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philat98 Jul 12th 2018 6:34 am

Dangers of Italian motoring
 

Geordieborn Jul 12th 2018 3:15 pm

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He siad it was the sun, but is that truck not on the wrong side of the road or is it one of those left trun filters it's on? He was very lucky!

philat98 Jul 12th 2018 5:53 pm

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I bet he has a few aches and pains. The last time I visited Sardinia there were a group of Germans with their bikes that they had transported by lorry from Germany and I felt a bit envious. The roads in Sardinia are generally good and the traffic is light. I would have thought one of the safest places for bikers in Italy.

GeorgeYoung Jul 13th 2018 7:45 am

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Geordie - looks to me like the truck is pulling out of a layby. Either way, it's quite an oblique left turn to maybe it just pulled wider to be able to make the turn.
I'd be prepared to wager the driver of the car hit by the moped was using a phone, there seems to be few reasons for it to drift into the oncoming traffic.
In Trentino, we are plagued by bikers in the summer, shattering the silence in the mountains, using passes like race tracks and, sadly, there are far too many weekend accidents.

Geordieborn Jul 13th 2018 7:58 am

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You can bet it being George Clooney on the scooter it will be quite well investigated, if not by the police, then by the press!

philat98 Jul 13th 2018 9:24 am

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Originally Posted by GeorgeYoung (Post 12532221)
In Trentino, we are plagued by bikers in the summer, shattering the silence in the mountains, using passes like race tracks and, sadly, there are far too many weekend accidents.

The roads around us have a shrine every few miles indicating the death toll. In Umbria there is quite a problem with off road motor bikes. They use shepherd tracks through forests and hills travelling fast in groups. Quite scary soemtimes. Tuscany seems able to stop them but not Umbria. I think our Guardia Forestale spend most of the day in the bar or the office.

Geordieborn Jul 13th 2018 9:48 am

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Originally Posted by philat98 (Post 12532267)
The roads around us have a shrine every few miles indicating the death toll. In Umbria there is quite a problem with off road motor bikes. They use shepherd tracks through forests and hills travelling fast in groups. Quite scary soemtimes. Tuscany seems able to stop them but not Umbria. I think our Guardia Forestale spend most of the day in the bar or the office.

On very rare occasions the biker boys are out here in the same way, but I guess only the shepherd is at risk and even there I would not want to go up against their dogs!

cermignano Jul 17th 2018 1:38 pm

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I have driven in a few countries but my worst experiences have been in Italy. It is nerve wracking at times. Overtaking in oncoming traffic, overtaking on bends, tailgating, impatience, driving very fast on helter skelter winding roads going from hill towns. 3 cars and 2 mopeds trying to get in to two lane dual carriageway traffic. Yes lots of shrines, tops in Europe for accidents. Not a very relaxing holiday experience

philat98 Jul 17th 2018 2:49 pm

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A big danger here is that some drivers will go through red traffic lights if they think they can get away with it. A few lights have cameras but most don't in Umbria.Another nasty thing is joining the shortest queue and then jumping across at the last second. All life threatening to pedestrians and cyclists.

Plan B Jul 18th 2018 8:50 am

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My pet hates are:
1. The huge number of drivers using mobile phones. Men and women, with and without passengers, and frequently in new models which must surely have hands-free connectivity.
2. Swinging out wide when making a turn: this can even mean crossing into on-coming traffic when taking a right-hand turn. It's as though they have been told that over-use of the steering wheel can wear it out.
3. Incorrectly set head lights. Not such a problem with longer summer nights, but in winter ....

BRIAN 1 Jul 18th 2018 10:03 am

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If it had been Tom Cruise,he would have said he was practising for his next Mission Impossible.

philat98 Jul 18th 2018 10:26 am

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Brits can make mistakes too. A few weeks ago an English car travelling on the wrong side of the road crashed head on near Todi.

BRIAN 1 Jul 18th 2018 11:09 am

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Originally Posted by philat98 (Post 12534737)
Brits can make mistakes too. A few weeks ago an English car travelling on the wrong side of the road crashed head on near Todi.

When we get off the ferry in Dover in December, every year,I have to think more about being on the left.When we get off in Dunkirk in March,it's just second nature,strange.

cermignano Jul 18th 2018 5:29 pm

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But these folk are not just making mistakes. This is how they choose to drive

ononno Jul 19th 2018 7:00 am

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Originally Posted by cermignano (Post 12535125)
But these folk are not just making mistakes. This is how they choose to drive

If they are of an older generation many of them may have 'bought' their licences rather than having passed a practical driving test.


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