Johnbologna63

That's an interesting point. I was born in the UK, pay my taxes there, have an NHS European Health card, have a UK passport, yet last year I worked in Germany for 3 months, Holland for 3 months Switzerland for 4 months and the remaining 2 months in Italy. I wonder where I will be classed as a resident! The previous year it was a similar time span but different countries within the EU. I'm starting to feel like Shamima Begum.

modicasa

Sorry if I misunderstood your original post, I obviously read it wrongly. Bologna being the city that it is, should have some way of vaccinating non registered people. Otherwise you could nip across to San Marino and get the sputnik jab! I would try the comune department that deals with immigrants, Im sure I saw on the news that there was a turn up, no questions asked, open day for vaccines.

jesnj

The UK also advertises days when anyone can turn up for a vaccine regardless of immigration/tax etc. status.

christmasoompa

Did you inform your GP's surgery that you were moving abroad?

You must be an Italian resident? Your home is there, that's where you pay utility bills, your wife is there, etc. You have no 'roots' in the other countries presumably, so must be Italy.

philat98

I suspect that Christmasoompa is correct. I wouldnt care to explain it to the Agenzia delle Entrate.
https://www.expertsforexpats.com/exp...esidence-test/

jiminalpago

Of course not, but, as I say, I had to inform "NHS Central" to get the S1.
At the end of the day, I can only be treated in one of the two countries at a time and I don't feel I am swindling either.
(can't find the emoji for "innocence" and this seems ott: 😇).
Jim

37100

The Italian tax office considers your tax residency to be where the centre of your life is, ( i.e where you have a home(s) and where you family live ) irrespective of how many days you spend in Italy.

Geordieborn

Tax situation apart, which I think is a lot more complex than stated here. I would have thought on a number of grounds you would qualify/be able to get a jab either in Italy or in the UK. For Italy is there not a basis for getting the jab by virtue of your wife’s status? Regards the UK whereby health treatment is residence based (as is Italy is it not?) I think it would matter little if you turned up at the border, stated you are not back and living with family - “give me my jab please”. Also as stated there are turn up and get jabbed centres in a lot of places in the UK. Having your UK passport would be enough if challenged, something I doubt very much will happen. Trouble as I see it with the UK option is if you have to have 2 jabs as you would either have to stay a few weeks or come back.

C.2s

John,

I think that people have been ignoring the question of the 'NHS European Health Card' which you have referred to a couple of times, because they have been trying to answer your question about getting the vaccine. That's fair enough, but can I just check? You do realise there's a big question mark over whether that is actually valid? This is because it was only ever intended to be for visits to another country (other than the country it was issued in). How does one define 'visits'? Well, they say temporary stays of up to 90 days. Okay, so maybe you could argue that you spend less than that in some of the countries you visit...maybe you could argue this...I'm not sure the authorities would agree. But in any event you say yourself that you haven't been back to the UK for 3 years...so I don't see how this can still be valid.

Johnbologna63

Ok here's another recent story, I didn't want to waste peoples time, but as you mentioned the validity of the EHIC, I thought I'd mention it. I had a mark under my eye, which appeared around 4 yrs ago. I was in the UK at the time and my other half suggested I go to the doctor. They looked at it and booked me in for a hospital check but I ended up flying out to Finland for work and missed the appointment. I didn't give it a second thought and just carried on regardless. Before anyone says anything, I know, it was stupid of me, I've only been to a hospital once in the 80s and I always feel I'm wasting peoples time and valuable resources by making a big deal about my petty issues (That's how I felt at the time) It was getting bigger but at a very slow rate to the point that I hadn't taken much notice. My wife kept going on and on about it so we went to see a specialist about a month ago here in Italy, who said that I needed emergency treatment as it was some form of cancer that was spreading towards my eye. I told him I will make arrangements to fly back to the UK and have it there. He was adamant that I needed the surgery straight away and he would book me into a specialised hospital in Italy. I told him I only had the UK EHIC, and he said me that was ok. Just before the operation I contacted the NHS dealing with medical issues outside of the UK, i gave them my information and explained what was about to happen. They got back to me and said that it was ok for the treatment to continue as I was entitled to the same treatment as a citizen of Italy within the same parameters i.e. If it's free for Italians, it would be free for me, if they have to pay for a specific treatment, I would also have to pay. Obviously the Covid vaccine is a different issue, so after reading the responses on this post and checking with the authorities suggested, I will probably have to fly back to the UK for that.

philat98

As Modicasa says you might go to San Marino. I suspect if you make enquires they might give you the Johnson vaccine and avoid staying 3 days for the Sputnik. They might even issue a green card,

modicasa

Your EHIC card is still valid for emergency treatment until its expiry date. Everything therefore depends on what is classed as emergency treatment.

C.2s

But it is intended for 'temporary stays'. So, the example that JohnBologna gives is interesting and on a purely personal level for him it's obviously good that he was able to get treatment in this situation. But for other people, or for him on other situations, you can't really rely on the UK issued EHIC if you have moved outside of the UK to work. (see https://www.nhs.uk/using-the-nhs/hea...ur-healthcare/). So, his example is not really a good indicator of what people 'should' do. It's bit like parking in a car park for an hour and not buying a ticket to park, and then when you return and find you haven't been fined or clamped somehow coming to the conclusion that you never need to buy a ticket in future...rather than just thinking you were lucky that one time.

jiminalpago

[QUOTE=C.2s;13032734]But it is intended for 'temporary stays'. /QUOTE]
I counted to 10 before reacting: John's case is how a mutual welfare system is supposed to work!

philat98

According to the Corriere della Sera a green pass will be required for access to trains, flights, ferries and hospitals after 6 August. Anyone who hasnt got one will be grounded. Too bad for residents of regions that havent done much vaccinating.