willywh3r3

Are you implying, those who live in Oz look at color?

pommie bastard

Colour , race ,looks in fact a more anti black bunch of red necks you will never meet.The policy here up until the 60s was a non whites would not get in some would gladly return to that ,BBC reportor on radio in Perth being interveiwed remarked how few black people there where here .That should encourage BNP members to to come here then again I think they already have .

Mike Rogers

rajj <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Mike Your message on the whole is generally informative and interesting. Thanks.
    > However, your analysis of "Abos" is very incorrect, naive and ignorant. Dont know
    > who tainted your mind with that garbage in your 6 months there, but frankly a huge
    > number of locals downunder still remain uninformed about their own history and the
    > brutality towards the indigenious population. Controversial but true.

rajj - i take your point. My cousin is studying law(!!) and I helped her type up her
Abo land rights essay so I am well informed about past injustices - and
sympathetic..I mean Abos were treated like they were non-existent or invisible -
shocking..

..someone said - France invaded England in 1066 - did/do *we* sue *them* for land
rights etc?

Mike

Mike Rogers

misterbean <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > Re: Cars. The Australian Design Rules (ADR's) dictate that in many instances
    > Australian car are different from their counterparts sold overseas. Many Australian
    > purchased cars will have different components from the same "model" that you would
    > purchase in Europe - though not all. Some 'manufacturing series' of the same
    > vehicle may never be sold in Australia, or vice versa, in Europe. Particularly so
    > with small volume cars like SAAB, BMW,FIAT,JAGUAR,VOLVO,PEUGEOT though you will
    > find that the 'elite' manufacturers will usually get the bits for you anyway.
    > Though in the worst case suppose you can always get parts shipped here especially -
    > now with the Internet it's never been easier. Believe statistically we have one of
    > the oldest car populations in the world with an average age of about 9 years. We
    > don't have salt on the roads to contend with for instance. And Australian cars have
    > become really world class as far as reliability is concerned. Some of the early
    > Commodores could cost more to maintain than to 'pay-off' - taxi's avoided them like
    > the plague.

Absolutely correct both these 2 last posts. I hear the Commodore has a harder
suspension. I have driven my cousin's Falcon Estate and it was a bit wobbly without
the low profile tyres. My rental Falcon saloon fishtailed in the rain even when I was
pulling away at a snail's pace. Get the low profile tyres!!

Mike
    > Manufacturers Warranties for new cars are now usually 24months/24000kilometres
    > though some even get out to 5 years! Warranties on second hand cars are not
    > uncommonly 12 months 20000kms. Here in Victoria there is statuory warranty
    > conditions on second hand car sales also. (http://www.consumer.vic.gov-
    > .au/cbav/fairsite.nsf/pages/of_cars_buyused_trader_warranty    )
    > The current Ford Falcon is technically superior to the Holden (GM) Commodore but
    > it's appearance is way down on charisma. The new model due imminently (see the
    > ford.com.au web-site) should remedy that. There's also mitsubishi.com.au and
    > holden.com.au - and nearly every other manufacturer and importers ".com.au" Cars
    > are an expensive commodity. Wife drives a 10 year old Nissan Auto which cost $6000
    > and I drive a 10 year old Toyota Tarago 8 seater which cost $7000. Both have power
    > steering, AirCond, stereos, cloth seats, tinted windows etc. At this age they both
    > have all the 'electronics' so of course 'tuning' is just replace the spark plugs
    > and Air filter. Wifes car 'blew a motor' when then the timing belt gave way. A
    > "Dealer" seems not to have replaced the belt at schedule. Second hand - rebuilt
    > motor cost us about $1700.

Mike Rogers

"Injunir" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > One important facet you ommitted: Is the beer anygood?
    > T. Rogers US

I have been a bitter drinker (!) for 10 years - but have reverted back to lager
now..last drunk as a beer of first choice when I was 18 or
19...

Someone corrected my use of schooner in reference to a pint. A schooner is a small
measure - too small initially - but beer seems stronger and u dont feel so bloated
after a night on the lash. Can't ask for a half now can I back in England?? Go to
Scruffys in George St, Sydney and u get pints..

QL - Castlemaine XXXX - awful beer - v watery!!Like a budweiser.

NSW - VB, Tooheys New (ask for 'New') are very popular. The Old is a dark beer. VB
eclipses Tooheys a fraction. Took me a bit of time to realise this. VB seems
available everywhere across Eastern Oz. Drink Hahn Lite for a light beer.

Bottle shops - buy beer (bottles) in a pack or "slab" of 24 or so - costs 30 bucks
or so. You get 345ml - 375ml per bottle depending on the brand- around a "stubby"
size. I drink Tooheys Extra Dry - great beer.

Also get a stubby holder -possibly the best invention since sliced bread!! I now have
quite a collection - but do *not* put them around my gear shift..

if I got a ute I could - but I haven't got the obligatory dog - and chain required
by law.. :-) Mike

Mike Rogers

    > The girls game is the played by more people in Australia that any other
    > sport,every one here apart for dead head Aussie Rules people wanted Australia to
    > be in World Cup.

Pommie bastard is absolutely right - soccer is the biggest participation sport - it
is just not represented nationally on TV or marketed the same way..to be honest as a
rah rah man this suits me fine!!

Mike

pommie bastard

..someone said - France invaded England in 1066 - did/do *we* sue *them* for land
rights etc?

Mike
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What a great idea but UK being the melting pot it is who can trace their family tree back before the Normans?

Rohan Jackson

Hi Hongwee,

I have some very nice Singaporean friends. Find them to be very likeable people. They
fit in without many problems, probably because Singapore is a real melting pot anyway

"hongwee" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > hey mike..thanks for sharing your experience. i'd like to borrow your thread to
    > talk about my own concerns, and hopefully can get something constructive out of it.
    > all my life, i have always lived in this very protected island, Singapore. Moving
    > to Australia will be one heck of an experience for me. My wife thinks i'm a scary
    > cat, but this is something that i'd admit.. i AM scared.
    > being an asian (chinese), i am conscious on how the caucasians perceive
    > me. i really do not want one to the "odd one out" and will try my best to fit in.
    > sometimes i've heard from friends (who studied in UK,US,Australia..etc) that
    > the reason why asians don't seem to "fit in" is because they tend to stick with
    > their own "skin color". now, that was college days..i'm not sure on how the
    > adult world is like.
    > my only real encounter with caucasians is those colleagues (from US,UK, Australia)
    > that I work with. But what we talk about, is mostly work related. There is very
    > little opportunity for non-work stuff. Even if we go out for dinners together, i
    > still feel it's too stiff and "work-like". It's kinda..pretentious.
    > so..how about some frank talk about it? i'd really like to know what are things
    > that i should not do or say so as not to piss the people around me.
    > --
    > Posted via http://britishexpats.com

hongwee

thanks for the assurance.. i guess i'd just be less paranoid and be nice to everyone!

that's the bane for coming from a society where failure is not an option.

Chris

"pommie bastard" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...

    > Just a small point here , have you met an Australian who can see beyond some ones
    > skin and race if you have they are not living here.

That's rich, coming from an idiot who's sole purpose here is to spew out
prejudiced hatred.

Chris

    > --
    > Posted via http://britishexpats.com

Chris

"pommie bastard" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > Originally posted by willywh3r3:
    > >
    > >
    > > Are you implying, those who live in Oz look at color?

If you believe that rot, then you'd believe that the British still treat Indians like
dogs as they did during their Imperialistic peak.

Chris

    > Colour , race ,looks in fact a more anti white bunch of red necks you will never
    > meet.The policy here up until the 60s

Mike Rogers

"Injunir" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > One important facet you ommitted: Is the beer anygood?
    > T. Rogers US


I posted this about 6 hrs ago but I think I 'stuffed' it up..here again.

In Oz here I have taken up drinking lager after a 10 year break probably brought on
as a teenager..

In NSW you can (amongst others) get

VB - quite flavoursome.. Tooheys New (ask for "New") Hahn is a good light beer

Tooheys Old is a "dark" ale.

A schooner is about 375ml - correct me someone if I am wrong. A midi is smaller again
- 10oz - known as a pot in QLD and VIC. These are served over the counter.

In QLD avoid Castlemaine XXXX like the plague - it tastes of water - like a Bud.

Beer is stronger over here which makes up for the reduced size of a schooner 15 oz
(375ml?) compared to a pint (545ml I think) - although a schooner is a nice hand size
and u feel less bloated after a session.

I higly recommend Tooheys Extra Dry served only in bottles - or stubbies.

Bottle shops - U can get all manners of beers in "slabs" - 24-30 *
345ml/375ml bottle. Tooheys Dry comes in 345ml for some reason, VB and others
(I think) in 375ml..VB have just introduced "midi" sized bottles a few
months ago..

Make sure you get a stubby holder - possibly the best Australian invention since
sliced bread. I own quite a collection now - but I won't resort to hanging them
around my gear shift in my ute..as I haven't even got the dog on a chain yet..(the
chain is required by law BTW)

    :-)

Mike

Grub

P.B.

Yet we all keep humouring him....
Say no more

Nibbles
x

(ref. to various nastiness spouting from PB- the cheerful bastard)

rajj

rajj - i take your point. My cousin is studying law(!!) and I helped her type up her
Abo land rights essay so I am well informed about past injustices - and
sympathetic..I mean Abos were treated like they were non-existent or invisible -
shocking..

..someone said - France invaded England in 1066 - did/do *we* sue *them* for land
rights etc?

Mike
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Mike,
I would hate this to turn into some kind of pathetic political subjective bla bla…...... but this 1066 comparison is quite demeaning.
By past history, I don’t necessarily mean 200 years ago, which is the usual comforting excuse for the red necked aussies - well Queenslanders anyway (only truly experienced life downuder in Qld) . Its the more very recent history and attitudes towards “Abos� I find disturbing.
A lot of the thieving and brutality took place in my lifetime. This blot has to be rectified before aussies can possibly consider themselves to be a true proud nation.
How this goes in the future will determine the Aussie attitudes to other minorities as well.
Alternatively, I could teach my young kids, to exploit and steal to the hilt as, if they get away with it, eventually people will accept it.

Having said that, fortunately I did meet, work and socialise with some very good intelligent, forward thinking people who are proactive or have visions of dealing with such issues properly given modern realities – tho’ they are in a minority in my opinion.
Sorry about the "heavy" nature of this post!!!!!
rajj

Pam

Just wanted to thank you for your post Rajj, You give the clearest account of how it
really is.