Whats with TRA?
Nov 26th 2004, 12:09 am
#46
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Re: Whats with TRA?
Originally Posted by bridiej
Today I have learned of yet another failure saying "not enough information"
What the **** is going on???
What the **** is going on???
Are they loosing pages from the applications?
Nov 26th 2004, 12:14 am
#47
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Re: Whats with TRA?
My initial draft for TRA fell well short of the recommendations according to my agent (Glenn Newton). I thougt that it was fine but after re-vamping my documents and adding loads more info, Glenn is now confident of a pass.
Think you need to do pages and pages of your work history and tell it like a story!
Think you need to do pages and pages of your work history and tell it like a story!
Originally Posted by bridiej
Not sure.
It seems crazy though that Oz is saying they're desperate for trades yet they keep failing people.
It is quite reassuring that at least there is nothing wrong with us, but surely some serious arse kicking is called for!
It seems crazy though that Oz is saying they're desperate for trades yet they keep failing people.
It is quite reassuring that at least there is nothing wrong with us, but surely some serious arse kicking is called for!
Nov 26th 2004, 12:34 am
#48
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Re: Whats with TRA?
We did all that, it seems to be the references they are on about every time.
I dont know what they want from us, half a pound of flesh by the sounds of it!!!!
I dont know what they want from us, half a pound of flesh by the sounds of it!!!!
Nov 26th 2004, 12:48 am
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Re: Whats with TRA?
Originally Posted by Rob Morton-Jone
My initial draft for TRA fell well short of the recommendations according to my agent (Glenn Newton). I thougt that it was fine but after re-vamping my documents and adding loads more info, Glenn is now confident of a pass.
Think you need to do pages and pages of your work history and tell it like a story!
Think you need to do pages and pages of your work history and tell it like a story!
I suppose I'm lucky that I've worked for only one company since starting my apprenticeship here 10 years ago!
Up to now, I've got:
The Initial application filled out
8 continuation pages, mostly of on-the-job training details
An 8 page detailed training plan of my 4 year apprenticeship (signed by the HR director at work)
A summary of my 4 year apprenticeship (time spent at college etc) (signed by the HR director at work)
Details of further education following my apprenticeship (signed by the HR director at work)
List of External training courses attended (signed by the HR director at work)
Proof of employment (signed by the HR director at work)
Job Description (signed by the HR director at work)
Certified copies of certificates, awards, passport, and birth certificate
All together I've got the application form, and 62 pages!! Do you think this will be enough??? .........can I stop now??!!
Just out of interest Rob, how much did you submit?
Regards
Grant
Last edited by GrantP; Nov 26th 2004 at 12:51 am.
Nov 26th 2004, 1:13 am
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Re: Whats with TRA?
Hi Grant
It's quality rather than quantity, just make sure you've explained everything in minute detail - and that the references are very detailed regarding your responsibilities too, as that's what they keep failing people for.
It's quality rather than quantity, just make sure you've explained everything in minute detail - and that the references are very detailed regarding your responsibilities too, as that's what they keep failing people for.
Nov 26th 2004, 1:14 am
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Re: Whats with TRA?
Originally Posted by GrantP
I'm not going through an agent, which could be bad move!!?? It would be nice for someone to say "right, that should be enough!" As it is, I keep going back to it and adding more and more!! ....I really can't stop!! *hahaha*
I suppose I'm lucky that I've worked for only one company since starting my apprenticeship here 10 years ago!
Up to now, I've got:
The Initial application filled out
8 continuation pages, mostly of on-the-job training details
An 8 page detailed training plan of my 4 year apprenticeship (signed by the HR director at work)
A summary of my 4 year apprenticeship (time spent at college etc) (signed by the HR director at work)
Details of further education following my apprenticeship (signed by the HR director at work)
List of External training courses attended (signed by the HR director at work)
Proof of employment (signed by the HR director at work)
Job Description (signed by the HR director at work)
Certified copies of certificates, awards, passport, and birth certificate
All together I've got the application form, and 62 pages!! Do you think this will be enough??? .........can I stop now??!!
Just out of interest Rob, how much did you submit?
Regards
Grant
I suppose I'm lucky that I've worked for only one company since starting my apprenticeship here 10 years ago!
Up to now, I've got:
The Initial application filled out
8 continuation pages, mostly of on-the-job training details
An 8 page detailed training plan of my 4 year apprenticeship (signed by the HR director at work)
A summary of my 4 year apprenticeship (time spent at college etc) (signed by the HR director at work)
Details of further education following my apprenticeship (signed by the HR director at work)
List of External training courses attended (signed by the HR director at work)
Proof of employment (signed by the HR director at work)
Job Description (signed by the HR director at work)
Certified copies of certificates, awards, passport, and birth certificate
All together I've got the application form, and 62 pages!! Do you think this will be enough??? .........can I stop now??!!
Just out of interest Rob, how much did you submit?
Regards
Grant
Sasha
Nov 26th 2004, 1:25 am
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Re: Whats with TRA?
Originally Posted by bridiej
Hi Grant
It's quality rather than quantity, just make sure you've explained everything in minute detail - and that the references are very detailed regarding your responsibilities too, as that's what they keep failing people for.
It's quality rather than quantity, just make sure you've explained everything in minute detail - and that the references are very detailed regarding your responsibilities too, as that's what they keep failing people for.
Nov 26th 2004, 1:50 am
#53
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Re: Whats with TRA?
Dont worry too much!
I think the answer is to make sure the ref includes detail too regarding your duties.
Sorry cant help anymore, but not really in a position to offer advice re TRA!
I think the answer is to make sure the ref includes detail too regarding your duties.
Sorry cant help anymore, but not really in a position to offer advice re TRA!
Nov 26th 2004, 2:00 am
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Re: Whats with TRA?
Originally Posted by snappy
Blimey you go for it Grant and don't cut out anything!!!! Did you mention the title of your job though
Sasha
Sasha
"Lazy Bast**d, who spends most of his time on the net" ....oooops, I mean "CNC Programmer"!!
Nov 26th 2004, 2:02 am
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Re: Whats with TRA?
Originally Posted by GrantP
Yeah, the job description has it written right accross the top!
"Lazy Bast**d, who spends most of his time on the net" ....oooops, I mean "CNC Programmer"!!
"Lazy Bast**d, who spends most of his time on the net" ....oooops, I mean "CNC Programmer"!!
Nov 26th 2004, 2:43 am
#56
Potton to the Gold Coast
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Re: Whats with TRA?
I cant remember the total amount of pages but there was around 25 pages of employer references which were very detailed-Four employers in total, plus all my college stuff and certifications, my CV etc...etc...
Originally Posted by GrantP
I'm not going through an agent, which could be bad move!!?? It would be nice for someone to say "right, that should be enough!" As it is, I keep going back to it and adding more and more!! ....I really can't stop!! *hahaha*
I suppose I'm lucky that I've worked for only one company since starting my apprenticeship here 10 years ago!
Up to now, I've got:
The Initial application filled out
8 continuation pages, mostly of on-the-job training details
An 8 page detailed training plan of my 4 year apprenticeship (signed by the HR director at work)
A summary of my 4 year apprenticeship (time spent at college etc) (signed by the HR director at work)
Details of further education following my apprenticeship (signed by the HR director at work)
List of External training courses attended (signed by the HR director at work)
Proof of employment (signed by the HR director at work)
Job Description (signed by the HR director at work)
Certified copies of certificates, awards, passport, and birth certificate
All together I've got the application form, and 62 pages!! Do you think this will be enough??? .........can I stop now??!!
Just out of interest Rob, how much did you submit?
Regards
Grant
I suppose I'm lucky that I've worked for only one company since starting my apprenticeship here 10 years ago!
Up to now, I've got:
The Initial application filled out
8 continuation pages, mostly of on-the-job training details
An 8 page detailed training plan of my 4 year apprenticeship (signed by the HR director at work)
A summary of my 4 year apprenticeship (time spent at college etc) (signed by the HR director at work)
Details of further education following my apprenticeship (signed by the HR director at work)
List of External training courses attended (signed by the HR director at work)
Proof of employment (signed by the HR director at work)
Job Description (signed by the HR director at work)
Certified copies of certificates, awards, passport, and birth certificate
All together I've got the application form, and 62 pages!! Do you think this will be enough??? .........can I stop now??!!
Just out of interest Rob, how much did you submit?
Regards
Grant
Nov 26th 2004, 8:45 am
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Re: Whats with TRA?
Originally Posted by bridiej
Congrats on the pass!!!
I'll do ANYTHING for the pass result.......
I'll do ANYTHING for the pass result.......
Kay
Nov 26th 2004, 9:10 pm
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Re: Whats with TRA?
Hi Kay
We're going to submit a new application - not too bad as luckily I saved all our work on the PC so dont have to start literally from scratch.
Should get some news from my agent on Monday as to how to proceed and what needs amending on the employers refs.
Bx
We're going to submit a new application - not too bad as luckily I saved all our work on the PC so dont have to start literally from scratch.
Should get some news from my agent on Monday as to how to proceed and what needs amending on the employers refs.
Bx
Nov 27th 2004, 2:41 am
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Re: Whats with TRA?
Originally Posted by bridiej
Hi Kay
We're going to submit a new application - not too bad as luckily I saved all our work on the PC so dont have to start literally from scratch.
Should get some news from my agent on Monday as to how to proceed and what needs amending on the employers refs.
Bx
We're going to submit a new application - not too bad as luckily I saved all our work on the PC so dont have to start literally from scratch.
Should get some news from my agent on Monday as to how to proceed and what needs amending on the employers refs.
Bx
Kay
Nov 27th 2004, 4:58 am
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Re: Whats with TRA?
Originally Posted by Professional Princess
I do wonder just what you have to do for a TRA pass.
Sleep with them perhaps?
Invite them for a roast dinner?
Pay them handsomely?
Buy them presents?
Just what does it take to make TRA man happy?
Sleep with them perhaps?
Invite them for a roast dinner?
Pay them handsomely?
Buy them presents?
Just what does it take to make TRA man happy?
