ianhutch1

Me too, surely she should be concentrating on her clients cases rather than what is on here.

Agree 100%

Couldnt agree more

Jamie Smith

The debate is about unregistered behaviour and means of communicating that, not the adherence to forum rules BEVS. BE have a right to ensure their rules of participation are adhered to. No debate there.

I'm not one BEVS I don't have any problem with people explaining their own circumstances, and many of them I admire for persistence, ambition and effort. All good characteristics of a good pioneer.

Forums are useful and I'm not against them. I've been using bulleting boards for chat before web based forums took off, from when internet access was $10 hour and my first monthly bill was over $1000..... I like them, the way they ebb and flow and reflect personalities, both real and assumed.

The issue becomes real when people tell, nay almost insist, that others follow their advice/assistance/guidance.

You asked for a quote, so here goes (at the risk of being tarred and feathered, I am putting this up for debate, not to restrict opinion).

From MARA website:

"What is a Migration Agent?
A migration agent is anyone who uses knowledge of migration procedures to offer advice or assistance to a person wishing to obtain a visa to enter or remain in Australia."
"An 'agent' includes lawyers and people who work for voluntary organisations and provide their advice free of charge."
"If you discover that a person in Australia has given you immigration assistance and they are unregistered, you should immediately contact the Department of Immigration."
"People who practice in Australia as unregistered migration agents may be subject to penalties, ranging from fines of up to $5,500 to imprisonment for up to 10 years."

I'm not a lawyer, but I would think a test case could be made to the point where it would be able to go to court to be decided, and not thrown out beforehand.

Who would actually face the charges is the grey area.
Your playground, your ball, your referee and your rules. So OK.

[QUOTE]At least people that offer their help and support for free have no underlying agenda. [QUOTE] Some might. Anti-agent if they feel ripped off. Anti-establishment if they hate Government created systems. Anti-capitalists if they hate businesses.... but I do agree many are genuine in their help, it's just your sweeping statement I disagree with.

A wise person once said "no generalisations are true, not even this one". :-)

With the number of direct requests of them and testimonials given free, I think you would agree the forum would be worse off without them?

Not trying to. No intention of writing to them.

I'm not one I think the IMO statistics are 20 million people move country each year.

I have to disagree there BEVS. Boat people/queue jumpers are not encouraged no matter their skills or ability to settle. Government pays close attention to HOW they get here. It's part of border protection I think. And Government policy here is swinging more towards focus on settlement abilities, the challenge is how to identify and formulate policy that attracts skilled and good settlers (hardest job in the world in my opinion)

Suggest another please!

BEVS

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Surprise Friend?



Umm. Pardon? You mean agent standards? Or her agent Standards? That doesn't condone the breaking and ignoring of BE rules or using phrasing that would cause un-necessary alarm or upset
Passionate should not be used in lieu of 'tunnel vision' . Tunnel vision is not an excuse for the aggressive ,alarmist behaviour and the trolling that has been experienced here.

Well yes Jamie. Given what has been seen from your friend here, I can quite understand that. Doesn't do well for the industry & 'the codes of conduct' as a whole, does it?

No ! Why? It is simple. Follow BE rules and there you go. Sweet as....


Well it may have been, if it had not been blown out of the water by her complete and utter mad and unreasonable behaviour. That is totally of her own doing too. Talk about shoot yourself in the foot or feet in her case. Does she have 4 perchance?

There is a real need for agents to be regulated. Otherwise it will be money, for worse , than old rope as has been seen in the past. There is also the need to watch for those that facilitate unscrupulous entry into a country . No-one will argue with that.

As it stands with this banned BE member. Large. Hole . Dig. Please place in any order.

Paul

Nobody is encouraging anybody else to break the law.

There is no case. Just somebody who broke the forum rules, was banned, now holds a grudge and has resorted to harassing the moderators and members of the site.

As the Bloke said in this post It is Liana that should be worried about action being taken against her.

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