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are there many I.T jobs in sydney OZ.
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isnt there a world wide glut in most IT jobs?
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Originally posted by threlly are there many I.T jobs in sydney OZ. cheers |
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Originally posted by bondipom What area of IT? It is still tight but getting better in some areas. programming and web design |
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Originally posted by bondipom What area of IT? It is still tight but getting better in some areas. programming and web design, we r planning to live in sydney |
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Originally posted by threlly programming and web design, we r planning to live in sydney |
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Originally posted by threlly programming and web design, we r planning to live in sydney |
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Originally posted by threlly we are planning to live north shore area, manly, dee Why to start with. |
How can an Oracle DBA be out of work for 3 years??? DBA & PL/SQL skills are always in demand everywhere!
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Originally posted by threlly we are planning to live north shore area, manly, dee Why to start with. :beer: |
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Originally posted by daveuk1965 Very little chance unless you come with XML, Javascript, database integration, T-SQL, SQL Server management skills........ I`m an Oracle DBA and I`ve been out of work three years here in the UK. There simply is nothing for anyone anywhere at the moment, unless you`re both very lucky and very specialised....... |
Originally posted by sbasak How can an Oracle DBA be out of work for 3 years??? DBA & PL/SQL skills are always in demand everywhere! Well, I`m not sure what the answer is, but perhaps I`d better ask most of my mates, who`re driving buses or selling used cars at the moment. In the UK, wages dropped by half, you were expected to do the work of the entire department, relocation packages were totally shelved, no one took anyone one ....... there`s ONE DBA job within 40 miles of here. Probably about 50 DBA`s chasing it, and they`ll take on a consultant with 10 years experience who`s desperate for ANY salary at all. Believe you me, "IT meltdown" outside London / Home Counties, which I can`t afford to move to - and have never ever ever wanted to work in. |
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Originally posted by mcjimbo Perhap you should retrain in doing web design, or perhaps do a microsoft certification? |
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Originally posted by korky Here is a link to over 300 jobs http://www.jobserve.com/it/jobserve/...Rank&WebSite=* here's three near home Obviously Oracle is NOT my strongest point ( :confused: ) so they may not be suited ... but they are out there. Where're u looking to go? |
Yep, there`s three near home on Jobserve. ;-)
And there`s 500+ unemployed Oracle professionals in the area. Plus - Jobserve`s a very famous site full of monkey agents who never, never, never chase jobs up. ;-)))))))))) UK IT recruitment agents are such low quality monkeys that the best bet is almost always to ignore `em and go direct to the employer. In these troubled times, the employer will take on a CONSULTANT with 10 years experience who`s just glad to get a job - any job - at all. Also, if you walk in with a gap in your CV, any employer nowadays will use that as a wedge to knock $10k minimum off your wages. Plus (again) if you take a one year break from IT, no one but no one will put you in charge of £600 million worth of data. Simple reason is that "your skill set is not current". Actually, builds of Oracle are so similar that it makes stuff all difference, but the point is that the market here is utterly different from the US, and believe me, you hit 40 here in IT and the scrapheap calls. ;-))))))))) |
Well Dave, I wish you all the best in the US sellin plane parts .. it's a shame (understatement I know) that you skills aren't apprecieated ... nor required.
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Originally posted by daveuk1965 Yep, there`s three near home on Jobserve. ;-) And there`s 500+ unemployed Oracle professionals in the area. Plus - Jobserve`s a very famous site full of monkey agents who never, never, never chase jobs up. ;-)))))))))) UK IT recruitment agents are such low quality monkeys that the best bet is almost always to ignore `em and go direct to the employer. In these troubled times, the employer will take on a CONSULTANT with 10 years experience who`s just glad to get a job - any job - at all. Also, if you walk in with a gap in your CV, any employer nowadays will use that as a wedge to knock $10k minimum off your wages. Plus (again) if you take a one year break from IT, no one but no one will put you in charge of £600 million worth of data. Simple reason is that "your skill set is not current". Actually, builds of Oracle are so similar that it makes stuff all difference, but the point is that the market here is utterly different from the US, and believe me, you hit 40 here in IT and the scrapheap calls. ;-))))))))) |
Originally posted by ecando Well Dave, I wish you all the best in the US sellin plane parts .. it's a shame (understatement I know) that you skills aren't apprecieated ... nor required. :( Yep, unfortunately, I`m not being pessimistic but realistic. Wish it wasn`t the case, but - well, world occaisionally changes and you have to change with it. ;-)))) I`m on a doley training course here in the UK. Just whiling away the days until Florida comes along. Today I got an IT lecturer / harangue from a real smarmy little toad who`s got a job (looking after a half dozen computers !! :D) who think light shines out of his posterior. There he was, going on and on about how expert he is and what he knows and does (virtually zero) - so I sit there, smiling away, looking out of the window - "Didn`t you used to be in IT ? " he eventually says..... "Yep, used to run IKEA`s European data network" says I. "Graduate, four languages, 20 years of IT experience, do anything, go anywhere - and here I am on the dole". :D There ARE lucky examples - my brothers` in IT and weathered the recession due to the field he was in - but - even if you DO get something now, it`s all six month contracts at best. I can`t honestly recommend anyone to go into IT- there are new graduates coming out now to jobs which pay less than working in a shop. |
there are new graduates coming out now to jobs which pay less than working in a shop. i'm an asp/vb developer with skills in animation too (flash and maya) 3yrs ago with that skill set i could get upto £40k in the North West UK, you'll be lucky to find anything over £22k now. that's a big drop on salary with no extra jobs to go with it. a sad state of affairs to be true, which has even seen me go back into my original trade of bricklaying and getting more money. and them so called it employment agencies are nothing more than book fillers, over 60% of their jobs are usually filled when they post an advert, the whole point being to get you on the register, and sell out when they hit 100,000 members or so.. i wouldnt waste my time even looking there. my g/f worked for a large agency for 3 yrs and told me the truth of what goes in. i'm looking at going to new zealand in the next few years, but if the possibilty of IT work is out the question over there, i may stay in the UK. |
Originally posted by DaveThomas so true it's sad. i'm an asp/vb developer with skills in animation too (flash and maya) 3yrs ago with that skill set i could get upto £40k in the North West UK, you'll be lucky to find anything over £22k now. that's a big drop on salary with no extra jobs to go with it. a sad state of affairs to be true, which has even seen me go back into my original trade of bricklaying and getting more money. and them so called it employment agencies are nothing more than book fillers, over 60% of their jobs are usually filled when they post an advert, the whole point being to get you on the register, and sell out when they hit 100,000 members or so.. i wouldnt waste my time even looking there. my g/f worked for a large agency for 3 yrs and told me the truth of what goes in. i'm looking at going to new zealand in the next few years, but if the possibilty of IT work is out the question over there, i may stay in the UK. |
Ecando, that`s just another jobs board full of monkey agents, I`m afraid. I wish you all the best of luck, and I hope your optimism isn`t misplaced........
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Originally posted by daveuk1965 Ecando, that`s just another jobs board full of monkey agents, I`m afraid. I wish you all the best of luck, and I hope your optimism isn`t misplaced........ Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern |
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Originally Posted by korky
I can only back up what Dave has said. Also, in the UK IT is a very ageist market and I reckon I'm the same vintage as Dave. Experience does not seem to count very much. I have MCSE, ITIL and Prince2 and still looking for work. p.s. I know the Jobserve site but try getting past the agencies. |
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