Re: Why do they need SO MUCH information?
 

You are having a dig, and if I remember rightly you did the same last time I was looking at moving to Australia. I did not come here unlawfully, in spite of what you seem to enjoy telling everybody, it is perfectly acceptable to come here on a Tourist Visa to subsequently apply for a Spouse Visa. I was unexpectedly made redundant from my job in Dubai a few months ago so did not have the luxury of living in Dubai for an extended period of time whilst they sorted out my Spouse Visa and son's Citizenship from offshore.

Re: Why do they need SO MUCH information?
 

No it's not - tourist visas are for tourists, and are expected to leave the country. If you came expecting to have a holiday, got made redundant while here, so then decided to apply for your spouse visa that would probably be acceptable.

I must say I don't understand why you had to leave when you lost your job - isn't your husband in Dubai?

Re: Why do they need SO MUCH information?
 

Whilst you may have not been able to sort your spouse visa before coming onshore your children's citizenship could be sorted out years ago. Your son is certainly by now unlawful and your daughter will very likely be marked in the system by DIBP as unlawful despite being an Australian citizen as she entered on a visitor visa. I appreciate you are in a stressful situation and it's natural to be defensive but accepting a modicum of responsibility in this regard would go a long way given you are expecting fellow posters to help you get out of this bind.

Re: Why do they need SO MUCH information?
 

Don't assume you know my mind better than I do. I do not have a dig at posters in tricky positions.
I am actually very sympathetic as you are clearly trying to sort out citizenship and spouse visa issues alone, and while I do not intend to tell you all the reasons WHY I feel sympathetic, as they are not for public consumption, that sympathy is there all the same. That is also why I have continued to try and help - for instance by asking BiP today about the timeline for submitting the 40SP - which you now know does not have to be signed - that fact alone must make things easier with your OH offshore.

It is indeed legal to arrive on a tourist visa, with the intent of being a tourist, and change one's mind once onshore, and I have told more than a dozen posters that in my time.
What is not quite so sensible is your own route - arriving on a tourist visa with the clear intent of applying onshore for a 820/801. Bringing 2 children who should have travelled as Aussies but instead were holding visas - thus creating you problems further down the line. AND waiting until the very last moment to apply for the 820/801 with the result that you ended up on a bridging visa with no work rights because you became illegal.

If you honestly believe that someone who has tried to explain at length such things as the term 'relationship', and the reasons why DIBP need the details of your previous relationships, along with all the info on previous threads, is just 'having a dig' then I am at a loss to know how to actually provide any help and support in the future.

Re: Why do they need SO MUCH information?
 

For a start, how do you know what my intention was? It was actually to spend some time in the country before I committed to staying, having never lived here before. If it wasn't working out I would have returned to London.

It would have taken me about a year to sort out my son's Citizenship from Dubai.

I was told by the Immigration Agent that I had to wait until my Tourist Visa was about to expire before I submitted my application for the Spouse Visa. As it happens, I applied a couple of days before.

I am NOT illegal. Please stop saying that. And please stop posting on my threads. Your 'advice' is not helpful.

Re: Why do they need SO MUCH information?
 

You don't own the thread love ;)

No forum I know of works that way.

It's an open forum thus everyone that contributes has a share.


It's for others to get information from as well as you and the contributors. Thus when someone replies they are also thinking about any potential non-contributing reader of the posts on that particular topic.

From a form filling perspective, it is an interesting topic, hence it's getting a fair bit of attention.







.

Re: Why do they need SO MUCH information?
 

Precisely. And if the information given is not true, then that could also impact other people. It is simply not true to say that it is illegal to come to Aus on a Tourist Visa with the intention of applying for a Spouse Visa. No provision has been made for people already married in the same way as non-married, i.e. Intended Spouse Visa, so the only way they can come is on a Tourist Visa.

I was told that on this forum 7 years ago and it stopped me applying meaning that I spent another 7 years in Dubai when we could have been living here. People trust forums such as these so it's important that - if you assert something as true - that it is indeed true.

Re: Why do they need SO MUCH information?
 

So we received our first bit of good news today: I spoke to the Citizenship Dept who told me that my son's Citizenship had been approved and the Excerpt of Citizenship by Descent will be posted out within the next few days.

I asked her about the photographs and she said that as we had been here less than 4 months, that they would have asked for someone from our previous country to do it anyway. This is in direct contradiction to what the last lady told me, but never mind.

Interestingly, we are still waiting for the Excerpt of Citizenship by Descent for my daughter which we applied for in Dubai 5 years ago.

So to all of you asking why I didn't apply for my Spouse Visa from Dubai... well, there's your answer.

Re: Why do they need SO MUCH information?
 

Well I for one am over your drama queen antics. According to you, everyone else is responsible for your current predicament, everyone except you.

It's DIBP's fault that you're in Australia without work rights, because they don't have an application category to suit you - except they do, you just chose not to utilise it.

Someone on British Expats told you something 7 years ago, so it's their fault that you put yours and your family's lives on hold and didn't move to Australia then - have you even read the site rules?

God knows whose fault it is that you didn't sort out your childrens' passports long ago, but it certainly isn't your fault is it?

And then you have the unmitigated gall to throw a tantrum when a poster who's been nothing but helpful to you dares to suggest that you've made life hard for yourself. As for 'stop posting on my threads' - says it all really, about your sense of entitlement.

As an aside, how did you go with the medical for your spouse visa application? I ask because a few years ago, while you were calling another poster a 'tosser', you said that you had a very serious life-limiting condition, and the medication for that costs GBP£1,500 per month. Unless your condition has gone away, as I hope it has, you should be doing some research into health waivers as you may require one.

That's about it I think. Good luck with your application, and please do try to be a bit nicer to people you expect to help you :)

Re: Why do they need SO MUCH information?
 

That's not true at all, I just don't want anybody else to be misled by inaccurate advice. Given how hard it is to get through to Immigration, forums like this are often the only resource for people looking to emigrate. It is therefore important that advice stated as fact is accurate.

Re: Why do they need SO MUCH information?
 

Which piece of information that you've received is incorrect?

Re: Why do they need SO MUCH information?
 

Okay, enough with the bickering. No-one has the right to tell another poster to stop posting on the threads. If there is an issue, then report it to the mods, and we can have a look at it.

If the bickering continues, I'll lock the thread.

Re: Why do they need SO MUCH information?
 

I would never tell anyone it is illegal to apply onshore for a spouse visa after arriving as a tourist. Because it is not illegal It is not advisable, and there is a matter of intent. Married people have the option to apply offshore, the same as unmarried people do, and many many peple on here have done that.

IIRC correctly you were advised by the forum to ensure that you applied for the spouse visa before your tourist visa expired, in order to get the bridging visa you wanted, with work permissions.

I know that the majority of people on here have far more experience and knowledge than I do when it comes to spouse visas, and immigration in general, so its of no matter whether I post on your threads or not, just ignore me. if you don't like my information. Its a free forum so I shall just keep rambling on and you -- like all the thousands before you will just have to ignore me. It might be of interest to you (if you are still reading) to know that I actually looked to see if I could pm you yesterday, to try and help personally with the issue of signing stuff for your son's citizenship/passport, but no matter. I'm sure others are far more able to assist.

Good luck with your visa journey. I have better threads to post on.

Re: Why do they need SO MUCH information?
 

@Pollyanna, just to clarify, it is extremely difficult to apply for a Spouse Visa offshore whilst living the UAE. I do not know anybody who has had success applying from there. As an example, we are still waiting for confirmation of my daughter's Citizenship which we applied for in the UAE, 5 years ago.

I did apply for my Spouse Visa before my Tourist Visa expired. That is not why I didn't get Permission to Work.

Re: Why do they need SO MUCH information?
 

I have reported one of the posts on this thread, but nothing has happened. I would rather you deleted the entire thread as it is causing me a lot of anguish in an already stressful situation. Thank you.

Re: Why do they need SO MUCH information?
 

The post has been seen. Reporting posts of concern is important, but you need to be aware that no action will be taken if there is no issue with the post. The issue that I have taken exception to is the bickering, in that post, and others. Hence the comment about no more bickering.

Re: Why do they need SO MUCH information?
 

Ths is not twitter.

You applied the day before it expired.When you had been gaining advice and information since 2009 do you not think that was a bit chancy? If they do not look at it in those few hoursyou enter a world of hurt.

However. I have looked at your posts and I have been telling you about the issue of intent (ot legality) when entering on tourist to apply for spouse onshore ever since your first post. As always I went out of my way to help to the best of my ability.
Enough already. Leaving the building.

Re: Why do they need SO MUCH information?
 

If FREE advice is causing so much anguish, might I suggest you engage the services of a MARA registered migration agent instead? They can give you all the information you need to lodge an application with none of the "unhelpful" or "untrue" facts the very generous posters here have provided.

You might want to try being a little more grateful for the many people on this site who have taken the time to help you with your problems (which were created by yourself!), rather than being so abrasive in your replies.

On that note I shall unsubscribe from this thread. Good luck with your journey. I have a feeling you're going to need it.

Re: Why do they need SO MUCH information?
 

There is an issue with the post; please kindly remove it. In fact, I again ask you to delete the thread. Thank you.

Re: Why do they need SO MUCH information?
 

No. The thread, minus the squabbles, may be useful to other posters. The thread & post stay. It is not BE policy to delete threads, etc., unless absolutely necessary.

Re: Why do they need SO MUCH information?
 

Threads and posts are not ordinarily deleted unless they somehow contravene our site rules.

Several posters have given of their free time to offer advice and help so it will remain. It is up to the OP now what she does with the information.

As suggested perhaps a MARA agent is the way to go.

It does not seem that there is anything further to be gained here . So as the thread has run its course it will now be closed.

Thanks everyone for contributing and trying to help.