winter in Australia (cold?)
Apr 14th 2003, 6:36 am
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winter in Australia (cold?)
My friend left a few months ago Poland and now lives in Adelaide.
One of his impressions was that there is no heating in houses in Australia
and in winter it can be quite cold inside. Remeber that he comes from
Poland and knows well what is "cold".
Tell me what do You think about it. Is it really uncomfortable?
Especially for people in Melbourne which is a little bit colder than
Adelaide IMHO.
Spocit
Poland
One of his impressions was that there is no heating in houses in Australia
and in winter it can be quite cold inside. Remeber that he comes from
Poland and knows well what is "cold".
Tell me what do You think about it. Is it really uncomfortable?
Especially for people in Melbourne which is a little bit colder than
Adelaide IMHO.
Spocit
Poland
Apr 14th 2003, 6:48 am
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Re: winter in Australia (cold?)
Yes it can be cold at night in Adelaide, my rellies use a wood burning stove
in the rumpus room..
Paul
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> My friend left a few months ago Poland and now lives in Adelaide.
> One of his impressions was that there is no heating in houses in Australia
> and in winter it can be quite cold inside. Remeber that he comes from
> Poland and knows well what is "cold".
> Tell me what do You think about it. Is it really uncomfortable?
> Especially for people in Melbourne which is a little bit colder than
> Adelaide IMHO.
> Spocit
> Poland
in the rumpus room..
Paul
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> My friend left a few months ago Poland and now lives in Adelaide.
> One of his impressions was that there is no heating in houses in Australia
> and in winter it can be quite cold inside. Remeber that he comes from
> Poland and knows well what is "cold".
> Tell me what do You think about it. Is it really uncomfortable?
> Especially for people in Melbourne which is a little bit colder than
> Adelaide IMHO.
> Spocit
> Poland
Apr 14th 2003, 7:31 am
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Re: winter in Australia (cold?)
In spocit wrote:
> My friend left a few months ago Poland and now lives in Adelaide.
> One of his impressions was that there is no heating in houses in
> Australia and in winter it can be quite cold inside. Remeber that he
> comes from Poland and knows well what is "cold". Tell me what do You
> think about it. Is it really uncomfortable? Especially for people in
> Melbourne which is a little bit colder than Adelaide IMHO.
A friend of mine just moved down from Darwin to Adelaide
and she's moaning that the 20C there now is too cold.
> My friend left a few months ago Poland and now lives in Adelaide.
> One of his impressions was that there is no heating in houses in
> Australia and in winter it can be quite cold inside. Remeber that he
> comes from Poland and knows well what is "cold". Tell me what do You
> think about it. Is it really uncomfortable? Especially for people in
> Melbourne which is a little bit colder than Adelaide IMHO.
A friend of mine just moved down from Darwin to Adelaide
and she's moaning that the 20C there now is too cold.
Apr 14th 2003, 9:10 am
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Re: winter in Australia (cold?)
You can get heating installed in homes. I have the Gas in the living rooms,
Electric in the bed rooms and a must a small fire place for the romantic
nights.................Um!
ED
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> My friend left a few months ago Poland and now lives in Adelaide.
> One of his impressions was that there is no heating in houses in Australia
> and in winter it can be quite cold inside. Remeber that he comes from
> Poland and knows well what is "cold".
> Tell me what do You think about it. Is it really uncomfortable?
> Especially for people in Melbourne which is a little bit colder than
> Adelaide IMHO.
> Spocit
> Poland
Electric in the bed rooms and a must a small fire place for the romantic
nights.................Um!
ED
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> My friend left a few months ago Poland and now lives in Adelaide.
> One of his impressions was that there is no heating in houses in Australia
> and in winter it can be quite cold inside. Remeber that he comes from
> Poland and knows well what is "cold".
> Tell me what do You think about it. Is it really uncomfortable?
> Especially for people in Melbourne which is a little bit colder than
> Adelaide IMHO.
> Spocit
> Poland
Apr 14th 2003, 11:07 am
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Re: winter in Australia (cold?)
Originally posted by Spocit
My friend left a few months ago Poland and now lives in Adelaide.
One of his impressions was that there is no heating in houses in Australia
and in winter it can be quite cold inside. Remeber that he comes from
Poland and knows well what is "cold".
Tell me what do You think about it. Is it really uncomfortable?
Especially for people in Melbourne which is a little bit colder than
Adelaide IMHO.
Spocit
Poland
My friend left a few months ago Poland and now lives in Adelaide.
One of his impressions was that there is no heating in houses in Australia
and in winter it can be quite cold inside. Remeber that he comes from
Poland and knows well what is "cold".
Tell me what do You think about it. Is it really uncomfortable?
Especially for people in Melbourne which is a little bit colder than
Adelaide IMHO.
Spocit
Poland
People from cold climates and workers used to heating / air conditioning will find unheated Adelaide houses cold in winter because their ability to adjust their metabolism has atrophied.
Apr 14th 2003, 12:23 pm
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It hardly ever goes to negative temperatures, it seems - I spent all of winter last year checking out the weather in Melbourne on Yahoo weather, and it was around +5º C or so when it was cold. Considering that where I live in Brazil was around -7ºC at that same time, it can't be that bad indoors. I am more concerned with how windy it is gonna be outdoors.
Apr 14th 2003, 12:24 pm
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> For people used to working outside no heating is needed in Adelaide
> because these people can adjust their personal thermostat. It would be a
> rare night when the temperature inside the house dropped below 10C.
You're joking I hope.
Do You want to tell me that temperature 10C or little higher inside the
house
is no problem for millions of Australian citizens?
Spocit
> because these people can adjust their personal thermostat. It would be a
> rare night when the temperature inside the house dropped below 10C.
You're joking I hope.
Do You want to tell me that temperature 10C or little higher inside the
house
is no problem for millions of Australian citizens?
Spocit
Apr 14th 2003, 1:11 pm
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> > For people used to working outside no heating is needed in Adelaide
> > because these people can adjust their personal thermostat. It would be a
> > rare night when the temperature inside the house dropped below 10C.
> You're joking I hope.
> Do You want to tell me that temperature 10C or little higher inside the
> house
> is no problem for millions of Australian citizens?
well if it's 10 - 12 degrees inside, you put the heater on. Just need an oil
or gas heater bring it back up to a comfortable 20. Central heating is more
common in VIC as far as i know.
Rod.
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> > For people used to working outside no heating is needed in Adelaide
> > because these people can adjust their personal thermostat. It would be a
> > rare night when the temperature inside the house dropped below 10C.
> You're joking I hope.
> Do You want to tell me that temperature 10C or little higher inside the
> house
> is no problem for millions of Australian citizens?
well if it's 10 - 12 degrees inside, you put the heater on. Just need an oil
or gas heater bring it back up to a comfortable 20. Central heating is more
common in VIC as far as i know.
Rod.
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Apr 14th 2003, 1:23 pm
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Re: winter in Australia (cold?)
My husband is from Sydney and he used a space heater and dressed warm.
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> > > For people used to working outside no heating is needed in Adelaide
> > > because these people can adjust their personal thermostat. It would be
a
> > > rare night when the temperature inside the house dropped below 10C.
> >
> > You're joking I hope.
> > Do You want to tell me that temperature 10C or little higher inside the
> > house
> > is no problem for millions of Australian citizens?
> well if it's 10 - 12 degrees inside, you put the heater on. Just need an
oil
> or gas heater bring it back up to a comfortable 20. Central heating is
more
> common in VIC as far as i know.
> Rod.
> >
> > Spocit
> >
> >
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> > > For people used to working outside no heating is needed in Adelaide
> > > because these people can adjust their personal thermostat. It would be
a
> > > rare night when the temperature inside the house dropped below 10C.
> >
> > You're joking I hope.
> > Do You want to tell me that temperature 10C or little higher inside the
> > house
> > is no problem for millions of Australian citizens?
> well if it's 10 - 12 degrees inside, you put the heater on. Just need an
oil
> or gas heater bring it back up to a comfortable 20. Central heating is
more
> common in VIC as far as i know.
> Rod.
> >
> > Spocit
> >
> >
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Apr 14th 2003, 1:43 pm
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In Megalania wrote:
> People from cold climates and workers used to heating / air
> conditioning will find unheated Adelaide houses cold in winter because
> their ability to adjust their metabolism has atrophied.
You've lost me there.
Why would people from cold climates feel it worse, than say
a native of Adelaide ?. Maybe if you explain it, the logic might
make sense, but for me, moving to South Australia next month
from the UK, I expect to feel warmer out there than the locals
do. I'll probably be in shorts when they're in hats and scarves.
> People from cold climates and workers used to heating / air
> conditioning will find unheated Adelaide houses cold in winter because
> their ability to adjust their metabolism has atrophied.
You've lost me there.
Why would people from cold climates feel it worse, than say
a native of Adelaide ?. Maybe if you explain it, the logic might
make sense, but for me, moving to South Australia next month
from the UK, I expect to feel warmer out there than the locals
do. I'll probably be in shorts when they're in hats and scarves.
Apr 14th 2003, 1:56 pm
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> It hardly ever goes to negative temperatures, it seems - I spent all of
> winter last year checking out the weather in Melbourne on Yahoo weather,
> and it was around +5º C or so when it was cold. Considering that where I
> live in Brazil was around -7ºC at that same time, it can't be that bad
> indoors. I am more concerned with how windy it is gonna be outdoors.
Impression of my friends is that the Australian houses are built MUCH WORSE
than Polish ones and they have no heating in standard. Believe me that
people
that live comfortable in Poland while -25C outdoors (+20C indoors) now
feel terrible in Australia when there is +10C outdoor (and close to it
indoors).
I can't imagine what if temperature is below freezing.
I think about moving to Melbourne, but don't want to go through such a
horror
like getting cold in own home.
Spocit
> winter last year checking out the weather in Melbourne on Yahoo weather,
> and it was around +5º C or so when it was cold. Considering that where I
> live in Brazil was around -7ºC at that same time, it can't be that bad
> indoors. I am more concerned with how windy it is gonna be outdoors.
Impression of my friends is that the Australian houses are built MUCH WORSE
than Polish ones and they have no heating in standard. Believe me that
people
that live comfortable in Poland while -25C outdoors (+20C indoors) now
feel terrible in Australia when there is +10C outdoor (and close to it
indoors).
I can't imagine what if temperature is below freezing.
I think about moving to Melbourne, but don't want to go through such a
horror
like getting cold in own home.
Spocit
Apr 14th 2003, 2:31 pm
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> > It hardly ever goes to negative temperatures, it seems - I spent all of
> > winter last year checking out the weather in Melbourne on Yahoo weather,
> > and it was around +5º C or so when it was cold. Considering that where I
> > live in Brazil was around -7ºC at that same time, it can't be that bad
> > indoors. I am more concerned with how windy it is gonna be outdoors.
> Impression of my friends is that the Australian houses are built MUCH
WORSE
> than Polish ones
Explain?
>and they have no heating in standard. Believe me that
> people
> that live comfortable in Poland while -25C outdoors (+20C indoors) now
> feel terrible in Australia when there is +10C outdoor (and close to it
> indoors).
Cant they afford a heater?
> I can't imagine what if temperature is below freezing.
It's not, Unless you choose to live at Thredbo etc
> I think about moving to Melbourne, but don't want to go through such a
> horror
> like getting cold in own home.
Duh!. Buy a bloody heater!!
Rod.
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> > It hardly ever goes to negative temperatures, it seems - I spent all of
> > winter last year checking out the weather in Melbourne on Yahoo weather,
> > and it was around +5º C or so when it was cold. Considering that where I
> > live in Brazil was around -7ºC at that same time, it can't be that bad
> > indoors. I am more concerned with how windy it is gonna be outdoors.
> Impression of my friends is that the Australian houses are built MUCH
WORSE
> than Polish ones
Explain?
>and they have no heating in standard. Believe me that
> people
> that live comfortable in Poland while -25C outdoors (+20C indoors) now
> feel terrible in Australia when there is +10C outdoor (and close to it
> indoors).
Cant they afford a heater?
> I can't imagine what if temperature is below freezing.
It's not, Unless you choose to live at Thredbo etc
> I think about moving to Melbourne, but don't want to go through such a
> horror
> like getting cold in own home.
Duh!. Buy a bloody heater!!
Rod.
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Apr 14th 2003, 2:48 pm
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> > Impression of my friends is that the Australian houses are built MUCH
> WORSE
> > than Polish ones
> Explain?
The wall are thin and the house doesn't isolate properly inside from
outside.
> >and they have no heating in standard. Believe me that
> > people
> > that live comfortable in Poland while -25C outdoors (+20C indoors) now
> > feel terrible in Australia when there is +10C outdoor (and close to it
> > indoors).
> Cant they afford a heater?
That's good question. I don't understand this situation properly and just
want to ask someone who moved to Oz from country where central
heating is necessary (like Poland, Russia, Sweden, Finland etc.)
> > I can't imagine what if temperature is below freezing.
> It's not, Unless you choose to live at Thredbo etc
They have central heating in Thredbo. I saw it.
> > I think about moving to Melbourne, but don't want to go through such a
> > horror
> > like getting cold in own home.
> Duh!. Buy a bloody heater!!
I think I will :-)
Spocit
> WORSE
> > than Polish ones
> Explain?
The wall are thin and the house doesn't isolate properly inside from
outside.
> >and they have no heating in standard. Believe me that
> > people
> > that live comfortable in Poland while -25C outdoors (+20C indoors) now
> > feel terrible in Australia when there is +10C outdoor (and close to it
> > indoors).
> Cant they afford a heater?
That's good question. I don't understand this situation properly and just
want to ask someone who moved to Oz from country where central
heating is necessary (like Poland, Russia, Sweden, Finland etc.)
> > I can't imagine what if temperature is below freezing.
> It's not, Unless you choose to live at Thredbo etc
They have central heating in Thredbo. I saw it.
> > I think about moving to Melbourne, but don't want to go through such a
> > horror
> > like getting cold in own home.
> Duh!. Buy a bloody heater!!
I think I will :-)
Spocit
Apr 14th 2003, 3:13 pm
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> > > Impression of my friends is that the Australian houses are built MUCH
> > WORSE
> > > than Polish ones
> >
> > Explain?
> The wall are thin and the house doesn't isolate properly inside from
> outside.
Well I'd imagine houses are built differently everywhere in the world. Built
to conditions. I mean, there's a good chance that if it was possible to
shift a polish house to Melbourne. It would probably fall apart in a year.
Same with cars. The very first Ford Falcon released here back in the early
60's was made to USA specs, and sure enough it fell apart within 12 months.
> >
> > Cant they afford a heater?
> That's good question. I don't understand this situation properly and just
> want to ask someone who moved to Oz from country where central
> heating is necessary (like Poland, Russia, Sweden, Finland etc.)
Basically you're gonna need a heater even in Sydney. My opinion is that
central heating is overkill in Sydney. However, Melbourne it's quite handy
but not vital unless your house is huge. My sister had central heating in
her last home in Melbourne and that was great!
> >
> > > I can't imagine what if temperature is below freezing.
> >
> > It's not, Unless you choose to live at Thredbo etc
> They have central heating in Thredbo. I saw it.
Right. But my point is, that it doesn't get to those sub freezing temps in
Melbourne.
> >
> > > I think about moving to Melbourne, but don't want to go through such a
> > > horror
> > > like getting cold in own home.
> >
> > Duh!. Buy a bloody heater!!
> I think I will :-)
Hehe
If the house you move in to has central heating. Good!. If not, you have
other options like gas (if it's connected) wood heaters, reverse cycle air
conditioners (not recommended for their heating ability, they suck actually)
Rod.
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> > > Impression of my friends is that the Australian houses are built MUCH
> > WORSE
> > > than Polish ones
> >
> > Explain?
> The wall are thin and the house doesn't isolate properly inside from
> outside.
Well I'd imagine houses are built differently everywhere in the world. Built
to conditions. I mean, there's a good chance that if it was possible to
shift a polish house to Melbourne. It would probably fall apart in a year.
Same with cars. The very first Ford Falcon released here back in the early
60's was made to USA specs, and sure enough it fell apart within 12 months.
> >
> > Cant they afford a heater?
> That's good question. I don't understand this situation properly and just
> want to ask someone who moved to Oz from country where central
> heating is necessary (like Poland, Russia, Sweden, Finland etc.)
Basically you're gonna need a heater even in Sydney. My opinion is that
central heating is overkill in Sydney. However, Melbourne it's quite handy
but not vital unless your house is huge. My sister had central heating in
her last home in Melbourne and that was great!
> >
> > > I can't imagine what if temperature is below freezing.
> >
> > It's not, Unless you choose to live at Thredbo etc
> They have central heating in Thredbo. I saw it.
Right. But my point is, that it doesn't get to those sub freezing temps in
Melbourne.
> >
> > > I think about moving to Melbourne, but don't want to go through such a
> > > horror
> > > like getting cold in own home.
> >
> > Duh!. Buy a bloody heater!!
> I think I will :-)
Hehe
If the house you move in to has central heating. Good!. If not, you have
other options like gas (if it's connected) wood heaters, reverse cycle air
conditioners (not recommended for their heating ability, they suck actually)
Rod.
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Apr 14th 2003, 10:45 pm
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Re: winter in Australia (cold?)
Originally posted by Rob
In Megalania wrote:
> People from cold climates and workers used to heating / air
> conditioning will find unheated Adelaide houses cold in winter because
> their ability to adjust their metabolism has atrophied.
You've lost me there.
Why would people from cold climates feel it worse, than say
a native of Adelaide ?. Maybe if you explain it, the logic might
make sense, but for me, moving to South Australia next month
from the UK, I expect to feel warmer out there than the locals
do. I'll probably be in shorts when they're in hats and scarves.
In Megalania wrote:
> People from cold climates and workers used to heating / air
> conditioning will find unheated Adelaide houses cold in winter because
> their ability to adjust their metabolism has atrophied.
You've lost me there.
Why would people from cold climates feel it worse, than say
a native of Adelaide ?. Maybe if you explain it, the logic might
make sense, but for me, moving to South Australia next month
from the UK, I expect to feel warmer out there than the locals
do. I'll probably be in shorts when they're in hats and scarves.
A consequence is that they rarely actually experience cold or even cool conditions and their bodies do not adjust to natural changes in temperature by increasing their production of animal heat.
In Adelaide, the risk of death from cold is negligable so people can afford to be less prepared. As a consequence their bodies adjust to the natural variations in temperature.
If your body's has lost this ability to adjust you will need to provide out-of-body heating.