philat98

Yes it really applies to riscaldamento condominiale. Good thing summer is arriving with Italy reducing Russian gas imports.

Lorna at Vicenza

How long are they staying for? It's not the questura anyway. I'm kind of curious too and tempted to ring up my local Carabinieri and ask them if I have to fill out visitor forms but, I don't want to put myself in the limelight and nobody ever gave a shit before despite knowing full well who I am and who my kids are in this tinpot village. My daughter is mates with the Carb chief's son. The chief drank tea at my kitchen table when the bullies sent Alex to hospital and last year the Polizia Locale knocked on my front door looking for Alex so they know us too. They were very quick to reassure me he wasn't in any trouble but they needed him as a witness and I had to go to the station with him as he wasn't 18 yet. He'd been witness to some lads knocking about a bus conductor. The police set out a bunch of photographs from the bus CCTV to see which rotten bastards Alex could identify. Me and my big gob couldn't help blurting out: "Jesus Christ Alex! It's a good job you're not in trouble because you're the only blonde lad on the bus. You stick out a mile!" The policeman laughed and said, "mum's right. Listen to mum and stay out of trouble. We know you tried to get some of the lads to calm down because the bus driver has already seen these photos and told us that you behaved well and weren't any part of the trouble."

37100

It applies to everyone though. Not just condo's. Even in condo's apartments often have individual heating and in blocks all apartments should now all have individual valves to regulate the temperature. It's just easier for individuals to 'evade' the rules. Doesn't matter though because no one ever checks.
We have teleriscaldamento. One central boiler x zone. No limit on the number of hours. The company supplies heating 24 hrs a day. Our condo had to battle to get it turned off at night because it's not in the company's interest as they have to run the system 24/7. They can't just turn it off. However, forking out for unwanted heating is wrong on so many levels.

philat98

These condos are a nightmare. When repairs are needed most people refuse to pay. They dont even pay the management fee if they can get away with. I imagine it is the same with the heating bill.

pugliese

sounds like you have more than your fare share of thugs there! Poor you !

Solarcower

Sorry, didn't update this. Hope it's OK to do so so long afterwards.
I completed the same form that Lorna linked on page one. Sent it from my PEC. Zero response at all. I thought it best to do it as my parents have health problems and I didn't want there to be any comeback in they had to go to hospital or whatever. If anyone does choose to do it, sending it from the PEC was much easier than the Post Office malarkey they wanted.

Lorna at Vicenza

Well, you did the right thing and although you didn't get any reply to your email, nobody came knocking on your door either. My sister arrives on Monday but she's coming on her Irish passport. I wouldn't have remembered this rule even if she were travelling on her British one. Hope your parents enjoyed themselves.

jonwel

Just to fill in on the law about declaring visitors. This dates from March 1978 when Aldo Moro was kidnapped by the Red Brigades (and subsequently murdered). The government introduced an Anti-Terrorism Law, the idea being that terrorists could only stay with their friends because anyone else would report their presence... and the police knew where their friends lived! I don't think this achieved very much and after a short while no one cared about it any more, least of all the police. The result is that if you have a long-term sharing situation you should report the presence of the person to the Ufficio Alloggi of the Questura or of your local police station, because if that person then commits an offence (e.g. terrorism, drugs) you can get into big trouble for harbouring a criminal. This is particularly so if the person is a foreigner.
On the other hand, if you're just putting up friends or relatives on holiday the police won't want to know - you'll get waved away as someone said earlier.

Hospitalisation: I don't think anyone will say anything about patients not having been declared - a far more important question is whether they're covered for medical treatrment.

philat98

Was that when the police started to stop cars at random?

jonwel

Sorry, only just seen your question! I don't really know the answer but I think it's likely to be older than the Anti-Terrorism law.