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Old Sep 18th 2014, 6:42 am
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Help!!!
Husband has 25+ year old convictions in UK immigration fully aware
Also holiday visa without declaring but did apology letter with application.
Anyway husband has PR and we've been reading that others are being refused citizenship after 8+ years and asked to leave Australia as immigration
decided that, even after allowing them in the decision to not allow citizenship is being made and told to leave!!!
Please help, I'm so worried!! Myself and daughter have citizenship only hubby to go!!been here 5 years
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Old Sep 18th 2014, 7:07 am
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Default Re: Scaremongering for 8 yrs PR /Citizenship with convictions

Originally Posted by Jaycee1
Help!!!
Husband has 25+ year old convictions in UK immigration fully aware
Also holiday visa without declaring but did apology letter with application.
Anyway husband has PR and we've been reading that others are being refused citizenship after 8+ years and asked to leave Australia as immigration
decided that, even after allowing them in the decision to not allow citizenship is being made and told to leave!!!
Please help, I'm so worried!! Myself and daughter have citizenship only hubby to go!!
J x
Reading where? And if its open source media, remember you are not reading the facts.
There are a lot of stories that are published in open media and those will not have all the facts as the media want to sell news. Good news is not news.

I'm not blowing my own trumpet, BUT I've been on these forums a long long time and I've seen people go through to get citizenship with serious convictions. What I haven't seen is someone from the UK with Aus family and a very old history be refused.
I know its easy for me to say, but chill...... he will be fine. The odds are stacked so high in his favour that I'll buy him a drink now in advance
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Old Sep 18th 2014, 7:17 am
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Default Re: Scaremongering for 8 yrs PR /Citizenship with convictions

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Help!!!
Husband has 25+ year old convictions in UK immigration fully aware
Also holiday visa without declaring but did apology letter with application.
Anyway husband has PR and we've been reading that others are being refused citizenship after 8+ years and asked to leave Australia as immigration
decided that, even after allowing them in the decision to not allow citizenship is being made and told to leave!!!
Please help, I'm so worried!! Myself and daughter have citizenship only hubby to go!!been here 5 years
J x
If his past record was a problem, it would have been a problem at the PR stage. After all he is living here permanently anyway, so there could be no logical reason to deny citizenship at this point. Agree with Polly, there is nothing to worry about and I have never heard this before either.
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Old Sep 18th 2014, 12:25 pm
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He'll hold you to that drink Polly!!
Thanks for all the replies, it was another forum and seemed like a true story. Maybe it wasn't ??
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I don't want to contribute to the scaremongering as such, but I'll just say that recently the Department seems to have raised the character standards in a couple of apparently isolated cases. Whether this crystallises into a new standard for all visa and citizenship processing is not clear, but fwiw I think that people who have access to a review option should remain confident.

Any Kremlinologists or China Watchers left over from the Cold War might be able to do a lucrative trade watching what the Department does and interpreting its next move, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kremlinology for details of the appropriate techniques.

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Default Re: Scaremongering for 8 yrs PR /Citizenship with convictions

Originally Posted by George Lombard
I don't want to contribute to the scaremongering as such, but I'll just say that recently the Department seems to have raised the character standards in a couple of apparently isolated cases. Whether this crystallises into a new standard for all visa and citizenship processing is not clear, but fwiw I think that people who have access to a review option should remain confident.

Any Kremlinologists or China Watchers left over from the Cold War might be able to do a lucrative trade watching what the Department does and interpreting its next move, see Kremlinology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia for details of the appropriate techniques.

Cheers,

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Thanks George. Good to have a professional view on it as we obviously only see a small representation of the total applications on here.
I guess the fact they are allowing appeals could possibly ( i'm just speculating) mean that they just want to make people more aware that the character background is being looked into. At the same time though its a bit worrying if they are making changes like this on the sly.
Opens a huge can of worms if they are allowing people PR but the refusing them citizenship when nothing has changed as regards their criminal history - wonder if the long term aim is to tighten the visa rules themselves, more in line with canada or even the USA (heaven forbid!)
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Originally Posted by Pollyana
Thanks George. Good to have a professional view on it as we obviously only see a small representation of the total applications on here.
I guess the fact they are allowing appeals could possibly ( i'm just speculating) mean that they just want to make people more aware that the character background is being looked into. At the same time though its a bit worrying if they are making changes like this on the sly.
Opens a huge can of worms if they are allowing people PR but the refusing them citizenship when nothing has changed as regards their criminal history - wonder if the long term aim is to tighten the visa rules themselves, more in line with canada or even the USA (heaven forbid!)
As an Aussie, I'd be bloody furious if someone with PR was denied citizenship for 25 year old convictions! I'll follow this with interest.
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