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Old May 21st 2002, 9:20 pm
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Noiseboy
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My partner has recently had her trade assessed by TRA as a Chef ASCO code 3322-11.
This is precisely what it says on the TRA assessment. All of the definitions we have
seen of this code are Chef - Head Chef. This IS exactly what my partner is and has
been for several years. We were just trying to confirm that my partners' trade is
still currently on the MODL list. Worried about five points and the implications of
dropping from the list I suppose. We are on the verge of submitting our application.
Whilst looking for the current MODL list on DIMA's website I came across the current
Skilled Occupations List

http://www.immi.gov.au/allforms/sol3.htm

To our horror it lists Chef - Head Chef as ASCO code 3322-01 and 3322-11 is just
plain old Chef!! We are seriously hoping that this is a mistake on the part of DIMA's
web designers. My partners being a Head Chef is probably the key part of our
application and to suddenly discover that she has been assessed wrongly at this stage
is of great concern to us. Especially as her TRA assessment only states Chef 3322-11.
Can anyone please confirm that this is indeed a mistake?
 
Old May 22nd 2002, 4:20 am
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Lana
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Noiseboy,

I checked my booklet (Independent Skilled Migration 6) and it says that Head Chef is
3322-01, and Chef is 3322-11. I am sorry.

What is the assessing authority? Can you appeal? I mean, it really sucks, but if you
need the 5 points, it's better to appeal the assessment now than to have paid all the
money and get a negative on the visa.

I hope it all gets worked out fast.

Lana

Noiseboy <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > My partner has recently had her trade assessed by TRA as a Chef ASCO code 3322-11.
    > This is precisely what it says on the TRA assessment. All of the definitions we
    > have seen of this code are Chef - Head Chef. This IS exactly what my partner is and
    > has been for several years. We were just trying to confirm that my partners' trade
    > is still currently on the MODL list. Worried about five points and the implications
    > of dropping from the list I suppose. We are on the verge of submitting our
    > application. Whilst looking for the current MODL list on DIMA's website I came
    > across the current Skilled Occupations List
    >
    > http://www.immi.gov.au/allforms/sol3.htm
    >
    > To our horror it lists Chef - Head Chef as ASCO code 3322-01 and 3322-11 is just
    > plain old Chef!! We are seriously hoping that this is a mistake on the part of
    > DIMA's web designers. My partners being a Head Chef is probably the key part of our
    > application and to suddenly discover that she has been assessed wrongly at this
    > stage is of great concern to us. Especially as her TRA assessment only states Chef
    > 3322-11. Can anyone please confirm that this is indeed a mistake?
 
Old May 23rd 2002, 12:20 pm
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Noiseboy
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In article <[email protected] >, [email protected]
(Lana) wrote:

    > I checked my booklet (Independent Skilled Migration 6) and it says that Head Chef
    > is 3322-01, and Chef is 3322-11. I am sorry.
    >
    > What is the assessing authority? Can you appeal? I mean, it really sucks, but if
    > you need the 5 points, it's better to appeal the assessment now than to have paid
    > all the money and get a negative on the visa.
    >
    > I hope it all gets worked out fast.

Well we paid our fee and downloaded the General Skilled Migration Booklet last year.
The Associate Professionals list on page 52 states quite categorically that Chef -
Head Chef is 3322-11. Furthermore, I downloaded Skilled Occupations List form 1121i
(design date 03/02) and this also has Chef - Head Chef as 3322-11. The DIMA webpage
that caused our confusion in the first place (dated 17.5.02):

http://www.immi.gov.au/allforms/sol3.htm

States at the bottom of the occupations list:

"ASCO code references are those contained in McLennan, W, ASCO - Australian
Standard Classification of Occupations, Second Edition, Australian Bureau of
Statistics, 1997"

So those codes have theoretically remained unchanged since 1997. Most definitely an
error has occured somewhere along the line if we both have a recent DIMA publication
and contradictory information is available on DIMA's own website that claims
opposite codes for Chef & Head Chef. We are beginning to get stressed about this. We
have, as I'm sure everyone else does, spent a great deal of time and effort on our
applications to the point of being anal! The assessing authority was TRA. All we
want to be sure of is that my partner *has* been assessed as a Head Chef and, as the
TRA assessment is inconclusive about this - just quoting "Chef" and the ASCO code -
we have only DIMA publications to go by. We are aware that it makes no difference to
the points she can claim for her trade, either chef with ASCO code beginning 3322
gets 60 points plus the additional ones for being on the current MODL list. TRA's
own website:

http://www.workplace.gov.au/Workplac...53D3589%2526a0
%253D0%2526a1%253D517%2526a2%253D529,00.html

is unhelpful on this issue as it only lists the trades that it assesses, referring to
the DIMA site for the relevant ASCO codes.
 
Old May 23rd 2002, 2:20 pm
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Noiseboy
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In article <[email protected] >, [email protected]
(Lana) wrote:

    > I checked my booklet (Independent Skilled Migration 6) and it says that Head Chef
    > is 3322-01, and Chef is 3322-11. I am sorry.
    >
    > What is the assessing authority? Can you appeal? I mean, it really sucks, but if
    > you need the 5 points, it's better to appeal the assessment now than to have paid
    > all the money and get a negative on the visa.
    >
    > I hope it all gets worked out fast.

Well we paid our fee and downloaded the General Skilled Migration Booklet last year.
The Associate Professionals list on page 52 states quite categorically that Chef -
Head Chef is 3322-11. Furthermore, I downloaded Skilled Occupations List form 1121i
(design date 03/02) and this also has Chef - Head Chef as 3322-11. The DIMA webpage
that caused our confusion in the first place (dated 17.5.02):

http://www.immi.gov.au/allforms/sol3.htm

states at the bottom of the occupations list:

"ASCO code references are those contained in McLennan, W, ASCO - Australian
Standard Classification of Occupations, Second Edition, Australian Bureau of
Statistics, 1997"

So those codes have theoretically remained unchanged since 1997. Most definitely an
error has occured somewhere along the line if we both have a recent DIMA publication
- and contradictory information is available on DIMA's own website - that claims
opposite codes for Chef & Head Chef. We are beginning to get stressed about this. We
have, as I'm sure everyone else does, spent a great deal of time and effort on our
applications to the point of being anal! The assessing authority was TRA. All we
want to be sure of is that my partner *has* been assessed as a Head Chef and, as the
TRA assessment is inconclusive about this - just quoting "Chef" and the ASCO code -
we have only DIMA publications to go by. We are aware that it makes no difference to
the points she can claim for her trade, either chef with ASCO code beginning 3322
gets 60 points plus the additional ones for being on the current MODL list. TRA's
own website:

http://www.workplace.gov.au/Workplac...53D3589%2526a0
%253D0%2526a1%253D517%2526a2%253D529,00.html

is unhelpful on this issue as it only lists the trades that it assesses, referring to
the DIMA site for the relevant ASCO codes.
 
Old May 23rd 2002, 3:20 pm
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In article <[email protected]le.com >, [email protected]
(Lana) wrote:

    > I checked my booklet (Independent Skilled Migration 6) and it says that Head Chef
    > is 3322-01, and Chef is 3322-11. I am sorry.
    >
    > What is the assessing authority? Can you appeal? I mean, it really sucks, but if
    > you need the 5 points, it's better to appeal the assessment now than to have paid
    > all the money and get a negative on the visa.
    >
    > I hope it all gets worked out fast.

Well we paid our fee and downloaded the General Skilled Migration Booklet last year.
The Associate Professionals list on page 52 states quite categorically that Chef -
Head Chef is 3322-11. Furthermore, I downloaded Skilled Occupations List form 1121i
(design date 03/02) and this also has Chef - Head Chef as 3322-11. The DIMA webpage
that caused our confusion in the first place (dated 17.5.02):

http://www.immi.gov.au/allforms/sol3.htm

states at the bottom of the skilled occupations list:

"ASCO code references are those contained in McLennan, W, ASCO - Australian
Standard Classification of Occupations, Second Edition, Australian Bureau of
Statistics, 1997"

So those codes have evidently remained unchanged since 1997. Most definitely an error
has occured somewhere along the line if we both have a recent DIMA publication - and
contradictory information is available on DIMA's own website - that claims opposite
codes for Chef & Head Chef. We are beginning to get stressed about this. We have, as
I'm sure everyone else does, spent a great deal of time and effort on our
applications to the point of being anal! The assessing authority was TRA. All we want
to be sure of is that my partner *has* been assessed as a Head Chef and, as the TRA
assessment is surprisingly inconclusive about this - just quoting "Chef" and the ASCO
code - we have only DIMA publications to go by. We are aware that it makes no
difference to the points she can claim for her trade, either chef with ASCO code
beginning 3322 gets 60 points plus the additional ones for being on the current MODL
list. TRA's own website:

http://www.workplace.gov.au/Workplac...53D3589%2526a0
%253D0%2526a1%253D517%2526a2%253D529,00.html

is unhelpful on this issue as it only lists the trades that it assesses, referring to
the DIMA site for the relevant ASCO codes.
 
Old May 23rd 2002, 3:20 pm
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Noiseboy
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n article <[email protected] >, [email protected]
(Lana) wrote:

    > I checked my booklet (Independent Skilled Migration 6) and it says that Head Chef
    > is 3322-01, and Chef is 3322-11. I am sorry.
    >
    > What is the assessing authority? Can you appeal? I mean, it really sucks, but if
    > you need the 5 points, it's better to appeal the assessment now than to have paid
    > all the money and get a negative on the visa.
    >
    > I hope it all gets worked out fast.

Well we paid our fee and downloaded the General Skilled Migration Booklet last year.
The Associate Professionals list on page 52 states quite categorically that Chef -
Head Chef is 3322-11. Furthermore, I downloaded Skilled Occupations List form 1121i
(design date 03/02) and this also has Chef - Head Chef as 3322-11. The DIMA webpage
that caused our confusion in the first place (dated 17.5.02):

http://www.immi.gov.au/allforms/sol3.htm

states at the bottom of the skilled occupations list:

"ASCO code references are those contained in McLennan, W, ASCO - Australian
Standard Classification of Occupations, Second Edition, Australian Bureau of
Statistics, 1997"

So those codes have evidently remained unchanged since 1997. Most definitely an error
has occured somewhere along the line if we both have a recent DIMA publication - and
contradictory information is available on DIMA's own website - that claims opposite
codes for Chef & Head Chef. We are beginning to get stressed about this. We have, as
I'm sure everyone else does, spent a great deal of time and effort on our
applications to the point of being anal! The assessing authority was TRA. All we want
to be sure of is that my partner *has* been assessed as a Head Chef and, as the TRA
assessment is surprisingly inconclusive about this - just quoting "Chef" and the ASCO
code - we have only DIMA publications to go by. We are aware that it makes no
difference to the points she can claim for her trade, either chef with ASCO code
beginning 3322 gets 60 points plus the additional ones for being on the current MODL
list. TRA's own website:

http://www.workplace.gov.au/Workplac...53D3589%2526a0
%253D0%2526a1%253D517%2526a2%253D529,00.html

is unhelpful on this issue as it only lists the trades that it assesses, referring to
the DIMA site for the relevant ASCO codes.
 
Old May 23rd 2002, 8:20 pm
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Lana
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Noiseboy,

This is really horrible, cause my booklet is like the DIMA site, and the info you
downloaded from the DIMA site is different. It seems like the DIMA wants to confuse
us on purpose.

I can sympathize with your MODL problem. We are in a similar situation, cause they
use subcategories of ASCO codes for IT professionals, and now they are using a
subcategory of a subcategory! My husband is a Java professional, and now Java is on
the MODL like this: "Java (security and electronic commerce)". The problem is, the
ACS only assesses someone as a Java professional, they don't state the uses of the
technology. We don't know who to ask about this. It looks like our only resource is
to pay a lot to call the AHC...

Can you call the AHC? Cause I hear they don't really answer e-mails.

Good luck, and tell me when you find out.

Lana

Noiseboy <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
    > Well we paid our fee and downloaded the General Skilled Migration Booklet last
    > year. The Associate Professionals list on page 52 states quite categorically that
    > Chef - Head Chef is 3322-11. Furthermore, I downloaded Skilled Occupations List
    > form 1121i (design date 03/02) and this also has Chef - Head Chef as 3322-11. The
    > DIMA webpage that caused our confusion in the first place (dated 17.5.02):
    >
    > http://www.immi.gov.au/allforms/sol3.htm
    >
    > States at the bottom of the occupations list:
    >
    > "ASCO code references are those contained in McLennan, W, ASCO - Australian
    > Standard Classification of Occupations, Second Edition, Australian Bureau of
    > Statistics, 1997"
    >
    > So those codes have theoretically remained unchanged since 1997. Most definitely an
    > error has occured somewhere along the line if we both have a recent DIMA
    > publication and contradictory information is available on DIMA's own website that
    > claims opposite codes for Chef & Head Chef. We are beginning to get stressed about
    > this. We have, as I'm sure everyone else does, spent a great deal of time and
    > effort on our applications to the point of being anal! The assessing authority was
    > TRA. All we want to be sure of is that my partner *has* been assessed as a Head
    > Chef and, as the TRA assessment is inconclusive about this - just quoting "Chef"
    > and the ASCO code - we have only DIMA publications to go by. We are aware that it
    > makes no difference to the points she can claim for her trade, either chef with
    > ASCO code beginning 3322 gets 60 points plus the additional ones for being on the
    > current MODL list. TRA's own website:
    >
    > http://www.workplace.gov.au/Workplac...53D3589%2526a0
    > %253D0%2526a1%253D517%2526a2%253D529,00.html
    >
    > is unhelpful on this issue as it only lists the trades that it assesses, referring
    > to the DIMA site for the relevant ASCO codes.
 

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