New biometric card
#46
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Re: New biometric card
I'm with HadEnoughPizza on this: The new digital residence card (Carta Elettronico di Soggiorno) for Brits resident in the EU prior to 2021 is just that; a digital card recognised and issued by all EU countries in the same format (not just the Questure in Italy). It is not an I.D. card but is a proof of the right to residency in an EU country for those Brits that are eligible having been resident in Italy prior to 31 Dec 2020.
#47
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Re: New biometric card
Does it give UK citizens any extra rights though? Can I go and spend more than 90 days in another EU country than Italy where I am resident. Can I go through the Schengen gate at the airport?
#48
Re: New biometric card
Hi all - decided this morning to try and get an appointment at the questura so sent off an email which bounced straight back. I sort of expected this in view of comments above. I then sorted out a pec email - went for a cheap one via aruba.it - it was an easy process all done on line but then I got confused by the different passwords for accessing aruba's site and the pec mail box. Eventually got it sorted out and sent my email successfully - now awaiting a reply. Next challenge will be the post office for the postal order payment...
#50
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Re: New biometric card
When you send a pec you will get an email back saying it has been accettata - meaning it has been accepted by the system. Thena second saying it hasbeen consegnata - in that it has reached the right mailbox. If they read it of course is another matter, but legally once consegnata you have the law on the your side. The PA must reply within 30 days.
#51
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Re: New biometric card
After having no luck (so far) with ordinary email (see above) I too have opened a pec and I sent the message 3 days ago. I'll see how it goes.
By the way, my ordinary email didn't bounce back, it just hasn't provoked any reaction up to now.
By the way, my ordinary email didn't bounce back, it just hasn't provoked any reaction up to now.
#52
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Re: New biometric card
I took the same route as Lugsbug and opened an Aruba PEC account (yes, I agree it's a faff initially having two separate Aruba log-ins but have added the PEC account to my Outlook and Gmail apps and it now works okay without further need for log-in info). Sent a PEC to the Treviso Questura on Tuesday and they responded this morning with an appointment in 5 weeks time. So far so good.
(Best I get the passport photos and bolletino done before we go into zona Rosa.)
(Best I get the passport photos and bolletino done before we go into zona Rosa.)
#53
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Re: New biometric card
For what it's worth, my experience so far:
Last Friday, sent a PEC to the Questura of the Provincial Capital requesting an appointment
Monday, received a PEC reply that the matter had been forwarded to my local Questura
Wednesday, received a PEC from local Questura, asking me to ring them to arrange an appointment.
Thursday (today) phoned Questura. Very helpful people, appointment made at a time of my choosing, next Wednesday.
The problem is, it can only go downhill from here ...
Last Friday, sent a PEC to the Questura of the Provincial Capital requesting an appointment
Monday, received a PEC reply that the matter had been forwarded to my local Questura
Wednesday, received a PEC from local Questura, asking me to ring them to arrange an appointment.
Thursday (today) phoned Questura. Very helpful people, appointment made at a time of my choosing, next Wednesday.
The problem is, it can only go downhill from here ...
#54
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Re: New biometric card
For me I had no problems using regular email and had my appointment at the end of January - was informed at the time it could take 3 months to arrive, but I suppose it depends on how many Brits are in your locality applying for one.
#55
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The problem with the number of Brits is that if there are lots you might end up waiting a long time. If there are very few, the 'authorities' may not know what they're doing. Swings and roundabouts I suspect. There are very few Brits around here, but, miraculously I suspect, the Questura are giving very much the impression that they know what they're doing, and want to help. But I know that disillusion is only ever one step away.
#56
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Re: New biometric card
The problem with the number of Brits is that if there are lots you might end up waiting a long time. If there are very few, the 'authorities' may not know what they're doing. Swings and roundabouts I suspect. There are very few Brits around here, but, miraculously I suspect, the Questura are giving very much the impression that they know what they're doing, and want to help. But I know that disillusion is only ever one step away.
#58
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Re: New biometric card
Reading through the different threads on the biometric card and WA certificate has made me decide to go the full monty, i.e. get Italian citizenship in order to restore all my lost rights and avoid these other two administrative formalities. I hope there are some useful threads here on that and in particular how to get birth certificate and police record documents certified in the UK?
Have we also lost the right of all Europeans to ask for Italian citizenship after only 4 years residence so that we now have to justify 10 years residence?
Have we also lost the right of all Europeans to ask for Italian citizenship after only 4 years residence so that we now have to justify 10 years residence?
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