Time of sunset in Brisbane?
Aug 31st 2002, 5:45 pm
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Time of sunset in Brisbane?
I've read a few things about it getting dark early in Brisbane but didn't pay that
much attention to it. Now I've just read a post that suggests it gets dark at 5pm in
winter (that's better than the UK so that's fine) and dark at 7pm in the summer
(which is not good).
Does anyone have any info on this? I can't believe that it gets dark at 7pm. That's
only a 2 hour difference between seasons whereas the UK has around 4 hours difference
even when you discount daylight savings.
Please tell me that I won't be going to country where it's dark all year round when I
get home from work.
Dean
much attention to it. Now I've just read a post that suggests it gets dark at 5pm in
winter (that's better than the UK so that's fine) and dark at 7pm in the summer
(which is not good).
Does anyone have any info on this? I can't believe that it gets dark at 7pm. That's
only a 2 hour difference between seasons whereas the UK has around 4 hours difference
even when you discount daylight savings.
Please tell me that I won't be going to country where it's dark all year round when I
get home from work.
Dean
Aug 31st 2002, 6:36 pm
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Re: Time of sunset in Brisbane?
Hi Dean, Yep, it caught me out on my recent trip to Brissy, couldn't get used to the
fact that it was like an English Summer day (shorts and t-shirt) but was pitch black
by 5.30pm. I have not yet experienced summer over there yet but I'm told that it is
dark by 7pm. This is probably due to the fact that Brisbane is much closer to the
Equator than England so sees very little daylight variation (the opposite applies to
places in the far North and South, 24 hour daylight in Summer and darkness all day in
Winter. Dean (me not you)
"Dean" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]
li.net...
> I've read a few things about it getting dark early in Brisbane but didn't pay that
> much attention to it. Now I've just read a post that suggests it gets dark at 5pm
> in winter (that's better than the UK so that's fine) and dark at 7pm in the summer
> (which is not good).
> Does anyone have any info on this? I can't believe that it gets dark at
7pm.
> That's only a 2 hour difference between seasons whereas the UK has around
4
> hours difference even when you discount daylight savings.
> Please tell me that I won't be going to country where it's dark all year round when
> I get home from work.
> Dean
fact that it was like an English Summer day (shorts and t-shirt) but was pitch black
by 5.30pm. I have not yet experienced summer over there yet but I'm told that it is
dark by 7pm. This is probably due to the fact that Brisbane is much closer to the
Equator than England so sees very little daylight variation (the opposite applies to
places in the far North and South, 24 hour daylight in Summer and darkness all day in
Winter. Dean (me not you)
"Dean" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]
li.net...
> I've read a few things about it getting dark early in Brisbane but didn't pay that
> much attention to it. Now I've just read a post that suggests it gets dark at 5pm
> in winter (that's better than the UK so that's fine) and dark at 7pm in the summer
> (which is not good).
> Does anyone have any info on this? I can't believe that it gets dark at
7pm.
> That's only a 2 hour difference between seasons whereas the UK has around
4
> hours difference even when you discount daylight savings.
> Please tell me that I won't be going to country where it's dark all year round when
> I get home from work.
> Dean
Aug 31st 2002, 6:52 pm
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Re: Time of sunset in Brisbane?
> Hi Dean, Yep, it caught me out on my recent trip to Brissy, couldn't get used to
the
> fact that it was like an English Summer day (shorts and t-shirt) but was pitch
> black by 5.30pm. I have not yet experienced summer over there yet
but
> I'm told that it is dark by 7pm. This is probably due to the fact that Brisbane is
> much closer to the Equator than England so sees very little daylight variation (the
> opposite applies to places in the far North and South, 24 hour daylight in Summer
> and darkness all day in Winter. Dean (me not you)
So it's true then? Mmmm. That will take some getting used to. I looked up some posts
on daylight savings in Queensland on Deja.com which made for some interesting
reading. Talk about heated. It seems that most of the population prefer the dark. I'm
not passing any judgement here but it seems odd to 'want' it to be dark when you get
home from work so you can't enjoy the evening light.
I appreciate the equator logic but with a sunrise of 5am the number of daylight hours
are not really that different only the fact that a whole state prefers to sleep
through the first 2 or 3 of them.
I've never understood this issue even in the UK. If it's dark at 7pm why not go to
work at 7 or 8 am and leave at 3 or 4pm? If everyone does it what's the problem?
The light evenings in the UK are one of the things I look forward to in the summer.
Going out for walks, sitting in the garden etc. aren't the same in the dark.
I'm going to Brisbane to enjoy the differences in our countries not complain about
them but this one did throw me a curved ball. It reminds me of all the farmers in the
UK moaning about daylight saving. Why don't they get up an hour later and go to bed
an hour later? Isn't a clock a human invention anyway? Maybe I'm missing something.
Dean
the
> fact that it was like an English Summer day (shorts and t-shirt) but was pitch
> black by 5.30pm. I have not yet experienced summer over there yet
but
> I'm told that it is dark by 7pm. This is probably due to the fact that Brisbane is
> much closer to the Equator than England so sees very little daylight variation (the
> opposite applies to places in the far North and South, 24 hour daylight in Summer
> and darkness all day in Winter. Dean (me not you)
So it's true then? Mmmm. That will take some getting used to. I looked up some posts
on daylight savings in Queensland on Deja.com which made for some interesting
reading. Talk about heated. It seems that most of the population prefer the dark. I'm
not passing any judgement here but it seems odd to 'want' it to be dark when you get
home from work so you can't enjoy the evening light.
I appreciate the equator logic but with a sunrise of 5am the number of daylight hours
are not really that different only the fact that a whole state prefers to sleep
through the first 2 or 3 of them.
I've never understood this issue even in the UK. If it's dark at 7pm why not go to
work at 7 or 8 am and leave at 3 or 4pm? If everyone does it what's the problem?
The light evenings in the UK are one of the things I look forward to in the summer.
Going out for walks, sitting in the garden etc. aren't the same in the dark.
I'm going to Brisbane to enjoy the differences in our countries not complain about
them but this one did throw me a curved ball. It reminds me of all the farmers in the
UK moaning about daylight saving. Why don't they get up an hour later and go to bed
an hour later? Isn't a clock a human invention anyway? Maybe I'm missing something.
Dean
Aug 31st 2002, 7:11 pm
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Re: Time of sunset in Brisbane?
In <[email protected]> Dean wrote:
> I've read a few things about it getting dark early in Brisbane but didn't pay that
> much attention to it. Now I've just read a post that suggests it gets dark at 5pm
> in winter (that's better than the UK so that's fine) and dark at 7pm in the summer
> (which is not good).
> Does anyone have any info on this? I can't believe that it gets dark at 7pm. That's
> only a 2 hour difference between seasons whereas the UK has around 4 hours
> difference even when you discount daylight savings.
> Please tell me that I won't be going to country where it's dark all year round when
> I get home from work.
Here ya go, and as it says "Make corrections for daylight saving time where
necessary" Taken from http-
://www.auslig.gov.au/geodesy/astro/sunrise.htm
If I read it correctly, the latest sunset in Brisbane is 18:47 + 1 hour for DST, i.e.
a quarter to eight. You get an extra 45 mins before sunset in Adelaide.
It's 8:10pm right now in Wales, UK and the sun is on the horizon (I live by the sea
and get an accurate sunset time). So this isn't too bad IMO.
====
Brisbane Lat= 27°28'00" Long=+153°01'00" TIMES OF SUNRISE AND SUNSET (for ideal
horizon & meteorological conditions) For the year 2002 Time zone: +10.00 hours
Make corrections for daylight saving time where necessary.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
JAN FEB MAR APR MAY JUN rise set
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0547 1721 0608 1657 0630 1655
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1816 0538 1741 0554 1710 0617 1654 0636 1701 27 0509 1840 0524 1815
0539 1740 0555 1709 0618 1653 0636 1701 28 0509 1840 0525 1814 0539
1739 0556 1708 0618 1653 0637 1702
29 0510 1839 0525 1813 0540 1738 0556 1707 0619 1653 0637 1702 30
0510 1839 0526 1812 0540 1736 0557 1707 0620 1653 0638 1703 31 0511
1838 0526 1811 0558 1706 0638 1704
> I've read a few things about it getting dark early in Brisbane but didn't pay that
> much attention to it. Now I've just read a post that suggests it gets dark at 5pm
> in winter (that's better than the UK so that's fine) and dark at 7pm in the summer
> (which is not good).
> Does anyone have any info on this? I can't believe that it gets dark at 7pm. That's
> only a 2 hour difference between seasons whereas the UK has around 4 hours
> difference even when you discount daylight savings.
> Please tell me that I won't be going to country where it's dark all year round when
> I get home from work.
Here ya go, and as it says "Make corrections for daylight saving time where
necessary" Taken from http-
://www.auslig.gov.au/geodesy/astro/sunrise.htm
If I read it correctly, the latest sunset in Brisbane is 18:47 + 1 hour for DST, i.e.
a quarter to eight. You get an extra 45 mins before sunset in Adelaide.
It's 8:10pm right now in Wales, UK and the sun is on the horizon (I live by the sea
and get an accurate sunset time). So this isn't too bad IMO.
====
Brisbane Lat= 27°28'00" Long=+153°01'00" TIMES OF SUNRISE AND SUNSET (for ideal
horizon & meteorological conditions) For the year 2002 Time zone: +10.00 hours
Make corrections for daylight saving time where necessary.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
JAN FEB MAR APR MAY JUN rise set
rise set rise set rise set rise set rise set 1 0638 1704
0635 1728 0613 1748 0539 1805 0509 1821 0453 1838 2 0638 1705
0634 1729 0612 1749 0538 1806 0508 1822 0453 1839 3 0639 1706
0633 1730 0611 1749 0537 1806 0508 1822 0453 1839 4 0639 1707
0633 1731 0610 1750 0536 1807 0507 1823 0453 1840 5 0639 1707
0632 1732 0609 1750 0535 1807 0506 1823 0452 1840 6 0639 1708
0632 1732 0608 1751 0534 1808 0505 1824 0452 1841 7 0639 1709
0631 1733 0607 1752 0532 1808 0505 1825 0452 1841
8 0640 1709 0630 1734 0606 1752 0531 1809 0504 1825 0452 1842 9 0640
1710 0630 1735 0604 1753 0530 1809 0503 1826 0452 1842 10 0640 1711
0629 1735 0603 1753 0529 1810 0503 1826 0452 1842 11 0640 1712 0628
1736 0602 1754 0528 1810 0502 1827 0452 1843 12 0640 1712 0628 1737
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1755 0526 1811 0501 1828 0452 1844 14 0640 1714 0626 1738 0559 1756
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1742 0554 1758 0520 1814 0457 1831 0453 1845 20 0639 1719 0621 1742
0552 1759 0519 1815 0457 1832 0453 1846 21 0639 1720 0620 1743 0551
1759 0518 1816 0457 1833 0453 1846
22 0638 1720 0619 1744 0550 1800 0517 1816 0456 1833 0454 1846 23
0638 1721 0618 1744 0549 1800 0516 1817 0456 1834 0454 1846 24 0638
1722 0618 1745 0548 1801 0515 1817 0455 1834 0454 1847 25 0637 1723
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1746 0546 1802 0513 1818 0455 1835 0455 1847 27 0637 1724 0615 1747
0545 1802 0513 1819 0454 1836 0455 1847 28 0636 1725 0614 1747 0543
1803 0512 1819 0454 1836 0455 1847
29 0636 1726 0542 1803 0511 1820 0454 1837 0456 1847 30
0635 1727 0541 1804 0510 1821 0453 1837 0456 1847 31
0635 1728 0540 1804 0453 1838
JUL AUG SEP OCT NOV DEC rise set
rise set rise set rise set rise set rise set 1 0456 1847
0511 1837 0527 1810 0540 1735 0558 1705 0621 1653 2 0457 1847
0512 1837 0527 1808 0541 1734 0559 1704 0621 1653 3 0457 1847
0512 1836 0528 1807 0541 1733 0600 1704 0622 1653 4 0457 1847
0513 1835 0528 1806 0542 1732 0600 1703 0623 1653 5 0458 1847
0513 1835 0529 1805 0542 1731 0601 1702 0624 1653 6 0458 1847
0514 1834 0529 1804 0543 1730 0602 1702 0624 1653 7 0459 1847
0514 1833 0529 1803 0543 1729 0602 1701 0625 1653
8 0459 1847 0515 1832 0530 1802 0544 1727 0603 1700 0626 1654 9 0459
1847 0515 1832 0530 1801 0545 1726 0604 1700 0626 1654 10 0500 1847
0516 1831 0531 1759 0545 1725 0605 1659 0627 1654 11 0500 1846 0516
1830 0531 1758 0546 1724 0605 1659 0628 1654 12 0501 1846 0517 1829
0532 1757 0546 1723 0606 1658 0628 1655 13 0501 1846 0518 1828 0532
1756 0547 1722 0607 1658 0629 1655 14 0502 1846 0518 1827 0533 1755
0547 1721 0608 1657 0630 1655
15 0502 1845 0519 1827 0533 1754 0548 1720 0608 1657 0630 1655 16
0503 1845 0519 1826 0534 1753 0548 1719 0609 1656 0631 1656 17 0503
1845 0520 1825 0534 1751 0549 1718 0610 1656 0632 1656 18 0504 1844
0520 1824 0534 1750 0549 1717 0611 1656 0632 1657 19 0504 1844 0521
1823 0535 1749 0550 1716 0611 1655 0633 1657 20 0505 1844 0521 1822
0535 1748 0551 1715 0612 1655 0633 1657 21 0505 1843 0522 1821 0536
1747 0551 1714 0613 1655 0634 1658
22 0506 1843 0522 1820 0536 1746 0552 1713 0614 1654 0634 1658 23
0506 1842 0523 1819 0537 1744 0552 1712 0615 1654 0635 1659 24 0507
1842 0523 1818 0537 1743 0553 1712 0615 1654 0635 1659 25 0507 1841
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1816 0538 1741 0554 1710 0617 1654 0636 1701 27 0509 1840 0524 1815
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1739 0556 1708 0618 1653 0637 1702
29 0510 1839 0525 1813 0540 1738 0556 1707 0619 1653 0637 1702 30
0510 1839 0526 1812 0540 1736 0557 1707 0620 1653 0638 1703 31 0511
1838 0526 1811 0558 1706 0638 1704
Aug 31st 2002, 7:34 pm
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Re: Time of sunset in Brisbane?
> Here ya go, and as it says "Make corrections for daylight saving time
where necessary"
> Taken from http://www.au-
> slig.gov.au/geodesy/astro/sunrise.htm
Thanks for the info. I know what you mean about the sunset at this time of year in
the UK. It's fine.
I just look at it from the point of view that one hour of light a day is 5 a week
(don't care about weekends - I'll get up earlier) 20 a month and 220 a year. Not to
be sniffed at.
Dean
where necessary"
> Taken from http://www.au-
> slig.gov.au/geodesy/astro/sunrise.htm
Thanks for the info. I know what you mean about the sunset at this time of year in
the UK. It's fine.
I just look at it from the point of view that one hour of light a day is 5 a week
(don't care about weekends - I'll get up earlier) 20 a month and 220 a year. Not to
be sniffed at.
Dean
Aug 31st 2002, 11:22 pm
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Re: Time of sunset in Brisbane?
Thanks Rob for the link.
However, any people bound for Brisbane should bear in mind that Queensland doesn't
operate Daylight Savings Time. Which is the main reason why it gets dark so much
earlier in Brisbane. In Sydney at the height of summer the sun sets around 8pm
(daylight saving time). Melbourne is further to the west and south, and so gets
daylight until about 8.45pm. The end of civil twilight comes about 30 minutes later.
Different policies on daylight savings result in a 1 hour time difference between
Brisbane and Sydney from late October to late March.
The Northern Territory doesn't operate DST (understandable given that most of its
population is in Darwin). Less understandable is WA, with gives Perth the same
problem of a relatively early sunset in summer (sunset 7.22pm on mid summers day).
Both QLD and WA have voted in referendums not to have DST.
There's information on DST in Australia at: http://www.dstc.qut.edu.au/DST/marg/daylight.html
Jeremy
>In Sat, 31 Aug 2002 19:11:58 +0000 (UTC), rob <[email protected]> wrote:
>In <[email protected]> Dean wrote:
>> I've read a few things about it getting dark early in Brisbane but didn't pay that
>> much attention to it. Now I've just read a post that suggests it gets dark at 5pm
>> in winter (that's better than the UK so that's fine) and dark at 7pm in the summer
>> (which is not good).
>> Does anyone have any info on this? I can't believe that it gets dark at 7pm.
>> That's only a 2 hour difference between seasons whereas the UK has around 4 hours
>> difference even when you discount daylight savings.
>> Please tell me that I won't be going to country where it's dark all year round
>> when I get home from work.
>Here ya go, and as it says "Make corrections for daylight saving time where
>necessary" Taken from htt-
>p://www.auslig.gov.au/geodesy/astro/sunrise.htm
>If I read it correctly, the latest sunset in Brisbane is 18:47 + 1 hour for DST,
>i.e. a quarter to eight. You get an extra 45 mins before sunset in Adelaide.
>It's 8:10pm right now in Wales, UK and the sun is on the horizon (I live by the sea
>and get an accurate sunset time). So this isn't too bad IMO.
However, any people bound for Brisbane should bear in mind that Queensland doesn't
operate Daylight Savings Time. Which is the main reason why it gets dark so much
earlier in Brisbane. In Sydney at the height of summer the sun sets around 8pm
(daylight saving time). Melbourne is further to the west and south, and so gets
daylight until about 8.45pm. The end of civil twilight comes about 30 minutes later.
Different policies on daylight savings result in a 1 hour time difference between
Brisbane and Sydney from late October to late March.
The Northern Territory doesn't operate DST (understandable given that most of its
population is in Darwin). Less understandable is WA, with gives Perth the same
problem of a relatively early sunset in summer (sunset 7.22pm on mid summers day).
Both QLD and WA have voted in referendums not to have DST.
There's information on DST in Australia at: http://www.dstc.qut.edu.au/DST/marg/daylight.html
Jeremy
>In Sat, 31 Aug 2002 19:11:58 +0000 (UTC), rob <[email protected]> wrote:
>In <[email protected]> Dean wrote:
>> I've read a few things about it getting dark early in Brisbane but didn't pay that
>> much attention to it. Now I've just read a post that suggests it gets dark at 5pm
>> in winter (that's better than the UK so that's fine) and dark at 7pm in the summer
>> (which is not good).
>> Does anyone have any info on this? I can't believe that it gets dark at 7pm.
>> That's only a 2 hour difference between seasons whereas the UK has around 4 hours
>> difference even when you discount daylight savings.
>> Please tell me that I won't be going to country where it's dark all year round
>> when I get home from work.
>Here ya go, and as it says "Make corrections for daylight saving time where
>necessary" Taken from htt-
>p://www.auslig.gov.au/geodesy/astro/sunrise.htm
>If I read it correctly, the latest sunset in Brisbane is 18:47 + 1 hour for DST,
>i.e. a quarter to eight. You get an extra 45 mins before sunset in Adelaide.
>It's 8:10pm right now in Wales, UK and the sun is on the horizon (I live by the sea
>and get an accurate sunset time). So this isn't too bad IMO.
Sep 1st 2002, 3:17 am
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Re: Time of sunset in Brisbane?
dotty wrote:
> >. It seems that most of the population prefer the dark. I'm
> not passing any judgement here but it seems odd to 'want' it to be dark when you
> get home from work so you can't enjoy the evening light <.
> On the positive side it is actually light before 5 am, the cooler temps, probably
> low 20,s are between about 2am and 6am, so I just get up then, walk, do housework,
> paperwork, whatever I cant stand to do later. You see heaps of people out gardening
> etc at 5am!, probably sounds a bit funny but it works. Winter here is lovely, the
> humidity goes away for about 3 months and we really enjoy that. Today Sept 1 is
> only the first day of spring and its already 28 degrees with very mild humidity.
Very, unusually, warm. I enjoyed feeling a warm breeze instead of a cold one.
But then, I only count Brisbane as being 'too hot and humid' for about 2-3 weeks
each year.
I asked hubby did he miss evening light and twilight. He looked puzzled (must've been
here too long!). Yes, the sun sets early (and abruptly- no twilights in Brisbane),
but you do get spectacular sunsets, and the early morning light is lovely for walking
the dog, going running, watering the garden, etc.
This Summer I am dreaming of having full airconditioning and plan to stay inside as
much as possible except when I go swimming. Schools
> tho are not airconditioned, its horrible for the poor kids, I really feel
> for them.
Dotty, if you hate the heat so much, and can't afford to go back to the UK, how about
Tasmania? You'd like it much better than Brisbane. What's the point of living in a
sub-tropical climate, and hiding in the aircon?
> Its fun for mums of young kids tho they usually arise with the sun and most
> here are long up by 5am!!! ( Black curtains dont work they hear the birds
> sqwarking). Enjoy!
Nah. 6am usually. Sometimes 7am in winter. So what? Dinner and bed time are early too
for them. You can convince them it's bedtime at 7pm, because it's dark!
LJ
> >. It seems that most of the population prefer the dark. I'm
> not passing any judgement here but it seems odd to 'want' it to be dark when you
> get home from work so you can't enjoy the evening light <.
> On the positive side it is actually light before 5 am, the cooler temps, probably
> low 20,s are between about 2am and 6am, so I just get up then, walk, do housework,
> paperwork, whatever I cant stand to do later. You see heaps of people out gardening
> etc at 5am!, probably sounds a bit funny but it works. Winter here is lovely, the
> humidity goes away for about 3 months and we really enjoy that. Today Sept 1 is
> only the first day of spring and its already 28 degrees with very mild humidity.
Very, unusually, warm. I enjoyed feeling a warm breeze instead of a cold one.
But then, I only count Brisbane as being 'too hot and humid' for about 2-3 weeks
each year.
I asked hubby did he miss evening light and twilight. He looked puzzled (must've been
here too long!). Yes, the sun sets early (and abruptly- no twilights in Brisbane),
but you do get spectacular sunsets, and the early morning light is lovely for walking
the dog, going running, watering the garden, etc.
This Summer I am dreaming of having full airconditioning and plan to stay inside as
much as possible except when I go swimming. Schools
> tho are not airconditioned, its horrible for the poor kids, I really feel
> for them.
Dotty, if you hate the heat so much, and can't afford to go back to the UK, how about
Tasmania? You'd like it much better than Brisbane. What's the point of living in a
sub-tropical climate, and hiding in the aircon?
> Its fun for mums of young kids tho they usually arise with the sun and most
> here are long up by 5am!!! ( Black curtains dont work they hear the birds
> sqwarking). Enjoy!
Nah. 6am usually. Sometimes 7am in winter. So what? Dinner and bed time are early too
for them. You can convince them it's bedtime at 7pm, because it's dark!
LJ
Sep 1st 2002, 6:54 am
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Re: Time of sunset in Brisbane?
>. It seems that most of the population prefer the dark. I'm
not passing any judgement here but it seems odd to 'want' it to be dark when you get
home from work so you can't enjoy the evening light <.
Twice since we have been here they tried to bring in Daylight Saving, the general gripe seems to be, who on earth would want any more hours of heat, when youve already had enough. Not that I really understood that as its still hot when it gets dark. Often any breeze drops too and its still stifling, dark or not.
On the positive side it is actually light before 5 am, the cooler temps, probably low 20,s are between about 2am and 6am, so I just get up then, walk, do housework, paperwork, whatever I cant stand to do later. You see heaps of people out gardening etc at 5am!, probably sounds a bit funny but it works. Winter here is lovely, the humidity goes away for about 3 months and we really enjoy that. Today Sept 1 is only the first day of spring and its already 28 degrees with very mild humidity.
This Summer I am dreaming of having full airconditioning and plan to stay inside as much as possible except when I go swimming. Schools tho are not airconditioned, its horrible for the poor kids, I really feel for them.
Its fun for mums of young kids tho they usually arise with the sun and most here are long up by 5am!!! ( Black curtains dont work they hear the birds sqwarking). Enjoy!
not passing any judgement here but it seems odd to 'want' it to be dark when you get
home from work so you can't enjoy the evening light <.
Twice since we have been here they tried to bring in Daylight Saving, the general gripe seems to be, who on earth would want any more hours of heat, when youve already had enough. Not that I really understood that as its still hot when it gets dark. Often any breeze drops too and its still stifling, dark or not.
On the positive side it is actually light before 5 am, the cooler temps, probably low 20,s are between about 2am and 6am, so I just get up then, walk, do housework, paperwork, whatever I cant stand to do later. You see heaps of people out gardening etc at 5am!, probably sounds a bit funny but it works. Winter here is lovely, the humidity goes away for about 3 months and we really enjoy that. Today Sept 1 is only the first day of spring and its already 28 degrees with very mild humidity.
This Summer I am dreaming of having full airconditioning and plan to stay inside as much as possible except when I go swimming. Schools tho are not airconditioned, its horrible for the poor kids, I really feel for them.
Its fun for mums of young kids tho they usually arise with the sun and most here are long up by 5am!!! ( Black curtains dont work they hear the birds sqwarking). Enjoy!
Sep 1st 2002, 7:01 am
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Re: Time of sunset in Brisbane?
hi, I am born and bred Brisbane lived here for last 8 years in the UK.it gets dark
around 9pm mid summer in winter around 5pm suns up around 5am in summer and around
7am mid winter top city when i grew up in the 60's brissy was just acountry town
atmosphere now just another big city hope this helps brian formely from brissy
"Dean" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]
ntli.net...
> I've read a few things about it getting dark early in Brisbane but didn't pay that
> much attention to it. Now I've just read a post that suggests it gets dark at 5pm
> in winter (that's better than the UK so that's fine) and dark at 7pm in the summer
> (which is not good).
> Does anyone have any info on this? I can't believe that it gets dark at
7pm.
> That's only a 2 hour difference between seasons whereas the UK has around
4
> hours difference even when you discount daylight savings.
> Please tell me that I won't be going to country where it's dark all year round when
> I get home from work.
> Dean
around 9pm mid summer in winter around 5pm suns up around 5am in summer and around
7am mid winter top city when i grew up in the 60's brissy was just acountry town
atmosphere now just another big city hope this helps brian formely from brissy
"Dean" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]
ntli.net...
> I've read a few things about it getting dark early in Brisbane but didn't pay that
> much attention to it. Now I've just read a post that suggests it gets dark at 5pm
> in winter (that's better than the UK so that's fine) and dark at 7pm in the summer
> (which is not good).
> Does anyone have any info on this? I can't believe that it gets dark at
7pm.
> That's only a 2 hour difference between seasons whereas the UK has around
4
> hours difference even when you discount daylight savings.
> Please tell me that I won't be going to country where it's dark all year round when
> I get home from work.
> Dean
Sep 2nd 2002, 3:41 am
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Re: Time of sunset in Brisbane?
rob <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
Thanks for the link - but the chart is wrong.
[chart snipped]
The chart has calculated the times the wrong way around - it states that the sun
rises earlier in July than January. That's not the case - it rises around 4am in
January and around 6am in July. I've copied the actual times below:
Don't worry about the sun setting early (especially in June/July/August). Every day
you can take a lunch-time walk where the sun will shine brightly down to cheer you
up. Yes, you'll probably miss the long evenings - but the weekends will make up for
it. Most people with any sense try to get out and enjoy the weather - winter here
(June-August) has be experienced to be believed.
Good luck! AndyH.
Sunrise & Sunset Results
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BRISBANE Lat=-27°28'00" Long=+153°01'00" TIMES OF SUNRISE AND SUNSET (for ideal
horizon & meteorological conditions) For the year 2001 Time zone: +10.00 hours
Make corrections for daylight saving time where necessary.
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JAN FEB MAR APR MAY JUN rise set rise
set rise set rise set rise set rise set 1 0456 1847 0521 1842
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29 0518 1844 0556 1750 0612 1719 0629 1702 0639 1704 30 0519
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0506 1759 0446 1821 0450 1842
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0533 1746 0502 1802 0445 1825 0452 1845 27 0632 1717 0607 1732 0532
1746 0501 1803 0445 1826 0453 1845 28 0632 1717 0606 1733 0531 1747
0500 1804 0445 1827 0453 1845
29 0631 1718 0605 1733 0530 1747 0459 1804 0445 1828 0454 1846 30 0631
1718 0604 1734 0529 1748 0459 1805 0445 1828 0455 1846 31
0630 1719 0603 1734 0458 1806 0455 1846
news:<[email protected]>...
Thanks for the link - but the chart is wrong.
[chart snipped]
The chart has calculated the times the wrong way around - it states that the sun
rises earlier in July than January. That's not the case - it rises around 4am in
January and around 6am in July. I've copied the actual times below:
Don't worry about the sun setting early (especially in June/July/August). Every day
you can take a lunch-time walk where the sun will shine brightly down to cheer you
up. Yes, you'll probably miss the long evenings - but the weekends will make up for
it. Most people with any sense try to get out and enjoy the weather - winter here
(June-August) has be experienced to be believed.
Good luck! AndyH.
Sunrise & Sunset Results
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
BRISBANE Lat=-27°28'00" Long=+153°01'00" TIMES OF SUNRISE AND SUNSET (for ideal
horizon & meteorological conditions) For the year 2001 Time zone: +10.00 hours
Make corrections for daylight saving time where necessary.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
JAN FEB MAR APR MAY JUN rise set rise
set rise set rise set rise set rise set 1 0456 1847 0521 1842
0541 1820 0558 1746 0613 1717 0630 1701 2 0457 1847 0521 1842
0541 1819 0558 1745 0614 1716 0631 1701 3 0458 1847 0522 1841
0542 1818 0559 1744 0614 1715 0631 1701 4 0458 1847 0523 1841
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8 0501 1848 0526 1838 0545 1813 0601 1739 0617 1712 0633 1701 9 0502
1848 0527 1837 0545 1812 0602 1738 0618 1711 0634 1701 10 0503 1848
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1836 0547 1810 0603 1736 0619 1710 0635 1701 12 0504 1848 0529 1835
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0533 1831 0550 1803 0606 1729 0622 1706 0637 1701 18 0509 1847 0533
1830 0550 1802 0606 1728 0623 1706 0637 1701 19 0510 1847 0534 1830
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22 0513 1846 0536 1827 0552 1757 0608 1725 0625 1704 0638 1702 23 0513
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29 0518 1844 0556 1750 0612 1719 0629 1702 0639 1704 30 0519
1843 0557 1749 0613 1718 0629 1702 0639 1704 31 0520 1843
0557 1747 0630 1701
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0602 1734 0527 1748 0457 1806 0445 1829 2 0639 1705 0629 1720
0601 1735 0526 1749 0456 1807 0445 1830 3 0639 1705 0628 1720
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0555 1737 0521 1751 0453 1811 0445 1834
8 0639 1707 0624 1723 0554 1738 0520 1752 0452 1811 0445 1834 9 0638
1708 0624 1723 0553 1738 0519 1752 0452 1812 0446 1835 10 0638 1708
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0500 1804 0445 1827 0453 1845
29 0631 1718 0605 1733 0530 1747 0459 1804 0445 1828 0454 1846 30 0631
1718 0604 1734 0529 1748 0459 1805 0445 1828 0455 1846 31
0630 1719 0603 1734 0458 1806 0455 1846
Sep 2nd 2002, 6:05 am
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Re: Time of sunset in Brisbane?
I spent a few months in QLD and confim Dotty's POV - most people (but not backpackers! surprise surprise!) didn't seem to miss the evening sunshine so much as get up in the early am (5-6am) and enjoy the freshness of the morning - and were active a couple of hours earlier than is normal in the UK.
This might explain why some posters have said people go to bed at 9pm in Aus - it's the equivalent of 11pm in the UK in terms of 'hours awake'.
Don
This might explain why some posters have said people go to bed at 9pm in Aus - it's the equivalent of 11pm in the UK in terms of 'hours awake'.
Don
Sep 4th 2002, 1:13 pm
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Re: Time of sunset in Brisbane?
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dean:
Just wanted to post a quick reply here. We have been in Brisbane now for 6 years and I still miss the long summer evenings of the UK. We came back to the UK for a holiday in June/July and it was SO nice to have daylight almost up until bedtime. Yes, people do get up earlier here and yes they do go to bed earlier but maybe because I am more of a night owl than a lark, this is one of the few things that I still haven't adjusted to.
Carolyn
Just wanted to post a quick reply here. We have been in Brisbane now for 6 years and I still miss the long summer evenings of the UK. We came back to the UK for a holiday in June/July and it was SO nice to have daylight almost up until bedtime. Yes, people do get up earlier here and yes they do go to bed earlier but maybe because I am more of a night owl than a lark, this is one of the few things that I still haven't adjusted to.
Carolyn
Dec 2nd 2002, 12:42 pm
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The other thing is ... at mid summer because the sun rises later and sets earlier, than in more polar climes like the UK, the sun actually moves faster across the heavens ... ie your sun dial speeds up.
Also wonder if the actual time of mid-summer sunset in one's formative years fixes the earliest time one would retire to bed.
Also wonder if the actual time of mid-summer sunset in one's formative years fixes the earliest time one would retire to bed.
Dec 2nd 2002, 3:52 pm
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We've just returned from 5 weeks in Mooloolaba about 100k north of brisbane and we just accepted it as normal that the pubs were shut at 9pm and stopped serving food an hour or so earlier. We went to bed at 9ish and rose at 5am, this was totally alien to my wife who could win medals in a sleep competition, she didn't realise that there were two 5 o'clocks in a day. Plus point is that at 5am the beach/garden is tollerable even for me.
One point that was made by one of our Australian friends was that they didn't adopt the daylight saving time in Queensland because the farmers were adamant that the cattle wouldn't milk an hour later, there was me thinking how advanced they were as our cows in UK can't even tell the time yet!!!!!
One point that was made by one of our Australian friends was that they didn't adopt the daylight saving time in Queensland because the farmers were adamant that the cattle wouldn't milk an hour later, there was me thinking how advanced they were as our cows in UK can't even tell the time yet!!!!!
