Destruction of Karwar

Old Jan 8th 2016, 2:57 am
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The historic town of Karwar is being destroyed, by road widening and encroachment by Seabird naval station. This market town/city famous for its Tagore beach, its high level of education, its fish restaurants is in a dreadful turmoil.
The NH 17 will be 4/6 lanes, already trees gone road sides dug. Inner main roads will be widened, already shops have lost 1.5 meters of frontage, including well known Amrut restaurant. Now some shops there for more than 100 years have been given 7 days to vacate, for rebuild and higher rents--where will they store their stock --who knows. Our road will go from single to 4 lanes. (We, at our age will never be able to cross it!!)
All roads a mixture of rubble and mess.
A new bridge already started over the river Kali, that great view even more spoiled.
Very, very sad.
One positive point the fishermen displaced by Seabird finally got their compensation and some are building nice houses at Devbagh.


Karwar locals protest against extension of highway through Panaji - Times of India
Bad journalism--- it should be protest IN Panaji not "through".
Not sure about that final petition can't imagine the local people are going to euthanase each other over the changes!!!
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This sounds very sad.

I know there is always progress but it always seems to bring some sort of horrible loss.

Have I read this correctly BiPat. Is this your area ?
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This sounds very sad. I know there is always progress but it always seems to bring some sort of horrible loss. Have I read this correctly BiPat. Is this your area ?
Yes BEVS, although no one in the family lives there permenently now. The in-laws are one of the oldest families there; came when the British made it a capital of the area about a hundred years ago. One problem of the great schools of the time is that so many students qualified for the top city universities and never came back, although many individuals visit regularly. Now our old family house is cared for in turn, we ourselves spend a few months each year. (Always occupied by somone--crime has also increased!)Trying to persuade OH and brother to write an essay/blog about it. It was so beautiful before but progress was essential, first the bridge over the river estuary and a highway road to Goa State (There used to be an amazing raft ferry, took one car!) and then it has gone on from there. The same story must be happening world over certainly in UK countryside.
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Yes BEVS, although no one in the family lives there permenently now. The in-laws are one of the oldest families there; came when the British made it a capital of the area about a hundred years ago. One problem of the great schools of the time is that so many students qualified for the top city universities and never came back, although many individuals visit regularly. Now our old family house is cared for in turn, we ourselves spend a few months each year. (Always occupied by somone--crime has also increased!)Trying to persuade OH and brother to write an essay/blog about it. It was so beautiful before but progress was essential, first the bridge over the river estuary and a highway road to Goa State (There used to be an amazing raft ferry, took one car!) and then it has gone on from there. The same story must be happening world over certainly in UK countryside.

Nothing like that is happening in the UK.
Local residents are able to use UK planning laws and appeals to the highest levels to resist this type of development.
Although when the UK was at a similar stage in its economic development as India the same things happened.
Economic forces and vested interests will always take prioroty over the wishes of the loczl people and the environment.when growth is the priority of government..
There is a price to be paid for economic growth and China and now India are paying it.
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Originally Posted by EMR
Nothing like that is happening in the UK.
Local residents are able to use UK planning laws and appeals to the highest levels to resist this type of development.
Although when the UK was at a similar stage in its economic development as India the same things happened.
Economic forces and vested interests will always take prioroty over the wishes of the loczl people and the environment.when growth is the priority of government..
There is a price to be paid for economic growth and China and now India are paying it.
Hello EMR! Welcome to this part of the Forum. The 'destruction' of Karwar has really nothing whatsoever to do with economic growth.

Look up the Seabird project on Wiki!! Bearing in mind that the word Karwar often refers to Karwar Taluk not the town.

It is to do with two facts
1) The unique natural harbour/port
2) Continued terrorism and fear of possible invasion from neighbouring countries.
It will eventually be the largest Naval Port in India.

In fact, it was the British who moved their admin. centre of North Kanara to what was then a village in the mid 19th century. It was becaue of the port although they never used it much.
Karwar will become a naval town and the old country atmosphere lost.

Yes it is progress in a way but more to do with security of the country and world politics. We have to put up with the need for security---just a pity it is in 'our back yard'.

Nothing like that in the UK --You must be joking? It is more important than the high speed rail track in UK which will reduce the time from Birmingham to London by 30 mins!!
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Nothing like that in the UK --You must be joking? It is more important than the high speed rail track in UK which will reduce the time from Birmingham to London by 30 mins!!
True, and you could also mention the proposed third runway at Heathrow, which if it proceeds will have a dramatic impact on nearby houses and villages.
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Planning Laws are a recent development in Britain and wree introcuded only in 1947. India will cvatch up one day !


There is still a HUGE struggle in the Uk when you explain to sopmeone that (s)he cannot do exactly what he wants with his land or house. there are rules ! A novel idea until just after WW2
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Planning Laws are a recent development in Britain and wree introcuded only in 1947. India will cvatch up one day !


There is still a HUGE struggle in the Uk when you explain to sopmeone that (s)he cannot do exactly what he wants with his land or house. there are rules ! A novel idea until just after WW2
"India will catch up one day"??
The planning rules in India are if anything more strict than the UK!

A massive naval base built for national security takes precedence in any country. As I said it is a pity when it is in your own back yard, and the coastal beauty spoiled.

(Most of the shops in question are rented from the council, they are being replaced, it was the rushed organisation that was the problem.)
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