Running car in Italy on UK licence?
#17
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Re: Running car in Italy on UK licence?
Why is it in the interests of the Italian govt, or Europe to care about UK licences. The Europeans know who can legally drive in ITaly, if Johnny Brit hasnt got the right piece of paper its his fault not Italy's.
For the rest, why exactly? So Italy can import micrewaved findus dinners?
For the rest, why exactly? So Italy can import micrewaved findus dinners?
#18
Re: Running car in Italy on UK licence?
Why is it in the interests of the Italian govt, or Europe to care about UK licences. The Europeans know who can legally drive in ITaly, if Johnny Brit hasnt got the right piece of paper its his fault not Italy's.
For the rest, why exactly? So Italy can import micrewaved findus dinners?
For the rest, why exactly? So Italy can import micrewaved findus dinners?
Last edited by BritInParis; Oct 18th 2017 at 6:00 am.
#19
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Re: Running car in Italy on UK licence?
I was advised that a UK driving license could be converted but that it was not necessary to do so . It was suggested that I keep my UK one until Brexit became clearer because if I converted it then i'd have an Iatlian licesne andmight nit then be able to riconvert ...
#20
Re: Running car in Italy on UK licence?
Motorizzazione say that the licence must be exchanged within 2 years of taking residence in Italy.
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#21
Re: Running car in Italy on UK licence?
Motorizzazione say that the licence must be exchanged within 2 years of taking residence in Italy.
Conversione patente estera | mit
Conversione patente estera | mit
#22
Re: Running car in Italy on UK licence?
My current UK licence is valid until december 2026 and while the UK is considered a member of the EU it is valid in Italy . I rarely drive in the Uk my main worry would be that post Brexit I would not be able to drive here so my current plan is to wait until the final months and if necessary nip in and do the exchange as late as possible !
I am not sure I would wait until the final months, it took 8 months to exchange my licence.
Admittedly they gave me a certificate that allowed me to drive in Italy, but it wasn’t acceptable to Hertz etc when I needed to hire a car in the UK
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Re: Running car in Italy on UK licence?
There is a bit of a grey area about your UK license being required to have a valid address on which, if you're resident in Italy, it can't.
We exchanged ours within about 9 months of moving here, partially because one was close to expiring. It wasn't exactly a smooth process but didn't take that long. The biggest faff was having to get a medical test and, as we both wear glasses, getting a copy of our prescription in an acceptable format. Lots of photos & marche da bollo required too, obviously.
We exchanged ours within about 9 months of moving here, partially because one was close to expiring. It wasn't exactly a smooth process but didn't take that long. The biggest faff was having to get a medical test and, as we both wear glasses, getting a copy of our prescription in an acceptable format. Lots of photos & marche da bollo required too, obviously.
#24
Re: Running car in Italy on UK licence?
If the DVLA writes to you then somebody in the UK has to forward the letter. If you loose your licence card DVLA are not going to send a replacement to Italy. Then it gets difficult.
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Re: Running car in Italy on UK licence?
The GOV.UK site seems quite clear on it! Must have your current UK address and be resident there.... From what I've read however, they could make a fortune on the $
£1000 pound fines if they bothered to enforce it.
£1000 pound fines if they bothered to enforce it.
#26
Re: Running car in Italy on UK licence?
The GOV.UK site seems quite clear on it! Must have your current UK address and be resident there.... From what I've read however, they could make a fortune on the $
£1000 pound fines if they bothered to enforce it.
£1000 pound fines if they bothered to enforce it.
I think the problem starts if there is a serious car accident, regardless of fault.
Then the insurance companies will do everything not to pay out and the police will look more closely at when you should have changed a driving licence
#27
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Re: Running car in Italy on UK licence?
What's nice about converting your UK licence into an Italian one is when you lose points you get a personalised statement from Rome letting you know your updated situation.
Last edited by Donna Noble; Nov 1st 2017 at 8:32 pm.
#28
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Re: Running car in Italy on UK licence?
Fortunately I never lost any points in the 9 years I drove here on a UK licence (nor in the previous 30 years in the UK)
Unfortunately I have done so since - and can confierm the nice personalised letter. Which raises another point. When I lost my points, it was two weeks less than 2 years on the new licence - and they duly deducted double points because I was a 'neopatentato'. My contact at ACI says that is wrong, but I didn't contest it because I have better things to do with my life and I'm unlikely to have any problem with points (tocca ferro).
However, IF (and it is a big if) it is correct, then presumably all the other regulations for 'neopatentato' would logically apply, e.g. reduced speed limits for the first 3 years, etc. Does anyone else have experience of this?
ETA: I've just had a look at site PATENTE.it, and they say that all the 'neopatentato' rules apply in the case of a conversion of a foreign licence. OMG, as they say. Unfortunately the example they give is for a non-Eu driver, but they do clearly say 'stranieri' on the site. Fortunately my 3 years expired just - 3 days ago so I don't care.
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#29
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Re: Running car in Italy on UK licence?
Weird that you're considered a "neopatente" when you convert but this is true.
In fact, the (OH) transgressor (like you thought it was me! ) had detailed on his statement that after the first couple of years or so (ie after he was no longer a "neopatente", despite the fact he'd been driving since GKW), he had been awarded "bonus" points for good behaviour. So he actually had a total of 28 points credited on his licence.
Then he went and lost a bunch of them by not driving in the correct manner.
In fact, the (OH) transgressor (like you thought it was me! ) had detailed on his statement that after the first couple of years or so (ie after he was no longer a "neopatente", despite the fact he'd been driving since GKW), he had been awarded "bonus" points for good behaviour. So he actually had a total of 28 points credited on his licence.
Then he went and lost a bunch of them by not driving in the correct manner.
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Re: Running car in Italy on UK licence?
I'm sure I asked about this when I insured my Italian car for the first time because there was a question asking "have you had a full license issued in Italy for more than 3 years" or something similar. I hadn't, having only converted mine about 6 months previously. However, IIRC, I was told that my converted license was considered to have been issued when the UK one was.
The idea that you can get bonus points for good behaviour seems like a wonderfully Italian idea!
The idea that you can get bonus points for good behaviour seems like a wonderfully Italian idea!