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Old Aug 16th 2022, 7:11 am
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thanks.

is there a list of regions which accpet buying into the SSN?

I understand it is not possible to do this in certain regions and one definetly needs insurance.
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Old Aug 16th 2022, 4:55 pm
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Piedmont for sure - we buy into the system
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Originally Posted by C.2s
But on the other hand medicines for chronic illness or for long term reduction/prevention of risk can be free on prescription if you are enrolled in the national health system. There's no prescription charge like there is the UK. I think that the justification is that if people don't take medicine because of the cost and then end up in hospital it'll be more expensive for the state in the long run.
Seems to me to be a pretty sensible approach. Better than the UK.​​​​​
Or a doctor can give a private prescription which you do pay for. So for example the high cholesterol and high blood pressure tablets I have to take are normally free. But recently because of a dispute about my healthcare status I have had to pay...yet even then the price was cheaper than the cost of prescription charges in the UK.
Minor point of order but prescription charges only apply in England & Wales, they're free in Scotland & NI.
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Old Aug 23rd 2022, 4:53 pm
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Originally Posted by GeorgeYoung
Minor point of order but prescription charges only apply in England & Wales, they're free in Scotland & NI.
In Wales too and for the over 60s in the UK.
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Old Aug 24th 2022, 9:13 am
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As GB is now a third country there should be no problem getting Assicurazione Volontaria. It was denied in some regions to EU citizens, but that is no longer a problem for Brits.
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Originally Posted by modicasa
As GB is now a third country there should be no problem getting Assicurazione Volontaria. It was denied in some regions to EU citizens, but that is no longer a problem for Brits.
Do you know if there is a list of its fees by region?
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Do you know if there is a list of its fees by region?
The cost is based on your income.
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So if you declare an invome of €30k you have to pay around €2000 per year by my sums.
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Old Aug 24th 2022, 11:23 am
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It's worth noting that voluntary enrollment in the health system does not entitle you to a European Health card valid outside Italy.
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Just picking up on a few points from this thread:

1. Good point about prescription charges in Scotland and Wales. Thanks to those of you who pointed that out.

2. This idea that's been expressed above that you just have to declare preexisting health conditions to your insurer and they will then cover the cost of prescriptions seems a little counterintuitive to me (I'm talking about private insurance here). I'd advise people to check this carefully. I never worked in health insurance (only life/motor and household insurance) but it's a general principle that insurance is for risks not certainties. It's like betting. And if you know there's a definite fixed cost that will always be incurred then you can't insure that (there's no risk). For example I imagine that for me they'd calculate the increased risk because I have high blood pressure, and offer insurance at an increased premium for things like heart disease because those things aren't certain, but not cover the cost of the blood pressure tablets that I take every day...if they did it would be "pound swapping" . The insurance would increase by a premium exactly equivalent to the cost of the medication (plus their admin fees)... and it would be stupid if I paid that... it'd be cheaper to just pay the pharmacist directly
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Old Aug 28th 2022, 4:37 pm
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On an income of 30k it would cost 2k to enter the SSN. Wouldn't a private insurance be cheaper than that anyway?
7% does seem a bit steep particularly if you live in a region where SSN isn't great and you end up needing private healthcare anyway.
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Originally Posted by fenman
On an income of 30k it would cost 2k to enter the SSN. Wouldn't a private insurance be cheaper than that anyway?
7% does seem a bit steep particularly if you live in a region where SSN isn't great and you end up needing private healthcare anyway.
A lot of Italians go private to jump the public waiting list. Where I live there are many private medical studios doing all sorts of things. Ten minutes with a private consultant costs €100+ so healthcare isnt cheap.. You just have to read the fine print on the insurance policy. With SSN if you live in Palermo you can get specialist treatment in Milan, Rome or wherever.

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Originally Posted by philat98
A lot of Italians go private to jump the public waiting list. Where I live there are many private medical studios doing all sorts of things. Ten minutes with a private consultant costs €100+ so healthcare isnt cheap.. You just have to read the fine print on the insurance policy. With SSN if you live in Palermo you can get specialist treatment in Milan, Rome or wherever.

What are waiting lists like where you live?
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Old Aug 29th 2022, 5:55 am
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What are waiting lists like where you live?
There is a big queue for ultrasound and MRI examinations in Umbria. Judging by the number of private studios in the town, queues for less serious conditions must be fairly long.
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