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OliveCameToo Jan 1st 2017 3:20 pm

Codice Fiscale Card
 
We applied for the Codice Fiscale on the 8th November and still haven't received the cards. I know things are laid back in Italy :) but do members think this may be too long?
We need to sort this out before end of January as we are renting in a different area and have been told we need to go back to change the address.

Margaret M Jan 1st 2017 5:43 pm

Re: Codice Fiscale Card
 

Originally Posted by OliveCameToo (Post 12140244)
We applied for the Codice Fiscale on the 8th November and still haven't received the cards. I know things are laid back in Italy :) but do members think this may be too long?
We need to sort this out before end of January as we are renting in a different area and have been told we need to go back to change the address.

We have never received a card for the Codice Fiscale, only a paper version, and we have been here 10 years. Our Tessere Sanatiarie have our Codice Fiscale on them, so we use those, but I guess you don't yet have one of these.

Pica Jan 1st 2017 6:26 pm

Re: Codice Fiscale Card
 
we were issued fairly promptly with paper versions when applying in person in Italy. The plastic cards took one month for myself and several for my OH. I have no idea wny. My UK resident children ( for inheritance purposes) applied via an Italian consulate in Uk and it took months for their paper versions to arrive.But eventually they did. Paper versions are perfectly acceptable.

modicasa Jan 2nd 2017 5:47 am

Re: Codice Fiscale Card
 
It depends whether you or someonee else crossed the box 'tessera' on the application form. usually if you put a foreign residence and an Itlaian domicile they will sent you a card as its obvious you are not resident and wont have a health card. If you put an italian residence they wont send a tessera because your health card will have your CF on it.

37100 Jan 2nd 2017 7:55 am

Re: Codice Fiscale Card
 

Originally Posted by OliveCameToo (Post 12140244)
We applied for the Codice Fiscale on the 8th November and still haven't received the cards. I know things are laid back in Italy :) but do members think this may be too long?
We need to sort this out before end of January as we are renting in a different area and have been told we need to go back to change the address.

There is no need to notify the AdE as when you sign up for residency at your new place at the town hall the tax register will be updated. If you are entitled to healthcare, the ASL notifies the AdE and they will send you one of newer cards with a chip in it.

OliveCameToo Jan 2nd 2017 10:46 am

Re: Codice Fiscale Card
 
Totally confused now!

When we applied our (temporary) 'residency' was a campsite. We asked if that would suit as an address and were told yes.

We got a paper version, there, on the spot.

The guy filled in the form but didnt mention 'tessera'.

I thought a Tessera WAS a health card?

Were we technically resident? - first 'address' a camp site, then we moved in to house sit for friends. We will be from January 1st as we have started renting.

We're not entitled to healthcare, we have private health insurance.

Please forgive my non understanding of all this. Not only am I struggling with officialdom but also the language!

Lorna at Vicenza Jan 2nd 2017 10:51 am

Re: Codice Fiscale Card
 

Originally Posted by OliveCameToo (Post 12140826)
Totally confused now!

When we applied our (temporary) 'residency' was a campsite. We asked if that would suit as an address and were told yes.

We got a paper version, there, on the spot.

The guy filled in the form but didnt mention 'tessera'.

I thought a Tessera WAS a health card?

Were we technically resident? - first 'address' a camp site, then we moved in to house sit for friends. We will be from January 1st as we have started renting.

We're not entitled to healthcare, we have private health insurance.

Please forgive my non understanding of all this. Not only am I struggling with officialdom but also the language!

Your paper codice fiscale is absolutely fine.
The tessera sanitaria is indeed the NHS health card but the codice fiscale is also printed on it.
I have both. If anybody asks for my codice fiscale I can whip either card out of my purse. I have had to write it out that often that I actually know if off by heart now anyway.

OliveCameToo Jan 2nd 2017 1:49 pm

Re: Codice Fiscale Card
 
Thank you, I think I get it now :)

Serrano Jan 2nd 2017 6:19 pm

Re: Codice Fiscale Card
 

Originally Posted by OliveCameToo (Post 12140910)
Thank you, I think I get it now :)

I think it's useful here to understand that 'tessera' really means simply a 'card' and thus can be used in many different contexts - much as in English. But, as in English, once the context is clear you don't need to keep specifying what sort of 'card' you're talking about.

Lorna at Vicenza Jan 2nd 2017 7:26 pm

Re: Codice Fiscale Card
 

Originally Posted by Serrano (Post 12141119)
I think it's useful here to understand that 'tessera' really means simply a 'card' and thus can be used in many different contexts - much as in English. But, as in English, once the context is clear you don't need to keep specifying what sort of 'card' you're talking about.

That sound quite complicated until you have a Coop discount card and the till girl says "ha la tessera?". In that case and others it does mean just a plastic card. A loyalty card or a discount card or any other card.

OliveCameToo Jan 3rd 2017 8:10 am

Re: Codice Fiscale Card
 
What are the ADE and ASL please?

Margaret M Jan 3rd 2017 8:20 am

Re: Codice Fiscale Card
 

Originally Posted by OliveCameToo (Post 12141506)
What are the ADE and ASL please?

Agencia del'Entrata and Agencia Sanitario Locale - apologies for the spelling - basically the tax office and the health service. I am sure someone else could put it better than me though.

ononno Jan 3rd 2017 9:14 am

Re: Codice Fiscale Card HMRC
 

Originally Posted by Margaret M (Post 12141515)
Agencia del'Entrata and Agencia Sanitario Locale - apologies for the spelling - basically the tax office and the health service. I am sure someone else could put it better than me though.

Explained very well: I tell anyone that asks that ADE = HMRC and ASL = NHS.

fliss59 Jan 8th 2017 4:47 pm

Re: Codice Fiscale Card
 
Our lovely estate agent queued up for our codice fiscale and we just have a paper version. We're non resident at the moment so don't know if this will change when we apply for residency

Serrano Jan 8th 2017 6:01 pm

Re: Codice Fiscale Card
 

Originally Posted by fliss59 (Post 12146005)
Our lovely estate agent queued up for our codice fiscale and we just have a paper version. We're non resident at the moment so don't know if this will change when we apply for residency

There are very few things in Italy where you can say "absolutely not, no way, never" - but this is one of them. I'm almost surprised that they don't tattoo people with their CF at Birth. Rest assured, it will not change.


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