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kevray Dec 9th 2008 2:59 am

Moving to Pisa
 
Hi all, After some deep soul searching I have decided to forget moving to Spain and am now in the final stages of moving to Pisa, I am doing a TEFL course and have secured a temp teaching position about 20 mins outside of Pisa. Starting the middle of April 09.

My question is are there many expats in this region, and should I be aware of any pitfalls regarding teaching at private language schools.

Thanks in anticipation

Lorna at Vicenza Dec 9th 2008 4:20 am

Re: Moving to Pisa
 
welcome to the forum and eventually to Pisa.

As for the job - ask about holiday pay - sick pay - and if they pay you something over the summer months if they close.

You must also ask what kind of Italian contract you I know some teachers are required to pay their own INPS contrubutions.
Istituto Nazionale Previdenza Sociale


As for the teaching side of it ........ Italians have no equivalent to our present perfect tense so be prepared for lots of explanations as to why they cannot say :

How long you know Paolo?
How many years you live in Italy?

Lorna at Vicenza Dec 9th 2008 4:21 am

Re: Moving to Pisa
 
missed out a bit ............

contract you will have .........

irish girl in italy Dec 9th 2008 4:42 am

Re: Moving to Pisa
 
Kevray

What kind of school are you going to work in???

Somewhere like Inlingua if so let me know and I'll tell you all I have worked in 4 different schools so have a bit of experience of how they work.

Lord Lionheart Dec 9th 2008 5:03 am

Re: Moving to Pisa
 

Originally Posted by irish girl in italy (Post 7052628)
Kevray

What kind of school are you going to work in???

Somewhere like Inlingua if so let me know and I'll tell you all I have worked in 4 different schools so have a bit of experience of how they work.


If you're an Irish girl living in Pisa would your name be Eileen?

Cleri Dec 9th 2008 5:07 am

Re: Moving to Pisa
 

Originally Posted by Lord Lionheart (Post 7052695)
If you're an Irish girl living in Pisa would your name be Eileen?

:lol:...you're bored aren't you

Lord Lionheart Dec 9th 2008 5:10 am

Re: Moving to Pisa
 

Originally Posted by Cleri (Post 7052706)
:lol:...you're bored aren't you

:o :o Day trading, looking for jobs, watching Toy Story for the umteenth time and taking the mickey on BE. It's obvious isn't it. Off to the gym later

Cleri Dec 9th 2008 5:13 am

Re: Moving to Pisa
 

Originally Posted by Lord Lionheart (Post 7052712)
:o :o Day trading, looking for jobs, watching Toy Story for the umteenth time and taking the mickey on BE. It's obvious isn't it. Off to the gym later

Don't worry,your transparency is safe with me :)

irish girl in italy Dec 9th 2008 5:22 am

Re: Moving to Pisa
 
Lord Lionheart

Don't think I said I lived in Pisa!!!

Gosh I do attract them!!! LOL

kevray Dec 9th 2008 5:25 am

Re: Moving to Pisa
 

Originally Posted by Lorna at Vicenza (Post 7052524)
welcome to the forum and eventually to Pisa.

As for the job - ask about holiday pay - sick pay - and if they pay you something over the summer months if they close.

You must also ask what kind of Italian contract you I know some teachers are required to pay their own INPS contrubutions.
Istituto Nazionale Previdenza Sociale


As for the teaching side of it ........ Italians have no equivalent to our present perfect tense so be prepared for lots of explanations as to why they cannot say :

How long you know Paolo?
How many years you live in Italy?

HI, the contract is for just two months, about 20 hours a week, my thoughts being that once actually being in Italy it will be easier o find something more suitable., but thanks for the points, had not realised about INPS.

kevray Dec 9th 2008 5:28 am

Re: Moving to Pisa
 

Originally Posted by irish girl in italy (Post 7052628)
Kevray

What kind of school are you going to work in???

Somewhere like Inlingua if so let me know and I'll tell you all I have worked in 4 different schools so have a bit of experience of how they work.

Hi Irish, its a private school run by an acquaintance, who kindly said I could get started there, She's a brave woman lol, its in a village called Calci.

irish girl in italy Dec 9th 2008 6:38 am

Re: Moving to Pisa
 
Well in my opinion if you have someone who can help you get started that is great.

My experience of working in private schools was not on the whole negative but the hours are irregular sometimes early starts then a few hours waiting around then late night lessons. The pay is terrible and if you do business english in companies you might also have to take buses all around PISA.

It really depends on the school and how it is run, for example I worked in one school who always gave me false information on the levels of the students ie said they were book 2 and not book 1, so you walk into the room and start speaking english and you would get blank looks. (Not to mention the time lost on preparing a lesson which you couldn't use).

These schools just want to make money they don't care about the students or their teachers. IF you start with a positive attitude prepare your lessons introduce a bit of fun you and your students will enjoy it.

Beginners are easier students as far as teaching grammar goes but it is hard to build a relationship with them because usually you do not converse with them in italian.

Intermediate are the confident group who will ask millions of questions re grammar, but you can build a quick rapport with them and some may become friends.

Anyway this is just a broad outline if I can help you with anything else let me know.

By the way I don't know Pisa personally but it is a University town so I imagine there is lots going on for young people.

Lorna at Vicenza Dec 9th 2008 6:41 am

Re: Moving to Pisa
 

Originally Posted by kevray (Post 7052779)
Hi Irish, its a private school run by an acquaintance, who kindly said I could get started there, She's a brave woman lol, its in a village called Calci.

and even if your students are following a book - you might need some back-up exercises.

I have hundreds in my pc so if you need anything, shout before typing out loads of lessons, excercises or grammar rules yourself.

irish girl in italy Dec 9th 2008 6:51 am

Re: Moving to Pisa
 
Also there are some very good web sites for teachers ie onestopenglish. This is something maybe you should ask - some schools have their own books ie Inlingua and are pretty free about letting you introduce other material others like Oxford use books like Cutting Edge and you have to finish so many units with your students or they ask why you haven't. For me this is a bad idea if you have some slower students you must move on even if you know they haven't got the point because the schools say you must finish so many units.

MONEY MONEY MONEY

kevray Dec 9th 2008 7:40 am

Re: Moving to Pisa
 
Lorna Irish, many many thanks for your support, its most welcome and I Shall take you up on those offers.

Love the idea of a good night life in Pisa, but maybe I would get arrested for being a dirty old man:lol:, I shall remember to pack my old raincoat:rofl:


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