work references
Jun 29th 2009, 1:56 pm
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Re: work references
Sorry for jumping onto this thread with a question of my own, but I've been in my current teaching post for the past 5 years, next year being my 6th, the school I was @ previously, I was at for 3 years. Will DIAC require a reference from them also? Kind of ironic that I'm only thinking of this now as the academic year ends tomorrow here in Northern Ireland, OOPSIES.... Be curious to know if I do need this reference and I'll get working on gaining it ASAP....
Jun 29th 2009, 4:03 pm
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Re: work references
can anybody advice us on our situation we have applied for 175 visa but we are having problems with a work reference. from one of my employers i worked for this employer for 4years. i have asked the company if they would kindly do a letter stating my employment dates and duties. they have refused we are now in limbo we have rang the tax office asking them if they would send us proof of income that i worked there the only thing other then the tax proof is people that still work at this company please can any one advice please
Jun 29th 2009, 6:58 pm
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Re: work references
Jen,
I would get references from all your previous teaching jobs. As you may need them to get the right pay scale here.
Hubby was told (in WA) without them he would start at the bottom of the payscale
Not good if you have been teaching many years, was a right pain to get references from 12years ago.
Gems
I would get references from all your previous teaching jobs. As you may need them to get the right pay scale here.
Hubby was told (in WA) without them he would start at the bottom of the payscale
Not good if you have been teaching many years, was a right pain to get references from 12years ago.
Gems
Jun 29th 2009, 7:41 pm
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Re: work references
Hi,
I have applied 176(VIC state) visa under computing professional 2231-79 (nec) on May, 2009. I worked in usa under H1B working visa as software consultant from January, 2008 to May, 2009. Totally I have 5 years experience in India and usa. After I applied for Australia I lost my job in usa, since its hard to find job in usa now, I came to india for a vacation on 2nd of June, 2009. Will this situation effect to my DIAC application under 176? Still no CO assigned. What I have to do when CO assigned? I have attached one pay stub from last employer and detailed reference letter. Do I have to find job in india and get refernec letter from new job and let DIAC know it.
I would like to hear from people and appreciate any advice and suggestion.
Thanks in Advance,
Ajay
I have applied 176(VIC state) visa under computing professional 2231-79 (nec) on May, 2009. I worked in usa under H1B working visa as software consultant from January, 2008 to May, 2009. Totally I have 5 years experience in India and usa. After I applied for Australia I lost my job in usa, since its hard to find job in usa now, I came to india for a vacation on 2nd of June, 2009. Will this situation effect to my DIAC application under 176? Still no CO assigned. What I have to do when CO assigned? I have attached one pay stub from last employer and detailed reference letter. Do I have to find job in india and get refernec letter from new job and let DIAC know it.
I would like to hear from people and appreciate any advice and suggestion.
Thanks in Advance,
Ajay
Jun 29th 2009, 8:44 pm
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Re: work references
For those applying from the UK: stop calling it a "reference". That word has a very specific meaning in the UK and most UK employers willl refuse to give a "reference". (Their lawyer will have told them never to give a reference.)
Instead: Firstly, type it yourself! Secondly, present it to your employer and tell them that DIAC require a verification letter stating your length of employment, salary, duties and responsibilities - you have drafted something and would they mind printing it on letterheaded paper and signing it. Also, DIAC might phone them to confirm the letter is genuine.
You will find employers are much more agreeable to that, then if you rock up and say Can I please have a reference.
(And I don't think DIAC call it a "reference" either. They used to call it an "employer's statement" when we did our visa app.)
Instead: Firstly, type it yourself! Secondly, present it to your employer and tell them that DIAC require a verification letter stating your length of employment, salary, duties and responsibilities - you have drafted something and would they mind printing it on letterheaded paper and signing it. Also, DIAC might phone them to confirm the letter is genuine.
You will find employers are much more agreeable to that, then if you rock up and say Can I please have a reference.
(And I don't think DIAC call it a "reference" either. They used to call it an "employer's statement" when we did our visa app.)
Jun 29th 2009, 9:18 pm
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Re: work references
For those applying from the UK: stop calling it a "reference". That word has a very specific meaning in the UK and most UK employers willl refuse to give a "reference". (Their lawyer will have told them never to give a reference.)
Instead: Firstly, type it yourself! Secondly, present it to your employer and tell them that DIAC require a verification letter stating your length of employment, salary, duties and responsibilities - you have drafted something and would they mind printing it on letterheaded paper and signing it. Also, DIAC might phone them to confirm the letter is genuine.
You will find employers are much more agreeable to that, then if you rock up and say Can I please have a reference.
(And I don't think DIAC call it a "reference" either. They used to call it an "employer's statement" when we did our visa app.)
Instead: Firstly, type it yourself! Secondly, present it to your employer and tell them that DIAC require a verification letter stating your length of employment, salary, duties and responsibilities - you have drafted something and would they mind printing it on letterheaded paper and signing it. Also, DIAC might phone them to confirm the letter is genuine.
You will find employers are much more agreeable to that, then if you rock up and say Can I please have a reference.
(And I don't think DIAC call it a "reference" either. They used to call it an "employer's statement" when we did our visa app.)
Include as much of the following evidence as possible:
- Detailed work references showing duties, duration of employment and signed by your manager,
- Pay slips covering the period of claimed work experience,
- Bank statements showing payment of salaries into personal bank accounts
- Taxation Documents
Jun 29th 2009, 9:40 pm
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Re: work references
For those applying from the UK: stop calling it a "reference". That word has a very specific meaning in the UK and most UK employers willl refuse to give a "reference". (Their lawyer will have told them never to give a reference.)
Instead: Firstly, type it yourself! Secondly, present it to your employer and tell them that DIAC require a verification letter stating your length of employment, salary, duties and responsibilities - you have drafted something and would they mind printing it on letterheaded paper and signing it. Also, DIAC might phone them to confirm the letter is genuine.
You will find employers are much more agreeable to that, then if you rock up and say Can I please have a reference.
(And I don't think DIAC call it a "reference" either. They used to call it an "employer's statement" when we did our visa app.)
Instead: Firstly, type it yourself! Secondly, present it to your employer and tell them that DIAC require a verification letter stating your length of employment, salary, duties and responsibilities - you have drafted something and would they mind printing it on letterheaded paper and signing it. Also, DIAC might phone them to confirm the letter is genuine.
You will find employers are much more agreeable to that, then if you rock up and say Can I please have a reference.
(And I don't think DIAC call it a "reference" either. They used to call it an "employer's statement" when we did our visa app.)
Jun 29th 2009, 9:45 pm
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Re: work references
Yes, I know that's what it is! But you are not using it to get another job, are you? And you're not asking your employer to say whether you were a decent worker. You are using it to get yourself a visa. And the simple fact is, you stand more of a chance of getting the document (and hence the visa) if you don't call it a "reference" in front of your employer. Just a thought.
Jun 29th 2009, 10:32 pm
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Re: work references
Yes, I know that's what it is! But you are not using it to get another job, are you? And you're not asking your employer to say whether you were a decent worker. You are using it to get yourself a visa. And the simple fact is, you stand more of a chance of getting the document (and hence the visa) if you don't call it a "reference" in front of your employer. Just a thought.
Jun 29th 2009, 10:38 pm
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Re: work references
Ajay... what I understood from u r query is u r staying in INDIA and working for US based company...then Definitly this will not affect on u r 176 visa. if & only if u have not given any kind of written contract / bond to that company.
Generally, if u r free from constraints with company. it does not have any kind of effects on u r application.
CHeers..!
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Jun 29th 2009, 10:51 pm
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Re: work references
It's neither illegal nor immoral to refuse to supply an employee with a reference. Neither is it your right to get a reference. Many companies have policies where they do not provide references for any number of reasons; security issues, government agencies, nature of the work done, etc.
Jun 29th 2009, 11:12 pm
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Re: work references
It's neither illegal nor immoral to refuse to supply an employee with a reference. Neither is it your right to get a reference. Many companies have policies where they do not provide references for any number of reasons; security issues, government agencies, nature of the work done, etc.
even my company people have rejected me to give the reference letter...but my manager said u can give phone nos if really required for any enquiry...
but some how I have some other reference doc for proof....
Cheers!
Jun 30th 2009, 9:52 am
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Re: work references
Can I ask, my last boss, well, we've not spoken since I left in 2004, she's a right MOO....in all honesty I'm not keen on approaching her to get a reference or letter outlining my duties in that school. Could I instead just write them myself, obviously telling the truth, and just get a Statutory Declaration done? Is a SD an expensive thing or? I'm just not keen on approaching her as she is plain and simple, not a nice person and has treated me, and other staff in a very unprofessional manner in the past, nuff said! hmmmmm 
Jun 30th 2009, 10:09 am
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Re: work references
Can I ask, my last boss, well, we've not spoken since I left in 2004, she's a right MOO....in all honesty I'm not keen on approaching her to get a reference or letter outlining my duties in that school. Could I instead just write them myself, obviously telling the truth, and just get a Statutory Declaration done? Is a SD an expensive thing or? I'm just not keen on approaching her as she is plain and simple, not a nice person and has treated me, and other staff in a very unprofessional manner in the past, nuff said! hmmmmm
We wrote all our own "references", then emailed them to previous employers (20 years worth and a lot of job changes cos he's a chef!!) with a quick note explianing what we were doing and would they mind printing it out onto headed paper, signing and returning by post please????? It took a while but we got there in the end. We also has to do a few stat dec's since one employer is now deceased - again we wrote this out, went to a solicitor's in Main St. Bangor and was charged £5 for them to verify it. The same as with the stat dec for my ex-husband to sign - he had to come with me for that one.
HTH
Lynn xx
Jun 30th 2009, 10:14 am
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Re: work references
Can I ask, my last boss, well, we've not spoken since I left in 2004, she's a right MOO....in all honesty I'm not keen on approaching her to get a reference or letter outlining my duties in that school. Could I instead just write them myself, obviously telling the truth, and just get a Statutory Declaration done? Is a SD an expensive thing or? I'm just not keen on approaching her as she is plain and simple, not a nice person and has treated me, and other staff in a very unprofessional manner in the past, nuff said! hmmmmm
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