Should I take the Car

Old Dec 29th 2004, 1:51 pm
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I have bought a car 1 year ago and it cost me quite a lot of money. The thing is, do I sell it now and loose lots of money on it ? or do I take it with me
and keep it for the next 10 years.
Has anyone any advise they can give me or has anyone done the same?
and was it easy to do.

Will be greatful for any advise

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Old Dec 29th 2004, 4:33 pm
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Originally Posted by stressed out
I have bought a car 1 year ago and it cost me quite a lot of money. The thing is, do I sell it now and loose lots of money on it ? or do I take it with me
and keep it for the next 10 years.
Has anyone any advise they can give me or has anyone done the same?
and was it easy to do.

Will be greatful for any advise

John& rose
Hi

Just bumping this up as I'd also like some info/advice on this.

Cheers
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For Australia, the main consensus is no - unless it is a vintage car. There are lots of costs (importing & duties/taxes) and requirements for importing a car, that on the whole it is not worth it.

Have a search on the lifestyle forum as it has been discussed many times - if you do decide to take your car make sure it is not with Anglo Pacific (better known as ***** ********) - another search should come up with what happened to a guys belongings plus his BMW
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Originally Posted by walaj
For Australia, the main consensus is no - unless it is a vintage car. There are lots of costs (importing & duties/taxes) and requirements for importing a car, that on the whole it is not worth it.

Have a search on the lifestyle forum as it has been discussed many times - if you do decide to take your car make sure it is not with Anglo Pacific (better known as ***** ********) - another search should come up with what happened to a guys belongings plus his BMW

I have been involved in this discussion and for the benefit I will reiterate my thoughts on this matter.

Three years ago I bought a BIG new family car cost £25,000.00, to sell this car today be lucky if I got £15,000.00, thats a £10,000.00 depreciation loss, but this car is still worth £25,000.00 to me as I had no intention of selling it.

Lets say I sell the car for £15,000.00 and go to Aus with the cash in my pocket, am I going to be able to buy the same car for a similar price the answer is NO, I am going to get ripped off £3-4,000.00 by some used car spiff and and have half the car I had in the UK.

Rather than paying some used car spiff in Aus £3-4,000.00 for a dodgy used car I am going to spend it on shipping my car over, this way I get to keep my £25,000.00 car, which by the way is quite expensive in Aus as they are a low volume import, and according to the local car market seem to hold there value quite well, so when I did come to sell it I might even get my
£3-4,000.00 back.

There logic in here some where, or I have just convinced myself of it.
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Originally Posted by The Druid
I have been involved in this discussion and for the benefit I will reiterate my thoughts on this matter.

Three years ago I bought a BIG new family car cost £25,000.00, to sell this car today be lucky if I got £15,000.00, thats a £10,000.00 depreciation loss, but this car is still worth £25,000.00 to me as I had no intention of selling it.

Lets say I sell the car for £15,000.00 and go to Aus with the cash in my pocket, am I going to be able to buy the same car for a similar price the answer is NO, I am going to get ripped off £3-4,000.00 by some used car spiff and and have half the car I had in the UK.

Rather than paying some used car spiff in Aus £3-4,000.00 for a dodgy used car I am going to spend it on shipping my car over, this way I get to keep my £25,000.00 car, which by the way is quite expensive in Aus as they are a low volume import, and according to the local car market seem to hold there value quite well, so when I did come to sell it I might even get my
£3-4,000.00 back.

There logic in here some where, or I have just convinced myself of it.
Well I can see the logic as it is just what I was thinking. I'm just worried about import duty as it's not an old car and most of all - what if it gets wrecked like someone's bmw that I read about a while back? It got damaged by the shipping company employees and by the sea water that got into the container! I just can't decide. We could do with some success stories about taking cars to Oz and an idea of costs involved ie import duty etc.

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Old Dec 29th 2004, 10:23 pm
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Originally Posted by Gaz&Rach
Well I can see the logic as it is just what I was thinking. I'm just worried about import duty as it's not an old car and most of all - what if it gets wrecked like someone's bmw that I read about a while back? It got damaged by the shipping company employees and by the sea water that got into the container! I just can't decide. We could do with some success stories about taking cars to Oz and an idea of costs involved ie import duty etc.

Rachel


I definately agree with you.
So comeon all you knowledgeable people out there.I heard that if you owned a car for a year before you migrate, you have some of the import tax removed
Am I right? or as I suspect , WRONG

Look forward to the reply and thanks
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Old Dec 29th 2004, 10:26 pm
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Originally Posted by stressed out
I have bought a car 1 year ago and it cost me quite a lot of money. The thing is, do I sell it now and loose lots of money on it ? or do I take it with me
and keep it for the next 10 years.
Has anyone any advise they can give me or has anyone done the same?
and was it easy to do.

Will be greatful for any advise

John& rose

Unless its some very special sports/classic car I'd sell it. It seems to be quite expensive to get your car over here. If you do a search you should find some more info.

The car that was destroyed was imported to NZ, if you do a search on the ***** site you should be able to find the details.
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Old Dec 29th 2004, 11:21 pm
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check whether the car conforms to Australian Design Rules, there are many
models sold in the UK US Europe Asia that dont meet Australian safety
standards, and cannot be imported at all, You dont want to spend the money
on a container to ship it and then watch it go in the crusher at Customs
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"Gaz&Rach" <[email protected]_expats.com> wrote in message
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    > > I have been involved in this discussion and for the benefit I will
    > > reiterate my thoughts on this matter.
    > >
    > > Three years ago I bought a BIG new family car cost £25,000.00, to sell
    > > this car today be lucky if I got £15,000.00, thats a £10,000.00
    > > depreciation loss, but this car is still worth £25,000.00 to me as I
    > > had no intention of selling it.
    > >
    > > Lets say I sell the car for £15,000.00 and go to Aus with the cash in
    > > my pocket, am I going to be able to buy the same car for a similar
    > > price the answer is NO, I am going to get ripped off £3-4,000.00 by
    > > some used car spiff and and have half the car I had in the UK.
    > >
    > > Rather than paying some used car spiff in Aus £3-4,000.00 for a dodgy
    > > used car I am going to spend it on shipping my car over, this way I
    > > get to keep my £25,000.00 car, which by the way is quite expensive in
    > > Aus as they are a low volume import, and according to the local car
    > > market seem to hold there value quite well, so when I did come to sell
    > > it I might even get my
    > > £3-4,000.00 back.
    > >
    > > There logic in here some where, or I have just convinced myself of it.
    > Well I can see the logic as it is just what I was thinking. I'm just
    > worried about import duty as it's not an old car and most of all - what
    > if it gets wrecked like someone's bmw that I read about a while back?
    > It got damaged by the shipping company employees and by the sea water
    > that got into the container! I just can't decide. We could do with
    > some success stories about taking cars to Oz and an idea of costs
    > involved ie import duty etc.
    > Rachel
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Old Dec 30th 2004, 3:32 am
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stressed out wrote:
    > I have bought a car 1 year ago and it cost me quite a lot of money. The
    > thing is, do I sell it now and loose lots of money on it ? or do I take
    > it with me
    > and keep it for the next 10 years.
    > Has anyone any advise they can give me or has anyone done the same?
    > and was it easy to do.
    >
    > Will be greatful for any advise
    >
    > John& rose
    >

Depends what car, but do a search of this newgroup and there is lots of
threads about taking / not taking a car. Where are you from as if your
car is NOT right hand drive you may need to convert. You may also NOT
be able to get parts / warrenty in AUS as your car was bought from her.


There is Tax / import duties that you have to consider. Most of the
threads talk about NOT taking a car.
 
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Just be sure you get real and accurate information on costs involved; and
remember that cars which do not have Australian Compliance Plates (a metal
plate affixed to the firewall of every car made or imported in accordance
with the ADR's - Australian Design Rules - a set of stringent requirements
as to crash capability etc etc) are virtually unsaleable within Australia -
so you'll cop an enormous depreciation slug when you eventually dispose of
the car to a wrecker anyway!!
Bringing some cars up to ADR requirements is possible without bankrupting
you - but for many vehicles it will be near impossible. Then there are the
issues of availability of parts and service - not to forget insurability -
and at what annual cost!!!


Do your sums carefully - a wide range of cars are available in Australia -
and new prices may surprise you!!

Go to http://www.redbook.com.au/ and follow the relevant Private Research
thread - which details price and specifications of cars in Austr.

Forget the models you're accustomed to in Europe or the UK - check out the
Holdens, Ford Falcons, Mitsubishi Magnas (sold as the Diamante in the UK and
Europe - the identical car, actually made in Adelaide for the European,
American and Middle East market) etc. These are big powerful cars, well
suited to the big distances in Austr - and well made and equipped (eg. Air
Conditioning is essential in Austr - electric seat heating - useless).
Remember fuel costs much less in Australia than in the UK - so fuel
consumption is not such a crucial issue.

Good Luck!!!



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    > I have bought a car 1 year ago and it cost me quite a lot of money. The
    > thing is, do I sell it now and loose lots of money on it ? or do I take
    > it with me
    > and keep it for the next 10 years.
    > Has anyone any advise they can give me or has anyone done the same?
    > and was it easy to do.
    > Will be greatful for any advise
    > John& rose
    > --
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We are taking our 3 year old Toyota Landcruiser to Perth in 3 weeks and the costs that i know about so far are:

$50 to get import licence from DOTARS
approx $500 - $1500 clearance fees at Freemantle
10% of its Australian value in duties/tax as GST (Oz VAT)
5% of its value as import duty (coz its a 4WD - this is normally 10 - 15% for cars)

They will also probably steam clean it at our expense (around $200)

This is worth it for us because we have no intention of selling it as it will be pulling our boat!!

Hope this is helpful
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Also watch out for the Luxuary car tax too.

The cost of your shipping will also be included when they work out how much duty you have to pay.
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From what I can see doing my research it all comes down to wether or not you have to pay LCT ( luxury car tax).
Send me a p.m if you want and I'll forward you the e.mail I got from C&E.
I was thinking of shipping out a Merc but have changed my mind!!!

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Old Dec 30th 2004, 8:38 pm
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Originally Posted by Gaz&Rach
Well I can see the logic as it is just what I was thinking. I'm just worried about import duty as it's not an old car and most of all - what if it gets wrecked like someone's bmw that I read about a while back? It got damaged by the shipping company employees and by the sea water that got into the container! I just can't decide. We could do with some success stories about taking cars to Oz and an idea of costs involved ie import duty etc.

Rachel
I got s quote of Karmann, they only do cars, quote very reasonable, not the cheapest mind but they will not put freight in the container with the car, this is where the problems lie, other companies do put freight in the container and this is where the car gets damaged. Karmanns containers are 100% air and water tight, they put silica gell bags in to absorb any moisture. I have not been able to find any negative stories about Karmann.
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Originally Posted by The Druid
I got s quote of Karmann, they only do cars, quote very reasonable, not the cheapest mind but they will not put freight in the container with the car, this is where the problems lie, other companies do put freight in the container and this is where the car gets damaged. Karmanns containers are 100% air and water tight, they put silica gell bags in to absorb any moisture. I have not been able to find any negative stories about Karmann.
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So what was your quote like ???? and for which size of car ( compact / intermediate ) ????
Do you have a contact e-mail address for them, or contact number ?

I like many others judging by the interest on this subject, fancy the idea of taking one of our cars ( Ford Focus ...wife got it new 4 yrs ago, low milage , mint condition... ) and would rather pay a reasonable fee to take it, for use as a second car, rather than let it go for peanuts to someone.

Has anybody got a rough idea of shipping fees and import tax ?
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