meme

I have been offered employment by an accredited employer and they have sent me Form 1015 application to work in New Zealand (talent visa) under work to residence. My wife and daughter have to apply for work visas in their own right (daughter dependant 18yrs) but neither are skilled migrants or have job offers. Do they have be skilled migrants, do they have to have a job offer to be able to apply for a work visa. I was under the impression that my wife and daughter would get work visas under the strength of my application. Is this true? if so which forms do they have to fill in, what information is required and what criteria do they have to meet.

JAJ

There are not many New Zealand experts/agents posting on this forum so you may not get any meaningful reply.

http://www.immigration.govt.nz has to be your reference.

- check to see if they can get work permits without reference to their skills. Bear in mind that even if they have work permits, employers may be reluctant to hire them unless they are permanent residents. Especially for long term, career-orientated jobs (ie the better jobs).

- when you go for permanent residence, what conditions will apply to your daughter? If she is working, will her permanent visa application be refused if she's no longer dependent on you (this is a big problem in Australia).

- if your daughter wants to study in NZ, will she be charged overseas fees if you don't have PR? If so, will your employer pay the cost, or will you have to?

- how long will it take you to get PR under work to residence? Is it the best route for you? Maybe it would be a good idea to go for PR immediately under skilled migration, if you have the points (in addition to getting a work permit)?

- If your job doesn't work out, or your circumstances change (eg death or illness in the family) will you be left in a difficult visa situation, if that happens before PR is granted?

- New Zealand now requires 5 years for citizenship. Time on a temporary permit no longer counts. http://www.citizenship.govt.nz



Jeremy

meme

Thanks for the advice Jeremy. The accredited employer has advised that after 2 years of service that I will be offered residency subject to qualifying the medical. I am waiting for a response from them in regards to the questions you have posed. I am more fortunate than most in respects of my prospective employer has links with immigration and can always ask them for advice whereas I am still in the position of filing out ambiguous forms and resenting the £1.00 a minute phone line fee to immigration.

JAJ

The biggest question is why wait 2 years to get permanent residence.

Have you looked at the NZIS website to see if more immediate options are available?


Jeremy

Dave

"meme" <member39973@british_expats.com> wrote in message
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    >> There are not many New Zealand experts/agents posting on this forum so
    >> you may not get any meaningful reply.
    >> http://www.immigration.govt.nz has to be your reference.
    >> - check to see if they can get work permits without reference to their
    >> skills. Bear in mind that even if they have work permits, employers
    >> may be reluctant to hire them unless they are permanent residents.
    >> Especially for long term, career-orientated jobs (ie the better
    >> jobs).
    >> - when you go for permanent residence, what conditions will apply to
    >> your daughter? If she is working, will her permanent visa
    >> application be refused if she's no longer dependent on you (this is
    >> a big problem in Australia).
    >> - if your daughter wants to study in NZ, will she be charged overseas
    >> fees if you don't have PR? If so, will your employer pay the cost,
    >> or will you have to?
    >> - how long will it take you to get PR under work to residence? Is it
    >> the best route for you? Maybe it would be a good idea to go for PR
    >> immediately under skilled migration, if you have the points (in
    >> addition to getting a work permit)?
    >> - If your job doesn't work out, or your circumstances change (eg death
    >> or illness in the family) will you be left in a difficult visa
    >> situation, if that happens before PR is granted?
    >> - New Zealand now requires 5 years for citizenship. Time on a
    >> temporary permit no longer counts. http://www.citizenship.govt.nz
    >> Jeremy
    > Thanks for the advice Jeremy. The accredited employer has advised that
    > after 2 years of service that I will be offered residency subject to
    > qualifying the medical. I am waiting for a response from them in
    > regards to the questions you have posed. I am more fortunate than most
    > in respects of my prospective employer has links with immigration and
    > can always ask them for advice whereas I am still in the position of
    > filing out ambiguous forms and resenting the £1.00 a minute phone line
    > fee to immigration.
Phone the NZIS offices in NZ using a low cost carrier (ie onetel.co.uk but
there's plenty to choose from). I think it costs me a few pence per minute
that way.

Dave

"JAJ" <member23519@british_expats.com> wrote in message
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    >> Thanks for the advice Jeremy. The accredited employer has advised
    >> that after 2 years of service that I will be offered residency subject
    >> to qualifying the medical. I am waiting for a response from them in
    >> regards to the questions you have posed. I am more fortunate than
    >> most in respects of my prospective employer has links with immigration
    >> and can always ask them for advice whereas I am still in the position
    >> of filing out ambiguous forms and resenting the £1.00 a minute phone
    >> line fee to immigration.
    > The biggest question is why wait 2 years to get permanent residence.
    > Have you looked at the NZIS website to see if more immediate options are
    > available?
Jeremy,
I thought the only *permanent* residence was citizenship? ;-) Joking aside,
I don't *think* you can get anything other than temporary status until an
Indefinite Returning Residents Visa is issued after the first two years.

Dave.

Dave

"meme" <member39973@british_expats.com> wrote in message
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    > I have been offered employment by an accredited employer and they have
    > sent me Form 1015 application to work in New Zealand (talent visa) under
    > work to residence. My wife and daughter have to apply for work visas in
    > their own right (daughter dependant 18yrs) but neither are skilled
    > migrants or have job offers. Do they have be skilled migrants, do they
    > have to have a job offer to be able to apply for a work visa. I was
    > under the impression that my wife and daughter would get work visas
    > under the strength of my application. Is this true? if so which forms
    > do they have to fill in, what information is required and what criteria
    > do they have to meet.
Try the forums on http://www.*****.co.uk/chat/phpbb/index.php and
http://www.mov****.com/default.aspx?sm=g8

JAJ

People who go to New Zealand as *migrants* (not temporary permit holders) get permanent residence status immediately. Of course it's not unconditional like citizenship, but it's a lot more secure than a temporary permit.

My understanding has been that in the first two years, one can travel in and out of NZ with the intial visa, and one only needs an RRV after 2 years.

But the place to check all facts is http://www.immigration.govt.nz

Dave

"JAJ" <member23519@british_expats.com> wrote in message
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    >> "JAJ" <member23519@british_expats.com> wrote in message
    >> news:[email protected] m...
    >> >> Thanks for the advice Jeremy. The accredited employer has advised
    >> >> that after 2 years of service that I will be offered residency
    >> >> subject
    >> >> to qualifying the medical. I am waiting for a response from them
    >> >> in
    >> >> regards to the questions you have posed. I am more fortunate than
    >> >> most in respects of my prospective employer has links with
    >> >> immigration
    >> >> and can always ask them for advice whereas I am still in the
    >> >> position
    >> >> of filing out ambiguous forms and resenting the £1.00 a minute
    >> >> phone
    >> >> line fee to immigration.
    >> > The biggest question is why wait 2 years to get permanent residence.
    >> > Have you looked at the NZIS website to see if more immediate options
    >> > are
    >> > available?
    >> Jeremy,
    >> I thought the only *permanent* residence was citizenship? ;-)
    >> Joking aside,
    >> I don't *think* you can get anything other than temporary status
    >> until an
    >> Indefinite Returning Residents Visa is issued after the first
    >> two years.
    >> Dave.
    > People who go to New Zealand as *migrants* (not temporary permit
    > holders) get permanent residence status immediately. Of course it's not
    > unconditional like citizenship, but it's a lot more secure than a
    > temporary permit.
Ok, cheers.

    > My understanding has been that in the first two years, one can travel
    > in and out of NZ with the intial visa, and one only needs an RRV
    > after 2 years.
Agreed.