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Pica Mar 15th 2020 8:33 am

leaving the house?
 
I read somewhere about a form needed that gives permission to leave the house.Does anyone know where I can locate it online please?

Geordieborn Mar 15th 2020 9:48 am

Re: leaving the house?
 
Pica we have friends back in Castilenti at the moment, I got the impression from them that they could go shopping within the comune (Casabianca), else they needed this form , but more importantly it needed to be signed by the local police. I found this link on the local forum (hopefully it works), perhaps someone can confirm it is the correct form.

philat98 Mar 15th 2020 10:39 am

Re: leaving the house?
 
It is a self certification form and you dont need anything from the police or comune.
Just print it and fill it in and tick the appropriate motive box. Put it in the car in case you are stopped.
You can download it here.
https://www.qualitytravel.it/covid-1...i-lavoro/78761

Margaret M Mar 15th 2020 10:39 am

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Originally Posted by Geordieborn (Post 12821052)
Pica we have friends back in Castilenti at the moment, I got the impression from them that they could go shopping within the comune (Casabianca), else they needed this form , but more importantly it needed to be signed by the local police. I found this link on the local forum (hopefully it works), perhaps someone can confirm it is the correct form.

Site says only registered users can access.

Pica Mar 15th 2020 11:33 am

Re: leaving the house?
 

Originally Posted by philat98 (Post 12821074)
It is a self certification form and you dont need anything from the police or comune.
Just print it and fill it in and tick the appropriate motive box. Put it in the car in case you are stopped.
You can download it here.
https://www.qualitytravel.it/covid-1...i-lavoro/78761

Thank you very much

clint Mar 15th 2020 11:58 am

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Originally Posted by Margaret M (Post 12821075)
Site says only registered users can access.

I am sure you can download from our comune website or you can get it here https://www.interno.gov.it/sites/def..._10.3.2020.pdf

Serrano Mar 15th 2020 11:59 am

Re: leaving the house?
 
You are recommended to pre-compile the form and take it with you, but this is not a legal requirement. The police who stop you will have blank copies that you can fill in on the spot. I would imagine the reason you are asked to pre-compile them is to save police time.

Just be sure that your trip really is permitted - both from a legal and a social perspective. This document (in English, and unofficial) explains fairly clearly what is and isn't allowed.

This is the official FAQ from the Ministry of the Interior (in Italian, and official)

philat98 Mar 15th 2020 1:17 pm

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Originally Posted by Serrano (Post 12821117)
You are recommended to pre-compile the form and take it with you, but this is not a legal requirement. The police who stop you will have blank copies that you can fill in on the spot. I would imagine the reason you are asked to pre-compile them is to save police time.

Just be sure that your trip really is permitted - both from a legal and a social perspective. This document (in English, and unofficial) explains fairly clearly what is and isn't allowed.

This is the official FAQ from the Ministry of the Interior (in Italian, and official)

We have been told that you can only do your shopping within the comune but it doesnt say that in the FAQ. We always go to IperCOOP in the next town.
We have had several trips out and there are less police than normal on the streets.

Serrano Mar 15th 2020 2:57 pm

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The bit about the same Comune is advice that you see in some parts (I've heard it several times), but definitely not the law. In the general spirit of things it's sensible for most situations. But the idea, the whole point, is to limit journeys to the fewest and shortest possible. Now imagine a hypothetical situation. You live in the country 100 metres from the comune boundary. The nearest shop in your Comune is 8Km away, the nearest in the neighbouring Comune only 1Km. You see the point.

So generally you should (though are not legally required to) go to your nearest shop. But common sense has to prevail.

philat98 Mar 15th 2020 3:02 pm

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Originally Posted by Serrano (Post 12821221)
The bit about the same Comune is advice that you see in some parts (I've heard it several times), but definitely not the law. In the general spirit of things it's sensible for most situations. But the idea, the whole point, is to limit journeys to the fewest and shortest possible. Now imagine a hypothetical situation. You live in the country 100 metres from the comune boundary. The nearest shop in your Comune is 8Km away, the nearest in the neighbouring Comune only 1Km. You see the point.

So generally you should (though are not legally required to) go to your nearest shop. But common sense has to prevail.

We have a small shop in the village with a poor selection of fresh food. There is only room for one customer at one time and the rest are queuing down tne street. I think the mayor is trying to profiteer from the situation.
The IperCOOP Iis a big clean shop with wide isles and self service checkouts. At 2.30pm it is empty.

Serrano Mar 15th 2020 6:05 pm

Re: leaving the house?
 

Originally Posted by philat98 (Post 12821224)
We have a small shop in the village with a poor selection of fresh food. There is only room for one customer at one time and the rest are queuing down tne street. I think the mayor is trying to profiteer from the situation.

Not sure that I'd necessarily agree with your comments about the mayor. This is now standard practice (and what is required by the decrees if there is not sufficient space inside to enforce the minimum interpersonal distance - as will be the case in most small shops)


Originally Posted by philat98 (Post 12821224)
The IperCOOP Iis a big clean shop with wide isles and self service checkouts. At 2.30pm it is empty.

Which is where common sense comes into it. You will almost certainly be OK going there - but obviously you couldn't use it as an excuse to go to a shop 100Km away ...

philat98 Mar 15th 2020 6:34 pm

Re: leaving the house?
 
I found the case of the shopper outside of his own comune in our local news.
The man who was fined for moving out of his comune was probably lying. He told police that he could not obtain any provisions in his town (unlikely because there are many supermarkets) so he had driven out to our small village to do his shopping.

philat98 Mar 16th 2020 1:05 pm

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There is someone in our town fined for not being able to show a purchase receipt for shopping placed in the car.

ALFIE15 Mar 21st 2020 3:41 pm

Re: leaving the house?
 
Quick question about shopping and travelling in a car. We believe we read early on in the the lockdown that there is a maximum of two people should travel in a car at anytime. Came up recently with friends can you drive to the supermarket in your local commune with your partner as long as you remain in the car does this comply with the rules.
Does anyone have the link that covers this area of laws.
thank you in advance of any information.

philat98 Mar 21st 2020 4:29 pm

Re: leaving the house?
 

Originally Posted by ALFIE15 (Post 12824605)
Quick question about shopping and travelling in a car. We believe we read early on in the the lockdown that there is a maximum of two people should travel in a car at anytime. Came up recently with friends can you drive to the supermarket in your local commune with your partner as long as you remain in the car does this comply with the rules.
Does anyone have the link that covers this area of laws.
thank you in advance of any information.

Two in a car is OK if it is your partner otherwise you have to be 1m apart.
This seems to explain it Decreto #IoRestoaCasa, domande frequenti sulle misure adottate dal Governo | www.governo.it


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