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Old Jun 24th 2007, 8:48 am
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Hi folks! Can you please help me out on some of my questions. Sorry if some questions does not belong in this section.

1. If a nurse(non-EU citizen) is offered a job by a hospital in Australia and start working immediately, will he/she get automatically a PR status?

2. If he/she gets immediately a PR status, when can he/she apply for the Australian citizenship?

3. If this person gets the Australian citizenship and after some time, say 3 years, got itchy feet and want to work in UK, will it be easier to go through the process of emigrating, living and working in the UK since this person has become an Australian national?

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Old Jun 24th 2007, 10:01 am
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Hi folks! Can you please help me out on some of my questions. Sorry if some questions does not belong in this section.

1. If a nurse(non-EU citizen) is offered a job by a hospital in Australia and start working immediately, will he/she get automatically a PR status?

2. If he/she gets immediately a PR status, when can he/she apply for the Australian citizenship?

3. If this person gets the Australian citizenship and after some time, say 3 years, got itchy feet and want to work in UK, will it be easier to go through the process of emigrating, living and working in the UK since this person has become an Australian national?

thanks ever so much in anticipation for all your info.

1 - It's not guaranteed, depends what visa they are willing to sponsor you for.

2 - PR visa holders can apply for citizenship once they are eligible, currently it's a two year wait but is increasing to 4 years soon.

3 - No, it's not easier for an Australian to go to the UK than it is for anyone else. Unless they have British Parents or Grandparents, then it is a bit easier.
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Hi Webdevboy,

1. If a nurse(non-EU citizen) is offered a job by a hospital in Australia and start working immediately, will he/she get automatically a PR status?
It depends whether she is company-sponsored, and if so, whether they are offering her sponsored PR or a temp (457) visa.

2. If he/she gets immediately a PR status, when can he/she apply for the Australian citizenship?
The Citizenship legislation is about to change and the new Citizenship Act 2007 will most likely apply to you. Residency requirements for the new Act are as follows:
four (4) years lawful residence in Australia immediately prior to making an application for Australian citizenship with at least 12 months as a permanent resident, and

absences from Australia of no more than 12 months in total in the four (4) years prior to application, and no more than three (3) months in the 12 month permanent residency period prior to application.

Check http://www.citizenship.gov.au/law-an...irementsQA.htm for details.


3. If this person gets the Australian citizenship and after some time, say 3 years, got itchy feet and want to work in UK, will it be easier to go through the process of emigrating, living and working in the UK since this person has become an Australian national?
I don't know what nationality you are now so it is difficult to say whether this would be more straighforward as an Australian citizen but I think it's unlikely. My experience is in moving the other way!

Emma

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Can only speak for question 3 as I am involved with immigration into the EU - in the future (next 2-3 years) immigration into any EU member state is going to become very difficult and individual countries will have little jurisdiction on immigration into the EU.

There will be a common immigration policy into the EU possibly (but not very likely) with additional points for individuals who have family in an EU member state. The thing to remember about immigrating into an EU member state is that it generally entitles an individual to live/work anywhere in the EU. So with a common policy the policies are becoming stricter to prevent people entering into one of the poorer EU states and then moving straight away to one of the more prosperous EU states. So being an Oz citizen will offer no benefits as within the EU Australians, South Africans and New Zealanders have one of the worse track records for overstaying their visas - bit similar to the Irish and British in Oz !!!!!!
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Can only speak for question 3 as I am involved with immigration into the EU - in the future (next 2-3 years) immigration into any EU member state is going to become very difficult and individual countries will have little jurisdiction on immigration into the EU.
And the source for this information is ..... ??

The thing to remember about immigrating into an EU member state is that it generally entitles an individual to live/work anywhere in the EU.
No it does not. At least not until the person acquires citizenship which usually takes a long time.

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And the source for this information is ..... ??

I am currently working on a number of projects for the Irish Immigration and Naturalisation Service in conjuction with the EU Commission - the info is based on knowledge of the current legislation and policy/legislation from the EU Commission that is in the pipeline to support the deployment of the EU wide Schengen 2 border control system and the VIS system
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I am currently working on a number of projects for the Irish Immigration and Naturalisation Service in conjuction with the EU Commission - the info is based on knowledge of the current legislation and policy/legislation from the EU Commission that is in the pipeline to support the deployment of the EU wide Schengen 2 border control system and the VIS system
Britain is not a part of Schengen.
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Britain is not a part of Schengen.
At the moment that is correct but both the UK and Ireland will be entering into Schengen around 2009 possibly earlier if both countries decide to join the Schengen 1 Plus solution which the EU Commision is pushing at the moment. Neither the UK or Ireland will be entering into the full Schengen as both countries have a derogation from certain articles as if both the UK and Ireland signed up to the full Schengen Equis it would mean having to put border controls in between the Irish Republic and Northern Ireland as well as border controls between the Irish Republic and England, Scotland and Wales and obviously vice versa - The UK and Ireland have what is termed a CTA (Common Travel Area) and is recognised (for historical reasons) as a special case within the EU. The UK will be part a limited part of VIS though Ireland will not be, but both countries will be implementing the EU policies on immigration using their own national systems.
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Thank you all very much for all your inputs.
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