Astrid

Hi

I've asked this question before in here, but no one seemed to know.
I promise I won't ask anymore, if I get no answers this time, I'll just give it one more go:

If one is applying for a 457 visa as a "Sales and Marketing manager", and one's annnual salary is above 100 k, and one is from a non-english country, would one then have to sit the Ielts test?

And if you do, would you have to score 5 i each band, or 6 or (God forbid it) 7?

I've read about english exemptions on immi gov webpage, and the salary is one of them. However my husbands company says he has to do it regardless, being from a non-english country. (They have not hired an agent, since they believe they can manage on their own). I am not sure they are right, since the salary exemption seem to stand on it's own, having nothing to do with where one is from.

And I just cant find a place where it says for each occupation what band will be needed when going on a 457, other than the general band 5 (I only know that engineers and teachers need more than this).

Please, if anyone knows anything, share it.....Thank you so much in advance for any response!!

irishbloo

I am afraid one doesnt know but hopefully some one will pop along shortly to help.Looking at it your english seems good.

Dorothy

If you have asked twice before (and I believe you have) and nobody knew the answer, it's unlikely they will now. Why not just contact a MARA registered migration agent and ask? Or how about ringing DIAC and asking them?

Astrid

Why not just? I was hoping to get the answer for free in here, who can blame me
I have called Diac, and so has the company that is sponsoring my husband. We got two very different answers.
I will - of course - ask a an agent, if this last request doesn't hand me a bonus, but perhaps I'm lucky this time

Anyway, thank you for responding...all of you.

lloydk

The website says that the English language requirement has to be met with an IELTS of 5 unless he/she is exempt by occupation or income. So I think the answer is simple. Your employer maybe asking you to do it 'just to be on the safe side'. Getting an IELTS 5 is anyway really easy to achieve for a basic command of the language.

Astrid

thank you
However, what I am worrying about is whether the occupation Sales Manager (as it is in skills goup 1 like for ekample doctors or engineers), needs a higher score, and if so which. If he "only" has to get 5, I think he'll get by through practising. However, nothing is "easy" for a person not born in an English speaking country I do believe that ielts is alot about picking up the right method, the way they do it...Practise, here we come:=)

Bermudashorts

http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/skill...employee.htm#f

Why do you not believe the link? If it doesn't say this is a different level for certain occupations then why are you looking for complications..

I could be wrong but I didn't think DIAC ever asks for special IELTS results for certain professions anyway, it is the skills assessment body that sometimes will and as you are applying for a temporary visa you aren't doing a skills assessment.

Rossi

I fail to see how your going to manage in a sales environment in an English speaking country if you do not attain at least a 7 on the test, unless the product is going to be aimed at non English speaking customers

Astrid

I do not agree. Someone could be great at English and communicating with ease in his or her work (sales) environment and stil get - say 6.5 in one of the different test sections for various reasons, just like some people become top doctors, lawyers or whatever, without having been being particularly amazing at school. Sometimes the score follows reality, othertimes it does not. So of course one should worry. My husband is great at English, but could still easily get below band 7 in any section...But with a lot of studying we hope for the best

Astrid

Just writing to say that we have finally have found out, that as a "Sales and marketing manager", going for a 457 visa, One does NOT have to sit the ielts test woohoo.
They (DIAC) can however ask my husband to proove that he can speak properly English, which will not be a problem (they will accept statements from former employers and stuff like that).
Sometimes it pays of to keep on looking into these things

Majelan

To me this response hits the point!

Alfresco

Indeed it does!

I wish you both all the very best for your visa application.

...and on that happy note, I'll close this thread.