Permesso di soggiorno
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Permesso di soggiorno
As we spend more than 90 but less than 183 days per year in Italy we are looking at the permesso as a post Brexit way forward. I understand that as well as income you need to demonstrate health insurance and this seems to be ludicrously expensive. Anybody have any experience of this? Is it possible to buy it for a short period just to satisfy the authorities? Under current arrangements we are of course covered by reciprocal arrangements will this continue post Brexit? As we are still in the negoiating period if we apply now is it necessary to show insurance?
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Re: Permesso di soggiorno
May be a Certificato di Residenza will do if Italy is not your real home.
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Re: Permesso di soggiorno
Hi
Thanks for the suggestion but I am not sure that will do the trick. What I am trying to find my way round is the post Brexit visa issue. From next year I am guessing that non-resident Brits will need a visa to enter Europe and that will only give you permission to reside for upto ninety days. I thought that a permesso di soggiorno would get around this but then came up against the health insurance thing. Anybody else facing this issue got any ideas?
Thanks for the suggestion but I am not sure that will do the trick. What I am trying to find my way round is the post Brexit visa issue. From next year I am guessing that non-resident Brits will need a visa to enter Europe and that will only give you permission to reside for upto ninety days. I thought that a permesso di soggiorno would get around this but then came up against the health insurance thing. Anybody else facing this issue got any ideas?
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Re: Permesso di soggiorno
We applied for and got our PdS's a couple of years ago at our local comune. One of us used an S1 to prove health Insurance and the other an EHIC card-it worked
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Re: Permesso di soggiorno
Hi
Thanks for the suggestion but I am not sure that will do the trick. What I am trying to find my way round is the post Brexit visa issue. From next year I am guessing that non-resident Brits will need a visa to enter Europe and that will only give you permission to reside for upto ninety days. I thought that a permesso di soggiorno would get around this but then came up against the health insurance thing. Anybody else facing this issue got any ideas?
Thanks for the suggestion but I am not sure that will do the trick. What I am trying to find my way round is the post Brexit visa issue. From next year I am guessing that non-resident Brits will need a visa to enter Europe and that will only give you permission to reside for upto ninety days. I thought that a permesso di soggiorno would get around this but then came up against the health insurance thing. Anybody else facing this issue got any ideas?
But basically the bottom line is that nobody knows what the state of things will be after the end of the transition period, which makes it pretty much impossible to plan for. The only thing you can be assured of is that emergency cover will continue (because that is available to all, regardless of origin and/or status)
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My partner was quite ill in January and had to go into A&E with an orange code. The first thing they wanted was a valid Tessera Sanitaria. I am not sure what happens if you dont have one.
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Re: Permesso di soggiorno
As we spend more than 90 but less than 183 days per year in Italy we are looking at the permesso as a post Brexit way forward. I understand that as well as income you need to demonstrate health insurance and this seems to be ludicrously expensive. Anybody have any experience of this? Is it possible to buy it for a short period just to satisfy the authorities? Under current arrangements we are of course covered by reciprocal arrangements will this continue post Brexit? As we are still in the negoiating period if we apply now is it necessary to show insurance?
If you apply now, yes you will need insurance. Ask your comune exactly what they want as it can vary. Some regions allow you to buy into the system the same way as non-EU's.
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Re: Permesso di soggiorno
The Uk Is currently advising you get one of the following.
- an attestazione di regolarità di soggiorno
- a certificato di residenza
- attestazione di iscrizione anagrafica or attestazione di soggiorno permanente (if resident for 5 years or more)
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Re: Permesso di soggiorno
The Uk Is currently advising you get one of the following.
- an attestazione di regolarità di soggiorno
- a certificato di residenza
- attestazione di iscrizione anagrafica or attestazione di soggiorno permanente (if resident for 5 years or more)
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Re: Permesso di soggiorno
Hi everyone
Thanks for all your contributions. At the end of it all I am still mighty confused so I am popping over to see a friend of mine who is a lawyer to see if she knows what is going on. As Serrano said nobody seems to know and as we own our house over here I would feel a whole lot better if I knew something. Maybe the reciprocal health arrangements will continue. Goodness what a mess.
I always measure the passing of the year as Eredita changes to Reazione a Catena.
Thanks for all your contributions. At the end of it all I am still mighty confused so I am popping over to see a friend of mine who is a lawyer to see if she knows what is going on. As Serrano said nobody seems to know and as we own our house over here I would feel a whole lot better if I knew something. Maybe the reciprocal health arrangements will continue. Goodness what a mess.
I always measure the passing of the year as Eredita changes to Reazione a Catena.
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Re: Permesso di soggiorno
No-one knows because there is no agreement yet. When Boris throws his tantrum and pulls GB out wihtout a deal then you will need a PdS from next January if you stay more than 90 days, and also - if the EU is feeling particularly vindictive - a Schengen visa. Im sure there will be lots of health insurance companies popping up with deals, but if you are not rolling in it, then the assicurazione volontaria is a good way to go. The Ass Vol runs from 1Jan to 31 Dec to if you're going to get it, get it early in the year to get your moneys worth.
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Re: Permesso di soggiorno
British in Italy have some information for residents and a link to the new Attestazione form.
https://britishinitaly.net/residents-rights-procedures
https://britishinitaly.net/residents-rights-procedures