 1,000 maybe) and nothing after that.

The VPN route would be up and running almost immediately with no up-front cost but probably an on-going subscription. However, the VPN solution should enable access to more UK channels, such as Film 4, ITV2, ITV3 and Channel 5.

SanNico Jan 14th 2022 9:00 am

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Are you sure about the satellite option? I used to get BBC until about 2012 when they changed the Astra beam. I was down in Puglia and I could only get a handful of channels after the change, pointing to 28.2 and with Astra 19.2 I could only get BBC News plus hundreds of other European channels. I managed to get BBC in Germany but it was very patchy.

There was a guy down there who had something similar to Goonhilly Earth Station in his garden and even he couldn't get BBC One. I'm exaggerating but it was about 2.4m if I recall correctly.

Accetturese Jan 14th 2022 10:22 am

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There is a website called Transponder.tv that has a wide selection of uk channels available to watch live. It used to be free to use if you did not need to record shows, not sure about that anymore. I pay about 7 quid a month - which allows me to store 10 hours worth of recorded programmes.
I also use password protection software, called Dashlane. This costs me about 25 quid a year for the family plan, and comes with a VPN as part of the package. It is a bit too slow to stream BBC, but I just use the iplayer download function and watch them that way. It works fine with the other catchup sites.

campos Jan 14th 2022 10:49 am

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Originally Posted by SanNico (Post 13087986)
I second that, NordVPN is the best I've tried. The special offer seems never ending as well. It's the only one I've used which is reliable for BBC and ITV in the UK. I also use it for HBO flicking between the Spanish and US sites. My only problem is I've never figured out how to put it directly on the TV.
My son uses a FireStick. Somehow he uses NordVPN on it as well but apparently it's no good for iPlayer, which could be user error.

For the OP, if you've gone a few years without a TV, try your options on a laptop before splashing out. You're not missing much.

moving around a lot lately I've watched several international English language channels, that I like for different programmes, such as Bbc world news, france 24 in Eng and French, NHK World out of Japan, DW in English... UK domestic channels have little interest nowadays for me (an occasional series maybe) but are quite easy to view with a vpn on my laptop ; I was just wondering what is available on terrestrial digital here these days: if very little i might have to figure out how to connect my laptop stream to a new tv.
last time i had a tv i remember watching bbc wn on terrestrial (maybe around 2012...) then i got rid of tv so lost track.
id say my main reason (70%) for getting a high res tv is watching films, which i download. Yes, there are some in original language on iris or whatever too. English channels would be nice, but secondary (30%).

Accetturese Jan 14th 2022 11:43 am

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Our digital decoder box has an option which allows us to watch a programme in the original language, if that is broadcast alongside the dubbed version. We were able to get quite a lot of english language tv shows and films via this method.
Our local tv and satellite installer set us up with the box and card, and left it with us for a while to make sure we were happy before we paid him.

campos Jan 14th 2022 11:51 am

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A friend with just digital terrestrial tells me that he has Sky Atlantic (in above linked list) in his listed channels but it's scrambled, so maybe he needs some extra box or to pay to unscramble it...

Geordieborn Jan 14th 2022 1:28 pm

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Originally Posted by campos (Post 13088013)
moving around a lot lately I've watched several international English language channels, that I like for different programmes, such as Bbc world news, france 24 in Eng and French, NHK World out of Japan, DW in English... UK domestic channels have little interest nowadays for me (an occasional series maybe) but are quite easy to view with a vpn on my laptop ; I was just wondering what is available on terrestrial digital here these days: if very little i might have to figure out how to connect my laptop stream to a new tv.
last time i had a tv i remember watching bbc wn on terrestrial (maybe around 2012...) then i got rid of tv so lost track.
id say my main reason (70%) for getting a high res tv is watching films, which i download. Yes, there are some in original language on iris or whatever too. English channels would be nice, but secondary (30%).

If the new tv is a smart tv load the vpn app and stream direct?

Rose68 Jan 14th 2022 3:05 pm

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Originally Posted by Plan B (Post 13087989)
Hi. It is possible to access the BBC channels (including regional stations), ITV and Channel 4 via satellite. You would need to fit a satellite dish on your roof and have a decoder by the TV. Once you have paid for those you would then have real-time streaming of those UK channels without any subscription. (You would also have access to hundreds of other channels – French, German, Austrian, Turkish, Middle East etc.)
This method means a one-time outlay (EUR 1,000 maybe) and nothing after that.

The VPN route would be up and running almost immediately with no up-front cost but probably an on-going subscription. However, the VPN solution should enable access to more UK channels, such as Film 4, ITV2, ITV3 and Channel 5.


We have a satellite dish, but at the moment it isnt being used, because a couple of yrs ago we canceled our SKY contract, due to the fact that we were just wasting money (the costs were really high) as we never hardly watched anything on Sky. We got into the habit of downloading films or watching them in streaming, there's much more choice doing this, and you can watch what you want, whenever you want. Since Netflix, Amazon prime etc, have come about, I don't think Sky is doing too well!
Even with this satellite dish (and using a different decoder), I only managed to see BBC world news and Sky news, but could never get
Bbc1, 2,etc.
Just like others of you have said, I think a VPN is going to be necessary for me.

campos Jan 14th 2022 5:55 pm

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Originally Posted by Geordieborn (Post 13088033)
If the new tv is a smart tv load the vpn app and stream direct?

Sounds like a plan. Do you mean load the vpn software on the smart tv?

Geordieborn Jan 14th 2022 8:53 pm

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Originally Posted by campos (Post 13088110)
Sounds like a plan. Do you mean load the vpn software on the smart tv?

Not really checked it out, but when a few here mentioned NordVpn I looked it up and indication are it has an app for both Android and IOS. Lots of Smart TVs are running Android so the app should load, failing that it looks like you can put it on a firestick and/or Chromecast. The app will handle the country setting and server connection. Alternative seem to be out there (I've no need for a VPN) to run the VPN from a router which would seem to be even better if you have a router to handle it.

campos Jan 15th 2022 7:54 am

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Originally Posted by Geordieborn (Post 13088148)
Not really checked it out, but when a few here mentioned NordVpn I looked it up and indication are it has an app for both Android and IOS. Lots of Smart TVs are running Android so the app should load, failing that it looks like you can put it on a firestick and/or Chromecast. The app will handle the country setting and server connection. Alternative seem to be out there (I've no need for a VPN) to run the VPN from a router which would seem to be even better if you have a router to handle it.

Thanks for the info.
I don't have a fixed-line router, so to speak. I just use my Italian mobile as a hotspot. I'll certainly look into getting the most well-equiped tv software-wise, within my budget

C.2s Jan 15th 2022 10:20 am

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Another alternative (to live streaming) is YouTube. You'll find lots of UK tv on it. We watch BBC and Channel 4 stuff. For example the latest series of Would I Lie to You, Grand Designs, etc. And you don't need a VPN. It's good as long as you don't mind that it's not live

Although tbh we also pay for Netflix and Sky (the Italian versions) and as others have said it's really easy to change the language into English. And I use Sky for news (BBC, Sky UK, France 24, Al Jazeera, Euronews, NHK, CNN and other American channels).

​​​​​​All of the above offer the possibility of improving your Italian also through watching with subtitles etc

Plan B Jan 16th 2022 9:34 am

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Originally Posted by SanNico (Post 13087997)
Are you sure about the satellite option? I used to get BBC until about 2012 when they changed the Astra beam. I was down in Puglia and I could only get a handful of channels after the change, pointing to 28.2 and with Astra 19.2 I could only get BBC News plus hundreds of other European channels. I managed to get BBC in Germany but it was very patchy.

There was a guy down there who had something similar to Goonhilly Earth Station in his garden and even he couldn't get BBC One. I'm exaggerating but it was about 2.4m if I recall correctly.

Yes, I'm sure the satellite option works: using a standard dish of about 1 metre diameter. Those UK channels are not fully scrambled so an experienced aerial provider/installer should be able to source a suitable decoder and make the firmware adjustment to enable viewing them.


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