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Over it...
Had a call from our MA this morning to say that our case has been referred to the policy makers at Canberra due to a question over the legitimacy of my academic qualifications.
Our story is quite protracted. We arrived here back in Feb 2006 on a 457 visa, and submitted for a skills assessment to the ACS with both HNC in Software Engineering and Novell CNE qualifications behind me. The assessment was accepted and were informed that we satisified the requirements of Group B. I queried at the time why I had been assesed on the HNC rather than the CNE and was told that this was the higher and more appropriate qualification hence why I was assesed as a 2231-19, rather than as a systems manager. I even did my IELTS for the extra points that would provide. We lodged our 176 application in August 2008. I changed companies on May 2009 and was granted a new 457. When the changes last year were announced, we were told that it would be 2012 before our application was likely to be considered, so talked to my current company who agreed to sponsor through ENS. Our existing application was converted from 176 to 121, so that we would not have to repay the fees. The employer nomination was approved three weeks back and the MA informed us yesterday that the CO was finalising the case. Today she called back to say that the CO had questioned whether the HNC was an appropriate qualification, and that it would be referred to the policy makers in Canberra for a decision. However, the CO did not believe that the qualification was equivalent to an Australian diploma. So the worst case scenario is that our application, despite being approved by ACS and having been verified by the migration agent, will be rejected. In which case we have been told that we will need to resubmit the application and pay a new application fee under another category I really don't know whether I can do this anymore, if nothing else from a financial perspective. My daughter is in school paying international fees, we are being hammered on the overseas visitor medical insurance and we lost our LAFHA over two years ago. I know that things could be a lot worse, but I wonder whether we should just cut our losses and go home. |
Re: Over it...
Originally Posted by Sattman
(Post 8866808)
Had a call from our MA this morning to say that our case has been referred to the policy makers at Canberra due to a question over the legitimacy of my academic qualifications.
Our story is quite protracted. We arrived here back in Feb 2006 on a 457 visa, and submitted for a skills assessment to the ACS with both HNC in Software Engineering and Novell CNE qualifications behind me. The assessment was accepted and were informed that we satisified the requirements of Group B. I queried at the time why I had been assesed on the HNC rather than the CNE and was told that this was the higher and more appropriate qualification hence why I was assesed as a 2231-19, rather than as a systems manager. I even did my IELTS for the extra points that would provide. We lodged our 176 application in August 2008. I changed companies on May 2009 and was granted a new 457. When the changes last year were announced, we were told that it would be 2012 before our application was likely to be considered, so talked to my current company who agreed to sponsor through ENS. Our existing application was converted from 176 to 121, so that we would not have to repay the fees. The employer nomination was approved three weeks back and the MA informed us yesterday that the CO was finalising the case. Today she called back to say that the CO had questioned whether the HNC was an appropriate qualification, and that it would be referred to the policy makers in Canberra for a decision. However, the CO did not believe that the qualification was equivalent to an Australian diploma. So the worst case scenario is that our application, despite being approved by ACS and having been verified by the migration agent, will be rejected. In which case we have been told that we will need to resubmit the application and pay a new application fee under another category I really don't know whether I can do this anymore, if nothing else from a financial perspective. My daughter is in school paying international fees, we are being hammered on the overseas visitor medical insurance and we lost our LAFHA over two years ago. I know that things could be a lot worse, but I wonder whether we should just cut our losses and go home. NEVER SURENDER The show has been cancelled but the adventure is just beginning |
Re: Over it...
Originally Posted by Sattman
(Post 8866808)
Had a call from our MA this morning to say that our case has been referred to the policy makers at Canberra due to a question over the legitimacy of my academic qualifications.
Our story is quite protracted. We arrived here back in Feb 2006 on a 457 visa, and submitted for a skills assessment to the ACS with both HNC in Software Engineering and Novell CNE qualifications behind me. The assessment was accepted and were informed that we satisified the requirements of Group B. I queried at the time why I had been assesed on the HNC rather than the CNE and was told that this was the higher and more appropriate qualification hence why I was assesed as a 2231-19, rather than as a systems manager. I even did my IELTS for the extra points that would provide. We lodged our 176 application in August 2008. I changed companies on May 2009 and was granted a new 457. When the changes last year were announced, we were told that it would be 2012 before our application was likely to be considered, so talked to my current company who agreed to sponsor through ENS. Our existing application was converted from 176 to 121, so that we would not have to repay the fees. The employer nomination was approved three weeks back and the MA informed us yesterday that the CO was finalising the case. Today she called back to say that the CO had questioned whether the HNC was an appropriate qualification, and that it would be referred to the policy makers in Canberra for a decision. However, the CO did not believe that the qualification was equivalent to an Australian diploma. So the worst case scenario is that our application, despite being approved by ACS and having been verified by the migration agent, will be rejected. In which case we have been told that we will need to resubmit the application and pay a new application fee under another category I really don't know whether I can do this anymore, if nothing else from a financial perspective. My daughter is in school paying international fees, we are being hammered on the overseas visitor medical insurance and we lost our LAFHA over two years ago. I know that things could be a lot worse, but I wonder whether we should just cut our losses and go home. :fingerscrossed: it turns out OK for you :) |
Re: Over it...
Originally Posted by Sattman
(Post 8866808)
Had a call from our MA this morning to say that our case has been referred to the policy makers at Canberra due to a question over the legitimacy of my academic qualifications.
Our story is quite protracted. We arrived here back in Feb 2006 on a 457 visa, and submitted for a skills assessment to the ACS with both HNC in Software Engineering and Novell CNE qualifications behind me. The assessment was accepted and were informed that we satisified the requirements of Group B. I queried at the time why I had been assesed on the HNC rather than the CNE and was told that this was the higher and more appropriate qualification hence why I was assesed as a 2231-19, rather than as a systems manager. I even did my IELTS for the extra points that would provide. We lodged our 176 application in August 2008. I changed companies on May 2009 and was granted a new 457. When the changes last year were announced, we were told that it would be 2012 before our application was likely to be considered, so talked to my current company who agreed to sponsor through ENS. Our existing application was converted from 176 to 121, so that we would not have to repay the fees. The employer nomination was approved three weeks back and the MA informed us yesterday that the CO was finalising the case. Today she called back to say that the CO had questioned whether the HNC was an appropriate qualification, and that it would be referred to the policy makers in Canberra for a decision. However, the CO did not believe that the qualification was equivalent to an Australian diploma. So the worst case scenario is that our application, despite being approved by ACS and having been verified by the migration agent, will be rejected. In which case we have been told that we will need to resubmit the application and pay a new application fee under another category I really don't know whether I can do this anymore, if nothing else from a financial perspective. My daughter is in school paying international fees, we are being hammered on the overseas visitor medical insurance and we lost our LAFHA over two years ago. I know that things could be a lot worse, but I wonder whether we should just cut our losses and go home. |
Re: Over it...
OK - so this afternoon things have taken a turn for the very bizarre.
We have received a mail from the Adelaide team requesting new copies of biodata pages and police checks relating to our original 175 application from 2008. This is from a different CO to the one from the original post. It seems to me that something has become incredibly screwed up, and our 175 application (with a valid ACS assessment) has dropped into the lap of a CO within a couple of days of our ENS application (on which they are taking policy advice over my level of qualification) dropping into the lap of a CO in Parramatta. My understanding is that the ENS should have superceded the 175. Our MA is a very well known global company that specialises in providing visa services to businesses, however I am starting to have grave concerns about what is going on, particularly as there have been a number of occurrences where things that seemed obvious to us were missed. Are any of the MAs who visit the board prepared to offer an opinion ? If any of you are based in Sydney, quite happy to put some dollars on the table to walk through this and get some reassurance that my current MA are not incompetent, and are not destroying our visa hopes. Also whether we should continue with the 175, as that now seems to be the most likely way of getting the visa |
Re: Over it...
Sorry to hear the bad news, however, from my understanding, a HNC is not a Diploma.
HN"C" = Certificate HN"D" = Diploma |
Re: Over it...
Originally Posted by paddyb157
(Post 8869926)
Sorry to hear the bad news, however, from my understanding, a HNC is not a Diploma.
HN"C" = Certificate HN"D" = Diploma And is at the same level as HND in the national qualification framework ? But anyway, that's yesterdays issue :blink: |
Re: Over it...
Quick update for anyone interested. Looks like this has been the most bizarre week.
In the same week that our ENS has been referred to Canberra, we were also granted a CO for our original 175 application who according to our MA is close to finalising. Its fair to say that its been a stressful week. Somewhere along the line I've missed a change in policy as the purpose in applying for ENS was due to the announcement that we wre unlikely to get our GCM CO until 2012. The current processing mail stats that they are now processing non CSL \ SOL GSM applications : Current Processing Dates If your application date has recently come into our current processing date range you should allow at least 6 weeks to enable a case officer to complete the initial assessment. Please refrain from sending requests for an update on the status of your application within this 6 week period. Priority Processed Applications Under the priority processing direction we are currently processing applications with a nominated occupation on the new Skilled Occupation List (SOL) – Schedule 3. Applications lodged before the following dates are currently being considered by a case officer: Skilled – Independent (Migrant) subclass 175 VE 175 (e-lodged): 10 June 2008 VE 175 (paper): 10 June 2008 Skilled – Sponsored (Migrant) subclass 176 VE 176 (e-lodged): 10 June 2008 VE 176 (paper): 10 June 2008 Skilled – Regional Sponsored (Provisional) subclass 475 VF 475 (e-lodged): 10 June 2008 VF 475 (paper): 10 June 2008 Skilled – Independent Regional (Provisional) subclass 495 and Skilled – Designated Area Sponsored subclass 496 UX 495 and UZ 496 (e-lodged and paper): All applicants who have an occupation on the new Skilled Occupation List (SOL) – Schedule 3 have been allocated. Skilled – Independent (Residence) subclass 885 VB (paper): 9 February 2009 Skilled – Sponsored (Residence) subclass 886 VB 886 (paper): 9 February 2009 Skilled – Regional Sponsored (Provisional) subclass 487 VC 487 (paper): 20 February 2009 :fingerscrossed: Just want to get it all over with now..... |
Re: Over it...
Originally Posted by paddyb157
(Post 8869926)
Sorry to hear the bad news, however, from my understanding, a HNC is not a Diploma.
HN"C" = Certificate HN"D" = Diploma HND= 16 units HNC= 10 units |
Re: Over it...
It's better than a NVQ.
'Not Very Quick'. |
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