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Andybcfc Oct 21st 2024 1:03 am

Relocating to Sicily
 
Hi everyone

I have just joined this forum to try to get answers to questions about moving to Italy.
I have a lot of things I would like to understand so will ask them one question at a time.
I have done some Google research but can't find all the answers I require.

I have a UK passport and am considering moving to Sicily.
I am retired and currently living in Lithuania with my Wife Dalia.
She is a Lithuanian citizen.
Am I correct in understanding that I am able to live in another EU country as a spouse of an EU citizen and what are the criteria for this?

Thanks
Andy

Geordieborn Oct 21st 2024 9:44 am

Re: Relocating to Sicily
 
Yes, as an EU member state she can move there and become resident. Her spouse qualifies, as her spouse as for residency.

modicasa Oct 22nd 2024 4:53 pm

Re: Relocating to Sicily
 
Yes you would qualify, but will still need a permesso di soggiorno - whilst your wife will not.

EU.flag Oct 22nd 2024 9:54 pm

Re: Relocating to Sicily
 
You should have been able to find plenty answers on this subject with google searches.
However, you can hear it all from horses mouth at https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizen...e/index_en.htm .

philat98 Oct 22nd 2024 11:03 pm

Re: Relocating to Sicily
 

Originally Posted by EU.flag (Post 13281729)
You should have been able to find plenty answers on this subject with google searches.
However, you can hear it all from horses mouth at https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizen...e/index_en.htm .

Italy doesn't always follow those EU rules. They just make the laws up in some places. When I wanted a long term visa after 5 years of residency the application was rejected. The clerk said that I had to show 5 years of employment.(She knew I wasn't working).

EU.flag Oct 23rd 2024 3:04 am

Re: Relocating to Sicily
 

Originally Posted by philat98 (Post 13281734)
Italy doesn't always follow those EU rules. They just make the laws up in some places. When I wanted a long term visa after 5 years of residency the application was rejected. The clerk said that I had to show 5 years of employment.(She knew I wasn't working).

That is not really true, Italy has to follow EU law.
However, what you experienced (and many other) in Mediterranean countries, is civil servants making up laws as they go.
Especially when they dont know details about specific law, they feel free to make up their own interpretation of law. Why? Because there is zero accountability.
Practice is same here in PT, too often.

Listen Very Carefully Oct 23rd 2024 3:40 am

Re: Relocating to Sicily
 
There were very nice ladies who worked in my Commune office when I lived in Italy.You could ask them all the same question and you would get three different answers .I too wanted my 5 year residency certificate I ended up refereeing the three of them as they all had different opinions as to which documents I needed. I had gone in just before my five years in order to get a definitive list -some hope.

philat98 Oct 23rd 2024 4:33 am

Re: Relocating to Sicily
 

Originally Posted by Listen Very Carefully (Post 13281788)
There were very nice ladies who worked in my Commune office when I lived in Italy.You could ask them all the same question and you would get three different answers .I too wanted my 5 year residency certificate I ended up refereeing the three of them as they all had different opinions as to which documents I needed. I had gone in just before my five years in order to get a definitive list -some hope.

It was similar in my village. The clerk said she wasn't sure but she knew a woman in another small comune 20miles away who knew the law inside out. The question was asked and after 2 weeks the answer came back in the negative.

modicasa Oct 23rd 2024 4:50 pm

Re: Relocating to Sicily
 
In my experience its because once they have the job, any idea of learning anything new is anathema. I found that printing off the correct circular from the Ministry and citing the Gazetta Ufficiale usually worked wonders - after all they'd never read it, and its on headed paper so it must be true.

Andybcfc Oct 24th 2024 10:40 pm

Re: Relocating to Sicily
 
Thank you all for your replies.
As a follow up question, If i have permanent residency in Lithuania would I be able to relocate to Italy alone and obtain residency without the 90 day rule.

Red_Wine_Fairy Oct 25th 2024 12:36 am

Re: Relocating to Sicily
 

Originally Posted by Andybcfc (Post 13282080)
Thank you all for your replies.
As a follow up question, If i have permanent residency in Lithuania would I be able to relocate to Italy alone and obtain residency without the 90 day rule.

No. Residency of one EU country does not entitle us to residency in a different EU country.

Assuming you have an Article 50 visa, On the day Brexit came into force, we became landlocked to the country that issued it, unless we qualified for a different kind of visa in the new country. But the Article 50 visa is not transferable between EU countries. At this time.


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