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Old Jun 24th 2009, 4:24 am
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Default Re: non-CSL occupations - on hold? since when? and how much longer do you expect

Until next fiscal year..... DIAC sucks, see:

Australian Government
Department of Immigration and Citizenship
Adelaide Skilled Processing Centre, Level 4, 55 Currie Street Adelaide SA 5000
GPO Box 1638 ADELAIDE SA 5001 • Telephone 131 881 • Facsimile (08) 8237 6629 • Website: www.immi.gov.au
23 June 2009
Dear Sir/ Madam,
General Skilled Migration (GSM) Priority Processing Arrangements for 2009-10
As you may be aware, in a media release dated 12 May 2009, the Minister for Immigration and Citizenship, Senator Chris Evans (“the Minister”) announced that, in response to the continued economic slowdown, the Australian Government has decided that the permanent skilled migrant intake for the 2009-10 program year will be 108,100 places. .
As a result, the priority arrangements implemented on 1 January 2009 following the Minister’s direction in relation to the order of consideration of certain applications for sponsorship, nomination and visas under the Skill Stream of the Migration Program, will remain in place for 2009–10. Consistent with that direction, visa applications under the permanent GSM Program will be processed according to the following order:
1. employer sponsorship
2. State or Territory sponsorship
3. an occupation on the Critical Skills List (CSL)
4. an occupation on the Migration Occupation in Demand List (MODL)
5. all other applications in date of lodgement order
The arrangements put in place will continue to ensure that priority is given to employer-sponsored and government-sponsored visa applications, and that skills shortages in particular fields and regional areas are addressed. Furthermore, the CSL will remain in place for those applicants who have skills in areas of critical need and are seeking to migrate to Australia without a sponsor.
How are you affected?
Your application does not fall into Groups 1-2 and your nominated occupation is not on the CSL (http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general- ... s-list.pdf). This means that no further processing can be done on your application until all applications in Groups 1-3 have been finalised.
Based on current application rates for Groups 1-3, it is unlikely at this stage that applications which fall in Groups 1-3 will be exhausted in the 2009-10 Migration Program year and processing of Groups 4 and 5 will be delayed until this has occurred.
This arrangement applies to all applications in Groups 4 and 5, irrespective of whether health and character clearances have been provided; the date your application was submitted; whether the application is in the final stages of processing or your nominated occupation was previously on the CSL.
We will contact you again should there be any changes to the above arrangements.

If your nominated occupation is Accountant, ASCO code 2211-11 or Computing Professional (nec), ASCO Code 2231-79, see Attachment A.
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Providing outstanding documents
If you were requested to undergo health and character checks but have not yet initiated these, you should not proceed until a further request is made by the Department.
If you have already undergone your health and character checks, these should still be forwarded to the Department. However, please note that processing of your application will not be finalised until further notice.
No further documentation should be provided until your new case officer contacts you.
Your visa status
For Onshore GSM applicants (subclass 496, 880, 881, 882, 885, 886), you will hold a Bridging visa A until a decision is made on your GSM application. If you wish to travel overseas during the processing of your GSM application, you should apply for a Bridging visa B (at your nearest DIAC office) before leaving Australia.
If you are granted a Bridging visa B, you have permission to travel overseas and to re-enter Australia (within a set period) while your GSM application is being processed, as it gives you a temporary visa status, should your current substantive visa expire. Further information on Bridging visas can be found at: http://www.immi.gov.au/allforms/booklets/1024i.pdf
For Offshore GSM applicants (subclass 134, 136, 137, 138, 139, 175, 176, 475, 496) who are in Australia, bridging visas are not applicable to your application. To remain lawfully in Australia you will need to ensure you hold a substantive visa (eg Tourist, Student, Work).
How can you obtain priority processing?
To be eligible for priority processing you will need to obtain nomination by a State or Territory Government. This option is available for subclasses 134, 136, 175, 176, 885, 886.
States and Territories can nominate applicants who have an occupation on their skills shortage list. They may also sponsor up to 500 visa applicants and their families per year who do not have occupations on their State or Territory list depending on the needs of local labour markets.
Please note that it is entirely at the discretion of the State or Territory whether or not they choose to nominate a migration visa applicant.
If you receive a nomination, your application will be allocated to a case officer within 10 days of approval of this nomination.
Further information on State or Territory nominations can be found at: http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general- ... rr-gov.htm
Alternatively, you may seek an Australian employer to formally sponsor you.
Further information on Employer sponsorship can be found at: http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/skilled- ... ptions.htm
Can I provide a new skills assessment?
If you obtain a new skills assessment for an occupation listed on the CSL, this can generally only be considered with a new application. You must ensure you meet the legislative criteria in place at the time of lodgement. Any new application will require a new visa application charge.
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Can I withdraw my application?
If you wish to withdraw your application, you must advise the department in writing. This advice can include any number of applicants but must be signed by each person aged 18 years and over.
Applicants who wish to withdraw their application because of these processing delays will generally not be eligible for a refund of the first Visa Application Charge. This is because the legislation only allows limited circumstances in which refunds can be given.

Where can I get further information?
The Adelaide Skilled Processing Centre updates information on skilled visa processing every Tuesday. To receive an auto response, a blank email should be sent to: [email protected]" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false.
Further announcements on processing arrangements will also be published on the Department’s website at: http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general- ... ts-new.htm as changes are made.
The case officer previously assigned to your application will no longer be able to assist with enquiries about your application.
All processing enquiries must be made via the Department’s post-lodgement website enquiry form at: http://www.immi.gov.au/contacts/forms/gsm/post.htm
Yours sincerely
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General Skilled Migration
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ATTACHMENT A
Accountants
Your nominated occupation is Accountant, ASCO code 2211-11, but you are not eligible for Group 3 priority because you have not provided evidence of Proficient English or having completed the Professional Year – Skilled Migration Internship Program Accounting (SMIPA).
Proficient English is equivalent to a score of 7.0 in each component of an International English Language Testing System (IELTS) test.
British, American, Canadian, New Zealand and Republic of Ireland passport holders are considered to have Competent English (IELTS score of 6.0 in each component) without needing to provide an IELTS test. They must, however, provide an IELTS test showing 7.0 in each component to be eligible for priority processing.
If you are now able to provide an IELTS test result with 7.0 in each component, or evidence of having completed The Professional Year – SMIPA in Australia you should email [email protected]" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false and attach these documents.
In either of these circumstances, your nominated occupation would be considered to be on the CSL and eligible for priority processing.
Computing Professionals
Your nominated occupation is Computing Professional (nec), ASCO code 2231-79, but you do not have a computing specialisation listed on the Migration Occupation on Demand List (MODL). This means that your nominated occupation is not included in Group 3.
A list of MODL specialisations can be found at: http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general- ... demand.htm.


Very, very unfair in my opinion...... the worst that could have happened was having The Labor Party governing Australia.....

Daniel

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Question Does this mean that my case was allocated to an officer?

I received a response to my PLE:
"Thank you for your e-mail in relation to your visa application under
Australia’s General Skilled Migration program.
Your application is being processed now, we are aware that your
specialisation places you in the Critical Skills List.
The incorrect answers form has been received and the case officer will
take that in to account when assessing the file further.
At this time the re are checks taking place that we need to wait for the
outcome of before proceeding further with the application assessment. They
are part of the assessment of all applications but in your case are taking
a ling time. There is nothing you can do to assist us with these checks
at this time so we ask you to continue to be patient and assure you we
will process the application just as soon as we can and according to any
processing instructions we might receive."

Does this mean that my case was allocated to an officer?
Can anybody help me out here?
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Old Jun 24th 2009, 4:55 am
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Default Re: non-CSL occupations - on hold? since when? and how much longer do you expect

Hi there

Its totally unfair, I applied in December before any announcements on prioritisation, I applied in good faith and as an onshore applicant had to complete my medicals and police checks - these of course will now expire! More money....

I have a full time job in Australia, family who are Permanent residents, ( so tick both boxes in terms of the minister's statement), yet am not eligible for any other visa, any prioritisation or any other consideration.

I am soooo fed up with it all. It is so unfair and unjust and if this is the way it has to be, why let people still apply in these categories if they have no intention of ever processing them...they just take the money and watch the backlog grow!

Aaaarghhhhhh:

Good luck to all in limbo land...x
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Old Jun 24th 2009, 5:31 am
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Default Re: Thread for timeline/processing/how long is a piece of string questions

Originally Posted by andres96
My agent sent me the very same letter, but it was dated june 23. I don't think DIAC send hoaxes to agents.

All I know is I want my fc** time and money back, I've been waiting for 2 years now they tell me to wait another year or more. Why they don't just stop receiving applications???. I could be CSL now but I had to lodge a new application and pay again their fee .... that's how they respond to all the people trying to plan the next years of their life.

Firstly, sorry to hear about the enormous waiting period. Secondly at the end of the day all that DIAC is doing is creating awareness that maybe applying for a visa to OZ may not be such a good idea.

The same thing has happened in the UK. A lot of people including myself was once keen to immigrate there, but after so many immigration law changes, wasted time and money, people are just no longer considering it as a viable destination. One of the issues that really got a friend of mine whom went to the UK, ticked off, was the citizenship period. Way back it use to be four years then it got bumped to five years just as she had four years. The same thing happened again went it got bumped to six years.

In fact if memory serves me correctly, the same thing has happened in Oz too. You once only required two years TR/PR to apply for citizenship, but these days it's four years.

So sometimes you just have to make a choice and stay with it for the loooooonnnngggg haul or cut your losses and go somewhere else like Canada, Greece, Portugal, Italy, New Zealand, etc. One place that I would never immigrate to though is the USA, I just get the feeling that they lost the plot

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Default Re: non-CSL occupations - on hold? since when? and how much longer do you expect

Originally Posted by mango4
Hi there

Its totally unfair, I applied in December before any announcements on prioritisation, I applied in good faith and as an onshore applicant had to complete my medicals and police checks - these of course will now expire! More money....

I have a full time job in Australia, family who are Permanent residents, ( so tick both boxes in terms of the minister's statement), yet am not eligible for any other visa, any prioritisation or any other consideration.

I am soooo fed up with it all. It is so unfair and unjust and if this is the way it has to be, why let people still apply in these categories if they have no intention of ever processing them...they just take the money and watch the backlog grow!

Aaaarghhhhhh:

Good luck to all in limbo land...x

I agree, refund the money and let that person(s) try another country. It's like a business accepting payment to render a certain service. But after the payment has been received they turn around and state that they no longer provide that types of services and are unable to refund the payment.

Makes me wonder if there is'nt some type of international law against this type of practise. Maybe some terms that they are bound too considering that they are part of the UN and bound to it's declarations.

It would be interesting to do some research on this topic to see just how the DIAC's current stance fits in with international acceptable business practise.

For more info see thread http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=614865
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Default Re: non-CSL occupations - on hold? since when? and how much longer do you expect

Originally Posted by dasalcedo

Based on current application rates for Groups 1-3, it is unlikely at this stage that applications which fall in Groups 1-3 will be exhausted in the 2009-10 Migration Program year and processing of Groups 4 and 5 will be delayed until this has occurred.

Is this official? To wait for another year? and then what?

I think this is the news everyone in group 4 & 5 was dreading and they cant even get thier money back, looks like the Government is hiding behind the mask of legislation and keeping all those application fees.
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Is this official? To wait for another year? and then what?

I think this is the news everyone in group 4 & 5 was dreading and they cant even get thier money back, looks like the Government is hiding behind the mask of legislation and keeping all those application fees.
That letter is a letter my agent got from DIAC. There is a rumour that lot of Immigration agents aren't happy with the way the minister is making decisions and there are lots of agents that didn't renewed their licence because of this situation.
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Originally Posted by dasalcedo
That letter is a letter my agent got from DIAC. There is a rumour that lot of Immigration agents aren't happy with the way the minister is making decisions and there are lots of agents that didn't renewed their licence because of this situation.
Would you mind asking your agent if there is any official website or link that one could visit where this information has been made public?
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Would you mind asking your agent if there is any official website or link that one could visit where this information has been made public?
I have already asked agents who post on here and there is nothing as yet except this letter, of which several people have seen a copy. If and when the information is published officially by DIAC we will make it a sticky thread.
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CSL-occupation applicants only,

Please share your progress/timelines since 'the list' has been issued... or of others you might know of.
(e.g. starting with date application first received at DIAC...)
Hello, my time line's in my signature below

all meds show as received for me, my wife and our Baby, on the 2nd page everything shows as required

this's since 27/05
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Please share your progress/timelines since 'the list' has been issued... or of others you might know of.
(e.g. starting with date application first received at DIAC...)
Please don't ask people to do this. It's irrelevant. Most people put it in their signature. Just check that out.
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Hi all ,

Just wanted to let u know that I asked DIAC about that quota issue and here is the reply for my PLE :
' Thank you for your e-mail in relation to your visa application under
Australia's General Skilled Migration program.

Please be advised the Department is still processing applications.

As previously advised, your application is undergoing routine
processing. Unfortunately, ensuring all the legal requirements are met
in relation to an application can take some time.

The case officer is following up on the status of your application on a
regular basis to ensure it is being processed as soon as practicable. You
will be contacted if we require additional information to process your
application.

We appreciate your patience in this matter.

For any further enquiries about the application you have lodged please
refer to our website using the following link http://www.immi.gov.
au/contacts/visa-enquiries/professionals.htm

Yours sincerely,

XXXXX

So , the quota issue is fake guys ... It is just rumors !!

But , as to when we will be granted , I don't know !!!!

All my doc. now show MET XPT work experience !! Don't know why ?!!!

Does anybody know what is maximum time for the file with the CO ?? How long roughly did the most delayed file take ??

Regards

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Hi all ,

Just wanted to let u know that I asked DIAC about that quota issue and here is the reply for my PLE :
' Thank you for your e-mail in relation to your visa application under
Australia's General Skilled Migration program.

Please be advised the Department is still processing applications.

As previously advised, your application is undergoing routine
processing. Unfortunately, ensuring all the legal requirements are met
in relation to an application can take some time.

The case officer is following up on the status of your application on a
regular basis to ensure it is being processed as soon as practicable. You
will be contacted if we require additional information to process your
application.

We appreciate your patience in this matter.

For any further enquiries about the application you have lodged please
refer to our website using the following link http://www.immi.gov.
au/contacts/visa-enquiries/professionals.htm

Yours sincerely,

XXXXX

So , the quota issue is fake guys ... It is just rumors !!

But , as to when we will be granted , I don't know !!!!

All my doc. now show MET XPT work experience !! Don't know why ?!!!

Does anybody know what is maximum time for the file with the CO ?? How long roughly did the most delayed file take ??

Regards
Oh for crying out loud. Everyone with an ounce of intelligence has been saying the same thing about quotas for years. This reply is the same generic letter that everyone who's sent a PLE about the subject receives. It's hardly news.

Perhaps XPT work experience hasn't been updated to met because they haven't finished checking everything out, as the letter says.

And again, no one, not people on here or anyone at DIAC has any idea how long the file will be with the CO so it doesn't matter how many times people ask, the answer is still that no one knows.

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Hey All,
I applied on Jan-05-09 for 175 under CSL . I see that almost all of the CSL applicants with same skill sets as mine getting a CO.
I am really getting frustrated now ....No sign of a CO

Anyone faced with it ???

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Another batch of unanswerable threads merged.

People can put their timelines in their signatures. We do not want the forum full yet again with dozens of threads dividing people up into minute categories.
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