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Old Jan 16th 2004, 3:04 am
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Hi,

Just dipping my toe in at this stage...
Would love to move to Aus but before I begin any serious planning I am
trying to understand my chances of success in obtaining a Visa.

I would probably apply for a general skilled migration visa having had a
quick look at the official immigration site.

I am 32, married with 3 kids - all UK citizens.

My question (prob 1st of many so apologies in advance...)
I am an IT Project Manager and have been for the last 3 years, prior to
which was a Problem Manager and prior to that a Service Delivery Manager -
so my skill set should fall under IT Manager in the ICT Classifications
published by the ACS.
My concern is that although it has not affected my career one iota I do not
have a degree and all my positions have been earnt through experience.
Does this immediately count against me when having my skills assesed?

Ques2 - If I apply for the skilled immig can I change career once in Aus? -
(lifestyle upgrade desire includes me not staring at PC screen 9-5)

Ques3 - If I go the business visa route - does buying and running a farm
qualify?

Thanks very much
 
Old Jan 16th 2004, 4:01 am
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Default Re: no degree but pleanty of experience - is it worth it?

Originally posted by Sg
Hi,

Just dipping my toe in at this stage...
Would love to move to Aus but before I begin any serious planning I am
trying to understand my chances of success in obtaining a Visa.

I would probably apply for a general skilled migration visa having had a
quick look at the official immigration site.

I am 32, married with 3 kids - all UK citizens.

My question (prob 1st of many so apologies in advance...)
I am an IT Project Manager and have been for the last 3 years, prior to
which was a Problem Manager and prior to that a Service Delivery Manager -
so my skill set should fall under IT Manager in the ICT Classifications
published by the ACS.
My concern is that although it has not affected my career one iota I do not
have a degree and all my positions have been earnt through experience.
Does this immediately count against me when having my skills assesed?
You would have to go the RPL way, but this will need you to have 6 to 8 years professional IT experience.

Ques2 - If I apply for the skilled immig can I change career once in Aus? -
(lifestyle upgrade desire includes me not staring at PC screen 9-5)
Yes. once you are a PR, you can work in any activity you like...

Ques3 - If I go the business visa route - does buying and running a farm
qualify?

Thanks very much
Sorry, but this one I have no idea...
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Old Jan 16th 2004, 6:25 am
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Default Re: no degree but pleanty of experience - is it worth it?

Give it a go, if you don't you will regret for the rest of your life.

I went though the RPL process (Agent helped as it is very complicated) I needed either a degree or 6 years experience in the IT field. I had enough experience and with the proffessional qualifications (Microsoft & Internet Quals) I had I got the full 60 points, worth while trying to get an MCSE, or an MCSA (4 Exams) this should guarentee success.

As for question 2 yes you can do anything you want, I think I should be working in IT to get some money flowing but I do not intend to work in IT for the rest of my life!!!

Cannot help with question 3 but there was a program on Channel 4 last night "A new life down under" where the Dad emigrated on a business visa and I think the only thing he had to do was setup a business and employ two Ozzies within two years. The program is repeated somtine this week on C4.

You must do it, all my family and freinds are now in OZ and will never look back. I am the last of my clan.

CHeers
Peter & Family.
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Old Jan 16th 2004, 7:04 pm
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Default Re: no degree but pleanty of experience - is it worth it?

    >sg wrote:
    >
    > My question (prob 1st of many so apologies in advance...)
    > I am an IT Project Manager and have been for the last 3 years, prior to
    > which was a Problem Manager and prior to that a Service Delivery Manager -
    > so my skill set should fall under IT Manager in the ICT Classifications
    > published by the ACS.
    > My concern is that although it has not affected my career one iota I do not
    > have a degree and all my positions have been earnt through experience.
    > Does this immediately count against me when having my skills assesed?

With ACS it's harder without a degree, but not impossible because of the
RPL process. You need 6 years professional IT experience if you have a
qualification (any subject) equivalent to an Australian diploma, 8 years
otherwise, to have a chance for RPL.


    >
    > Ques2 - If I apply for the skilled immig can I change career once in Aus? -
    > (lifestyle upgrade desire includes me not staring at PC screen 9-5)

With a general skilled visa, yes you can.

    >
    > Ques3 - If I go the business visa route - does buying and running a farm
    > qualify?

You need to have a track record in business already before you can even
think about business migration. And business skills is now a temp visa
initially (most cases) with PR only coming later on if your business
plans work out. You really do need to know what you're doing with
business skills otherwise you can end up in a complete mess.

Jeremy
 
Old Jan 16th 2004, 9:51 pm
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hI

Does an MCSA put you into group B of ACS?

"peterankin" <member19142@british_expats.com> wrote in message
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    > Give it a go, if you don't you will regret for the rest of your life.
    > I went though the RPL process (Agent helped as it is very complicated) I
    > needed either a degree or 6 years experience in the IT field. I had
    > enough experience and with the proffessional qualifications (Microsoft &
    > Internet Quals) I had I got the full 60 points, worth while trying to
    > get an MCSE, or an MCSA (4 Exams) this should guarentee success.
    > As for question 2 yes you can do anything you want, I think I should be
    > working in IT to get some money flowing but I do not intend to work in
    > IT for the rest of my life!!!
    > Cannot help with question 3 but there was a program on Channel 4 last
    > night "A new life down under" where the Dad emigrated on a business
    > visa and I think the only thing he had to do was setup a business and
    > employ two Ozzies within two years. The program is repeated somtine
    > this week on C4.
    > You must do it, all my family and freinds are now in OZ and will never
    > look back. I am the last of my clan.
    > CHeers
    > Peter & Family.
    > --
    > Posted via http://britishexpats.com
 
Old Jan 22nd 2004, 6:18 am
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"RPL process" sorry what's RPL stand for?
I to have (10 years of) experience but no degree in Telecommunications and
IT sales & sales / product management, the dream of sponsored skilled
migration is fading fast. This hurts particularly as the UK appears to open
its doors to anyone who breaths while as a self sufficient person confident
of good AU employment plus the fact I have good equity to take to AU that I
could live on for many years if needed however it appears I cant go anywhere
because I don't have the formal degree! Perhaps I should give up everything
reapply as a refugee or something I may stand more chance! Good luck,
please let me know of any opportunities to improve chances without a
degree.....yes I know "study for a degree" but that's 3 years before I can
even apply if I pass, I'm 34 not 24 so not sure if student life is my bag
anymore ;-)

Aid.


"JAJ" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > >sg wrote:
    > >
    > > My question (prob 1st of many so apologies in advance...)
    > > I am an IT Project Manager and have been for the last 3 years, prior to
    > > which was a Problem Manager and prior to that a Service Delivery
Manager -
    > > so my skill set should fall under IT Manager in the ICT Classifications
    > > published by the ACS.
    > > My concern is that although it has not affected my career one iota I do
not
    > > have a degree and all my positions have been earnt through experience.
    > > Does this immediately count against me when having my skills assesed?
    > With ACS it's harder without a degree, but not impossible because of the
    > RPL process. You need 6 years professional IT experience if you have a
    > qualification (any subject) equivalent to an Australian diploma, 8 years
    > otherwise, to have a chance for RPL.
    > >
    > > Ques2 - If I apply for the skilled immig can I change career once in
Aus? -
    > > (lifestyle upgrade desire includes me not staring at PC screen 9-5)
    > With a general skilled visa, yes you can.
    > >
    > > Ques3 - If I go the business visa route - does buying and running a farm
    > > qualify?
    > You need to have a track record in business already before you can even
    > think about business migration. And business skills is now a temp visa
    > initially (most cases) with PR only coming later on if your business
    > plans work out. You really do need to know what you're doing with
    > business skills otherwise you can end up in a complete mess.
    > Jeremy
 

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