Prospective Marriage Visa
Oct 26th 2008, 10:54 pm
#46
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Re: Prospective Marriage Visa
I recently got granted a PMV and I too suffered from depression, however mine was back in 2002/2003 and was actually quite serious which required hospital treatment and I was asked to provide an psychiatric assessment, however try not to worry as yours doesn't sound as bad as mine, but a letter from your GP with some details would help your cause. Like I say dont worry too much as mine was quite serious, yet after sending an assessment I was still granted a visa.
As for Stat Decs I had 2 done from friends of my OH who are both Oz citizens. At the end of the day if you tick all the boxes you should be fine. I know all too well about the worry, especially as I was very worried about my history of depression stopping me, but it didnt and im off to Brisbane in 4 weeks.
Oct 26th 2008, 11:08 pm
#47
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Re: Prospective Marriage Visa
Thanks for everyone's help and sorry if I am labouring a point but I have downloaded the Form 888 for statutory declarations and it does not include prospective marriage on the form.
"When assessing a Spouse or Interdependency visa application
the Department of Immigration and Citizenship
(the department) is required to consider the social aspects of
the claimed relationship. Statements from persons who know
you and your sponsor may be provided to support your
claims."
The form talks about spouse/de facto spouse/interdependency partner.
I have submitted an e-mail to immigration to see what they say.
I have no problem providing the information, as you say I will need to provide them when I apply for the spouse visa anyway, but their paperwork is very ambiguous. The prospective marriage visa application document checklist produced June 2008 (separate to application form checklist) does not mention statutory declarations either.
Will probably get them done anyway to be on the safe side.
I will let you know what immigration say.
Best wishes, Carolyn
"When assessing a Spouse or Interdependency visa application
the Department of Immigration and Citizenship
(the department) is required to consider the social aspects of
the claimed relationship. Statements from persons who know
you and your sponsor may be provided to support your
claims."
The form talks about spouse/de facto spouse/interdependency partner.
I have submitted an e-mail to immigration to see what they say.
I have no problem providing the information, as you say I will need to provide them when I apply for the spouse visa anyway, but their paperwork is very ambiguous. The prospective marriage visa application document checklist produced June 2008 (separate to application form checklist) does not mention statutory declarations either.
Will probably get them done anyway to be on the safe side.
I will let you know what immigration say.
Best wishes, Carolyn
Oct 26th 2008, 11:15 pm
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Re: Prospective Marriage Visa
Thanks
Yes please Carolyn that would be helpful!! Just had my OH on the phone and he is worried about getting them signed as not many people know me that well, I did meet his friends and family but we mainly focused on 'being together'. Just hoping my medicals are ok think I will crack up if they ask me for more stuff.....but i think that they just have to state that they are aware of our relationship and commitment to each other and how happy we are bla bla bla is that about right? I know im asking 1001 questions but just want to get it right. My sons dad is off to sols to get a stat declaration done to say I can take him.....which is good of him to let me go, so as soon as we get these 888 forms done should be ok.
I cant wait to get this behind me then all the fun and games will start again with the spouse visa.....do they ever refuse these prospective marriage visas? That worries me to.
Thanks guys
Jo
xx
Yes please Carolyn that would be helpful!! Just had my OH on the phone and he is worried about getting them signed as not many people know me that well, I did meet his friends and family but we mainly focused on 'being together'. Just hoping my medicals are ok think I will crack up if they ask me for more stuff.....but i think that they just have to state that they are aware of our relationship and commitment to each other and how happy we are bla bla bla is that about right? I know im asking 1001 questions but just want to get it right. My sons dad is off to sols to get a stat declaration done to say I can take him.....which is good of him to let me go, so as soon as we get these 888 forms done should be ok.
I cant wait to get this behind me then all the fun and games will start again with the spouse visa.....do they ever refuse these prospective marriage visas? That worries me to.
Thanks guys
Jo
xx
Last edited by halfpint74; Oct 26th 2008 at 11:17 pm. Reason: forgot to add something
Oct 26th 2008, 11:48 pm
#49
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Re: Prospective Marriage Visa
Thanks
Yes please Carolyn that would be helpful!! Just had my OH on the phone and he is worried about getting them signed as not many people know me that well, I did meet his friends and family but we mainly focused on 'being together'. Just hoping my medicals are ok think I will crack up if they ask me for more stuff.....but i think that they just have to state that they are aware of our relationship and commitment to each other and how happy we are bla bla bla is that about right? I know im asking 1001 questions but just want to get it right. My sons dad is off to sols to get a stat declaration done to say I can take him.....which is good of him to let me go, so as soon as we get these 888 forms done should be ok.
I cant wait to get this behind me then all the fun and games will start again with the spouse visa.....do they ever refuse these prospective marriage visas? That worries me to.
Thanks guys
Jo
xx
Yes please Carolyn that would be helpful!! Just had my OH on the phone and he is worried about getting them signed as not many people know me that well, I did meet his friends and family but we mainly focused on 'being together'. Just hoping my medicals are ok think I will crack up if they ask me for more stuff.....but i think that they just have to state that they are aware of our relationship and commitment to each other and how happy we are bla bla bla is that about right? I know im asking 1001 questions but just want to get it right. My sons dad is off to sols to get a stat declaration done to say I can take him.....which is good of him to let me go, so as soon as we get these 888 forms done should be ok.
I cant wait to get this behind me then all the fun and games will start again with the spouse visa.....do they ever refuse these prospective marriage visas? That worries me to.
Thanks guys
Jo
xx
Try not to worry about your visa being refused, you are in a genuine relationship and so they have no reason to refuse you - try to keep that in the forefront of your mind. I worried too, but each time I did, I just repeated that to myself as a kind of mantra! They aren't inhuman at the DIAC and I'm sure your love/commitment to each other shone through in your own statements.
Oct 27th 2008, 8:57 am
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Re: Prospective Marriage Visa
Thanks
Yes our statements were lovely and when I read my OH statement I started balling my eyes out and he said he did the same with mine, I still read it every now and then when Im on a low. I know I am going to get there but really awful going through this....wish I had a date so I can start counting down to be with him again.
Yes our statements were lovely and when I read my OH statement I started balling my eyes out and he said he did the same with mine, I still read it every now and then when Im on a low. I know I am going to get there but really awful going through this....wish I had a date so I can start counting down to be with him again.
Oct 27th 2008, 10:17 am
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Re: Prospective Marriage Visa
Thanks
Yes our statements were lovely and when I read my OH statement I started balling my eyes out and he said he did the same with mine, I still read it every now and then when Im on a low. I know I am going to get there but really awful going through this....wish I had a date so I can start counting down to be with him again.
Yes our statements were lovely and when I read my OH statement I started balling my eyes out and he said he did the same with mine, I still read it every now and then when Im on a low. I know I am going to get there but really awful going through this....wish I had a date so I can start counting down to be with him again.
Poor immigration people had reams of my waffling to wade through! I think for the next stage I'll do an abridged version.
Nov 6th 2008, 8:13 pm
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Re: Prospective Marriage Visa
Hiya Guys
Just got my laptop bak from being fixed and wondered how everyone was getting on...any good news yet Carolyn?
Well we have submitted our stat decs in and doc never filled my sons medical form in right so that has gone off to them in london....so hopefully now just waiting for the nod.....
Im wanting to fly around 12 december so i can be with my OH for christmas but need to work 4 weeks notice....do you think it would be too risky to put it in now so by the time my 4 weeks is up I will hopefully have my visa through.....flight fares are going up all the time and now have hardly any furniture left in house trying to raise the cash for them....£3,000 for me and the kids....ouch!!! anyone know a cheap airline apart from Cathay Pacific who were not that good.
Jo
xxx
Just got my laptop bak from being fixed and wondered how everyone was getting on...any good news yet Carolyn?
Well we have submitted our stat decs in and doc never filled my sons medical form in right so that has gone off to them in london....so hopefully now just waiting for the nod.....
Im wanting to fly around 12 december so i can be with my OH for christmas but need to work 4 weeks notice....do you think it would be too risky to put it in now so by the time my 4 weeks is up I will hopefully have my visa through.....flight fares are going up all the time and now have hardly any furniture left in house trying to raise the cash for them....£3,000 for me and the kids....ouch!!! anyone know a cheap airline apart from Cathay Pacific who were not that good.
Jo
xxx
Nov 7th 2008, 10:31 am
#53
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Re: Prospective Marriage Visa
hi saw your reply here we have just been granted our PR visa and hopefully moving in feb. We are looking at flights and have come across a great web site thats cheap. We got a one way flight for about £570 each, also if you get a one way flight some airlines are giving you double the baggage allowance but only if you enquire about it.
Its www.netflights.com
hope this helps
Emma
and good luck
Its www.netflights.com
hope this helps
Emma
and good luck
Nov 7th 2008, 7:30 pm
#54
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Re: Prospective Marriage Visa
Hiya Guys
Just got my laptop bak from being fixed and wondered how everyone was getting on...any good news yet Carolyn?
Well we have submitted our stat decs in and doc never filled my sons medical form in right so that has gone off to them in london....so hopefully now just waiting for the nod.....
Im wanting to fly around 12 december so i can be with my OH for christmas but need to work 4 weeks notice....do you think it would be too risky to put it in now so by the time my 4 weeks is up I will hopefully have my visa through.....flight fares are going up all the time and now have hardly any furniture left in house trying to raise the cash for them....£3,000 for me and the kids....ouch!!! anyone know a cheap airline apart from Cathay Pacific who were not that good.
Jo
xxx
Just got my laptop bak from being fixed and wondered how everyone was getting on...any good news yet Carolyn?
Well we have submitted our stat decs in and doc never filled my sons medical form in right so that has gone off to them in london....so hopefully now just waiting for the nod.....
Im wanting to fly around 12 december so i can be with my OH for christmas but need to work 4 weeks notice....do you think it would be too risky to put it in now so by the time my 4 weeks is up I will hopefully have my visa through.....flight fares are going up all the time and now have hardly any furniture left in house trying to raise the cash for them....£3,000 for me and the kids....ouch!!! anyone know a cheap airline apart from Cathay Pacific who were not that good.
Jo
xxx
Hi Jo
This is the response that I received from immigration about statutory declarations for the prospective marriage visa.
"You may submit your application without statutory declarations. If we require any we will ask you for them during the processing period."
Regards
Carolyn
Nov 8th 2008, 5:39 pm
#55
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Re: Prospective Marriage Visa
Did you read the partner booklet from DIAC - that tells you that you need Stat Decs from friends and family.
http://www.immi.gov.au/allforms/booklets/1127.pdf
They should talk about how they know you as a couple, how often they see you, how they view your relationship, and how they see you making commitments to each other, that sort of thing. Your family can talk about how they look forward to welcoming your partner into the family and how any kids are looking forward to having a new Uncle (my sister's kids did that bit!). You best friend might like to write about how she is looking forward to coming to Australia to meet your new partner and how you have talked to her about your plans for the future together.
DIAC needs to see that other people view this as a genuine relationship. If you search BE for threads on Spouse Visa Stat Decs you'll find loads of info on them.
If you are getting Stat Decs from Aussies, then they need to attach proof of their PR status or citizenship. If they aren't Aussies, no need to worry. Also an Aussie has to use form 888. If you look at this form it also gives you some hints about the sort of thing you should write.
http://www.immi.gov.au/allforms/pdf/888.pdf
Its also laid out in the partner booklet that you must show that the child's other parent consents to the move
http://www.immi.gov.au/allforms/booklets/1127.pdf
They should talk about how they know you as a couple, how often they see you, how they view your relationship, and how they see you making commitments to each other, that sort of thing. Your family can talk about how they look forward to welcoming your partner into the family and how any kids are looking forward to having a new Uncle (my sister's kids did that bit!). You best friend might like to write about how she is looking forward to coming to Australia to meet your new partner and how you have talked to her about your plans for the future together.
DIAC needs to see that other people view this as a genuine relationship. If you search BE for threads on Spouse Visa Stat Decs you'll find loads of info on them.
If you are getting Stat Decs from Aussies, then they need to attach proof of their PR status or citizenship. If they aren't Aussies, no need to worry. Also an Aussie has to use form 888. If you look at this form it also gives you some hints about the sort of thing you should write.
http://www.immi.gov.au/allforms/pdf/888.pdf
Its also laid out in the partner booklet that you must show that the child's other parent consents to the move
Nov 9th 2008, 7:14 am
#56
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Re: Prospective Marriage Visa
I was in the same confusion about stat decs. and contacted immigration. Their reply which I posted earlier was that you don't need to send any with your application. If they need them they will ask for them during the processing period.
I have decided to get them done anyway. If I don't and then they ask for them it will delay things. Makes sense to get them done to cover all bases.
Hope this clarifies things
Carolyn
Nov 9th 2008, 10:00 am
#57
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Re: Prospective Marriage Visa
Thank you very much. Like you I think I will get them anyway to avoid any possible delays.
Best wishes - Denise
Best wishes - Denise
Nov 9th 2008, 4:12 pm
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Re: Prospective Marriage Visa
Congratulations on your engagement!!
We didnt think we needed them and were asked for them so I would, would save you a week or so...time is precious being away from our OH's.
Good luck, had ours in four weeks now so hopefully just waiting for the nod to go!!!
Jo
xx
We didnt think we needed them and were asked for them so I would, would save you a week or so...time is precious being away from our OH's.
Good luck, had ours in four weeks now so hopefully just waiting for the nod to go!!!
Jo
xx
Nov 9th 2008, 5:21 pm
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I sent my application with everything attached - stat decs, meds, police checks etc and from the time Immi received it til when my visa was granted was just 2 weeks!! Personally, i would suggest including EVERYTHING from the start.
Nov 9th 2008, 5:29 pm
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That must have been an absolutely wonderful feeling. Reading this website it seems a lot of applications go through quite quickly. it is almost a concern that if it happens too quickly my initial entry date by which I would need to enter Australia would be too soon for the date we have in mind from when it would be good for me to make the move i.e. end of March 2009 earliest! Perhaps I should write some sort of letter explaining the timeline we were hoping for!
Thanks for comments so far.
Thanks for comments so far.