New point test available NOW on DIAC site

Old Nov 11th 2010, 2:32 am
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Hi

Here are the new point system links from DIAC

http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/gener...oints-fact.pdf

http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/gener...ts-testfaq.pdf

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Originally Posted by mandhani
Initial summary from MIA is as follows:

• Distinction between 40/50/60 point occupations abolished, those points removed from test
• Age points adjusted to reflect productive working years rather than youth
• Additional 10 point differential introduced for “Superior English” language ability (IELTS 8)
• Additional points for extended periods of employment in Australia
• Additional points for longer periods of professional experience generally
• Considerable additional points for university graduates, particularly for applicants with PhDs
• Relative advantages of trade and degree qualified occupations have been reversed
• Regional nomination and family sponsorship points reduced
• No indication of difference between independent and sponsored pass marks at this stage
• Pass mark of 65


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wow.. another change already finalised.. while everyone is just about getting acquainted with the changes of July 1, 2010, a plan for July 1, 2011 is already out..
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I'd be interested to know if the work experience has to be full-time or not.

Anyway, I think it's a positive change ... thumbs up for the extra points for English, even though I don't think it makes much sense to require 8 points out of 9 for IELTS in all 4 bands - that's something unachievable for non-native English speakers. I got 8 out of 9 in average but I don't think I could ever get 8 out of 9 in each band at the same time.

On another note, I know a couple of people that have been in Australia for 10+ years, studying, working, they're professionals. Their occupations are not on the new skills list and they still can't stay here - even though they've got perfect English and they're now fully integrated into the society. They work as graphic designers.
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Originally Posted by mirob
I'd be interested to know if the work experience has to be full-time or not.

Anyway, I think it's a positive change ... thumbs up for the extra points for English, even though I don't think it makes much sense to require 8 points out of 9 for IELTS in all 4 bands - that's something unachievable for non-native English speakers. I got 8 out of 9 in average but I don't think I could ever get 8 out of 9 in each band at the same time.

On another note, I know a couple of people that have been in Australia for 10+ years, studying, working, they're professionals. Their occupations are not on the new skills list and they still can't stay here - even though they've got perfect English and they're now fully integrated into the society. They work as graphic designers.
I am non native. I scored 8.5 IELTS. And atleast 8 in every module. A friend of mine who is also non native, scored a perfect 9 in IELTS
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Originally Posted by mirob
I'd be interested to know if the work experience has to be full-time or not.

Anyway, I think it's a positive change ... thumbs up for the extra points for English, even though I don't think it makes much sense to require 8 points out of 9 for IELTS in all 4 bands - that's something unachievable for non-native English speakers. I got 8 out of 9 in average but I don't think I could ever get 8 out of 9 in each band at the same time.

On another note, I know a couple of people that have been in Australia for 10+ years, studying, working, they're professionals. Their occupations are not on the new skills list and they still can't stay here - even though they've got perfect English and they're now fully integrated into the society. They work as graphic designers.
Document on DIAC website does not specifically state if it is 8 in each band or average score. Something they need to clarify asap.
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Originally Posted by gr8leo87
I am non native. I scored 8.5 IELTS. And atleast 8 in every module. A friend of mine who is also non native, scored a perfect 9 in IELTS
There must be something wrong with me then!
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Originally Posted by capetosydney
Document on DIAC website does not specifically state if it is 8 in each band or average score. Something they need to clarify asap.
From http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/gener...ts-testfaq.pdf

- Superior English (a score of at least 8 in each of the four components of the IELTS test).

- Proficient English (a score of at least 7 in each of the four components of the IELTS test).
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Hi George,

They have mentioned they are giving 10 points to a bachelor degree,what about profesionbnal qualifications like CIMA and ACCA they are considered as equivalent or higher than bachelors,so a person with CIMA qualification can gain the same mark awarded for bachelors ?
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Originally Posted by George Lombard
Initial summary from MIA is as follows:

• Distinction between 40/50/60 point occupations abolished, those points removed from test
• Age points adjusted to reflect productive working years rather than youth
• Additional 10 point differential introduced for “Superior English” language ability (IELTS 8)
• Additional points for extended periods of employment in Australia
• Additional points for longer periods of professional experience generally
• Considerable additional points for university graduates, particularly for applicants with PhDs
• Relative advantages of trade and degree qualified occupations have been reversed
• Regional nomination and family sponsorship points reduced
• No indication of difference between independent and sponsored pass marks at this stage
• Pass mark of 65


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I have done graduation in Computer science, BSc (Hons) degree in Computing. Its three year degree.. How much points I will get ?
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Though the new point system is very tough and targeted but still I do appreciate DIAC decision makers. This new point system will give them the cream resources from the world

Thanks.

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Very simple point test to attract native English speakers, not asians
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Originally Posted by samsuchi
Very simple point test to attract native English speakers, not asians
I may agree with you. Because native speakers can easily score 20 points for language but for Asians even scoring 10 points will be tough
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Originally Posted by samsuchi
Very simple point test to attract native English speakers, not asians
Good point, though even if you've studied in Australia for 2 years and gained 1 year of work experience back home and 1 year through the Professional Year programme, you still get 65 points with no English.

age 30 + english 0 + work experience 5 + overseas work experience 5 + bachelor 15 + australian study 5 + professional year 5 = 65 points
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So from what I can work out, they will be assigning points to job related (trade qualifications) nearer the time?
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