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Old Nov 24th 2013, 6:30 am
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Hi I am trying to immigrate to Australia. My VETASSESS results came back with a negative outcome saying I do not qualify for the Hotel , Motel Manager 141311.

I have a Degree in International Hospitality Management from UK, and a Swiss Higher Diploma in Hotel and Restaurant Management, which required a year management trainee internship. I also did part time work in Switzerland alongside studies.

Right now I am working in Reservations in a hotel for almost 3 years now, in a supervisory role.

Can anyone guide me please on how to get this VETASSESS right? I been working in hospitality for almost 7 years now, including my studies, and I cannot seem to understand why I am not worthy of immigrating to Australia under the Hotel, Motel Manager 141311, skilled occupation.

What more I need to do? I have the skills, language, plus a high level education decreed by Her Majesty!

Please if anyone with a hotel degree who has managed to reach Australia, and let me know how to do it as well. I need a place to settle down and start a better life.

Even if there are similar occupation level people who managed to the reach land of down under, please pitch in!
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..I cannot seem to understand why I am not worthy of immigrating to Australia under the Hotel, Motel Manager 141311, skilled occupation.
Possibly because a Reservations Supervisor is not a hotel manager?
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Yes, thank you Nicky, I get that, but I oversee reservations and direct them, so it is part of the job description as per ANSZCO standards. No one gets to be a general manager or hotel manager after they graduate, they have to work and gain experience, but if you have the education that tailors to be a hotel manager with proper education, I believe it should qualify, as already we are knowledgeable of the job and experienced vocationally in each department, we developed a solid know how.
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Yes, thank you Nicky, I get that, but I oversee reservations and direct them, so it is part of the job description as per ANSZCO standards. No one gets to be a general manager or hotel manager after they graduate, they have to work and gain experience, but if you have the education that tailors to be a hotel manager with proper education, I believe it should qualify, as already we are knowledgeable of the job and experienced vocationally in each department, we developed a solid know how.
You need to be able to satisfy all of the ANZSCO criteria, so maybe once you have reached the level of manager for sometime you could try again

It doesn't matter if you believe the education is enough - most skills assessments require work experience at a skilled level
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Don't panic... there is always a way if you stick it through. Go through the reasons why it got rejected the first time and make your re-application according to what they ask.
There is a large majority of people who tailor their job description according to respective ANZSCO description ( who knows what happens behind the curtains).
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Don't panic... there is always a way if you stick it through. Go through the reasons why it got rejected the first time and make your re-application according to what they ask.
There is a large majority of people who tailor their job description according to respective ANZSCO description ( who knows what happens behind the curtains).
That's not good advice. In fact, it sounds like you're advocating that the original poster lies.
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In vast reality of cases, that's what happens...it's called learning the tricks of the trade
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In vast reality of cases, that's what happens...it's called learning the tricks of the trade
No, it's called fraud. DIBP aren't stupid - but people who lie and cheat are.
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Blimey, this website is a real eye opener
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Blimey, this website is a real eye opener
You got that right
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First of all, I never wrote to lie or cheat as you are inferring.

Secondly, DIPB has nothing to do with assessing the skills assessment-VETASSESS does and it is them you have to convince that your job description closely lies with the ANZSCO description and for this you have to read between the lines and address it in the application.
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First of all, I never wrote to lie or cheat as you are inferring.

Secondly, DIPB has nothing to do with assessing the skills assessment-VETASSESS does and it is them you have to convince that your job description closely lies with the ANZSCO description and for this you have to read between the lines and address it in the application.
But theirs isn't?! OP is a supervisor, not a manager and there's no way around that?!!
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First of all, I never wrote to lie or cheat as you are inferring.

Secondly, DIPB has nothing to do with assessing the skills assessment-VETASSESS does and it is them you have to convince that your job description closely lies with the ANZSCO description and for this you have to read between the lines and address it in the application.
What you said was to have a look the reasons he was rejected, and then write up his application again including those things. If he had the required skills and experience, he'd have included those in his first application!

Anyway, I notice you've just joined and these are your first posts - knock yourself out.
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In vast reality of cases, that's what happens...it's called learning the tricks of the trade
Originally Posted by RCane
First of all, I never wrote to lie or cheat as you are inferring.

Secondly, DIPB has nothing to do with assessing the skills assessment-VETASSESS does and it is them you have to convince that your job description closely lies with the ANZSCO description and for this you have to read between the lines and address it in the application.
Actually, you do appear to be encouraging the OP to lie. That is how your post comes across. Lying to gain the skills assessment is fraud. As is using a skills assessment gained under false pretences to obtain a visa. So DIBP would be interested in that. So much so that anyone caught obtaining their visas fraudulently are likely to be subject to a three year ban under the fraud PIC.
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A general reminder to anyone reading this thread. Please do not encourage people to be dishonest in any aspect of their applications. BE does not condone or tolerate the encouragement of fraud.
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