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Originally Posted by welshtony
Yes, we have common DNA, but that's all. That post was from over a year ago and reflected the policy of DIMIA at that time.
Whether it is in the PAMS or not, it is DIMIA policy from 01 August 2005. End of story.
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Whether it is in the PAMS or not, it is DIMIA policy from 01 August 2005. End of story.
Tony
Actually according to Katherine in Central Office it started from 1 August since it's a beneficial change, but according to a regional manager at the ASPC who I also checked with today, it's only effective from 1 November.
However, I think the very interesting part is that as I read the new PAMS, any lecturer can be treated as working within the field they're lecturing in.
This is the new text of the PAMS on this issue:
44.7 Academic occupations
Employment as a university lecturer, tutor or in a training capacity, must be in a skilled occupation that is on the Skilled Occupations List. Employment as a lecturer, tutor or in a training capacity need not be in the same or a similar field in which the applicant has obtained a skills assessment. For example, an applicant may obtain a skill assessment as a Software Designer but their work experience is as a Computing Professional (not elsewhere classified) (ASCO 2231-79) under which IT lecturer is a specialisation. Alternatively, a person may have obtained a skill assessment as an accountant (ASCO 2211-11) but their employment is lecturing in Human Resource Management (ASCO 1213-11).
It should be noted that University Lecturer and University Tutor are not on the SOL. Hence an applicant must demonstrate that they are lecturing, tutoring or training people in an occupation that is on the SOL. Hence work experience lecturing in philosophy cannot be accepted as ‘philosopher’ is not an occupation on the SOL.
A lecturer or tutor must be receiving remuneration. This could include a tax free scholarship plus provision of accommodation.
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George Lombard
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Originally Posted by George Lombard
Hi Tony,
Actually according to Katherine in Central Office it started from 1 August since it's a beneficial change, but according to a regional manager at the ASPC who I also checked with today, it's only effective from 1 November.
However, I think the very interesting part is that as I read the new PAMS, any lecturer can be treated as working within the field they're lecturing in.
This is the new text of the PAMS on this issue:
44.7 Academic occupations
Employment as a university lecturer, tutor or in a training capacity, must be in a skilled occupation that is on the Skilled Occupations List. Employment as a lecturer, tutor or in a training capacity need not be in the same or a similar field in which the applicant has obtained a skills assessment. For example, an applicant may obtain a skill assessment as a Software Designer but their work experience is as a Computing Professional (not elsewhere classified) (ASCO 2231-79) under which IT lecturer is a specialisation. Alternatively, a person may have obtained a skill assessment as an accountant (ASCO 2211-11) but their employment is lecturing in Human Resource Management (ASCO 1213-11).
It should be noted that University Lecturer and University Tutor are not on the SOL. Hence an applicant must demonstrate that they are lecturing, tutoring or training people in an occupation that is on the SOL. Hence work experience lecturing in philosophy cannot be accepted as ‘philosopher’ is not an occupation on the SOL.
A lecturer or tutor must be receiving remuneration. This could include a tax free scholarship plus provision of accommodation.
Cheers,
George Lombard
www.austimmigration.com.au
Actually according to Katherine in Central Office it started from 1 August since it's a beneficial change, but according to a regional manager at the ASPC who I also checked with today, it's only effective from 1 November.
However, I think the very interesting part is that as I read the new PAMS, any lecturer can be treated as working within the field they're lecturing in.
This is the new text of the PAMS on this issue:
44.7 Academic occupations
Employment as a university lecturer, tutor or in a training capacity, must be in a skilled occupation that is on the Skilled Occupations List. Employment as a lecturer, tutor or in a training capacity need not be in the same or a similar field in which the applicant has obtained a skills assessment. For example, an applicant may obtain a skill assessment as a Software Designer but their work experience is as a Computing Professional (not elsewhere classified) (ASCO 2231-79) under which IT lecturer is a specialisation. Alternatively, a person may have obtained a skill assessment as an accountant (ASCO 2211-11) but their employment is lecturing in Human Resource Management (ASCO 1213-11).
It should be noted that University Lecturer and University Tutor are not on the SOL. Hence an applicant must demonstrate that they are lecturing, tutoring or training people in an occupation that is on the SOL. Hence work experience lecturing in philosophy cannot be accepted as ‘philosopher’ is not an occupation on the SOL.
A lecturer or tutor must be receiving remuneration. This could include a tax free scholarship plus provision of accommodation.
Cheers,
George Lombard
www.austimmigration.com.au
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Originally Posted by ShozInOz
I am a university lecturer. I got a job with a uni first, and they sponsored me for PR. That is the easiest way to go. But they have to show that they could not recruit from within Australia first.
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Dear Jwatson,
Would be very grateful, if you provide us with more information regarding Group B, as you mentioned.
Tnx
Would be very grateful, if you provide us with more information regarding Group B, as you mentioned.
Tnx
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I went exactly the same way... they sorted most of the paperwork and even paid for relocation. I went as a lecturer level C and a phd or equivalent was a requirment for this position. There are many lecturer level B's who do not have PhDs.
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I think Jay is talking about levels of positions with his B and C - nothing to do with Group B and C guidelines for the ACS assesment.
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Dear Jwatson,
Would be very grateful, if you provide us with more information regarding Group B, as you mentioned.
Tnx
Would be very grateful, if you provide us with more information regarding Group B, as you mentioned.
Tnx
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Thank you Tony,
Same as always fast,helpful and confident :>
Tnx
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Originally Posted by welshtony
I think Jay is talking about levels of positions with his B and C - nothing to do with Group B and C guidelines for the ACS assesment.
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Originally Posted by welshtony
I think Jay is talking about levels of positions with his B and C - nothing to do with Group B and C guidelines for the ACS assesment.
Tony
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I meant to say: If they are offering a lectureship at level 'B' then not having a PhD should not be a big issue to them offering the job. I don't know anything about skills assessment as that was not required (if sponsored for PR) when I came over. However, I would get your skills assessed in advance so that you can mention that there are less hurdles during the phone interview.
I applied for a position that said "only PR's or citizens should apply" and it made no difference so do not let that stop you from putting in your application. If they want you they can get you over. HR departments at Uni's are well setup for this kind of thing.
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Originally Posted by jwatsonoz
I don't know anything about skills assessment as that was not required (if sponsored for PR) when I came over. However, I would get your skills assessed in advance so that you can mention that there are less hurdles during the phone interview.
Rules have changed since then and a skill assessment is normally required for immediate PR under ENS.
On the other hand, "labour market testing" is usually not required other than in exceptional cases.
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Hi,
ACS is the assessing body for IT LECTURER and 6 years IT related experience. I am an IT Instructor also and passed the skills assessment.
Just try to apply ok! GOOD LUCK.....
ACS is the assessing body for IT LECTURER and 6 years IT related experience. I am an IT Instructor also and passed the skills assessment.
Just try to apply ok! GOOD LUCK.....
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