Jaj

    >On Fri, 23 May 2003 07:53:35 +0000, ptlabs wrote:
    >Originally posted by abhibhanu
    >> I am not sure, if you can withdraw it now or not?
    >>
    >Withdrawal of applications will not normally result in a refund of
    >application fees.
    >And there's no real point in withdrawing an application that was refused
    >based on insufficient English language proficiency. The applicant may
    >simply apply again once he/she has reached the required minimum
    >standards for skilled migration.

Provided that he still meets the pass mark and the basic requirements.
For example. if he has passed an age threshold and been affected by an
MODL change, this may no longer be the case.

Jeremy
This is not intended to be legal advice in any jurisdiction

Ashwin Patel

I have got overall 6.0 band in Ielts exam.but i got 4.5 band in one
section of reading.

i have lodged my PR file in last feb,2002 under general skilled
independent category & my Asco code is 2211.11(Accountants).by
profession i am practising chartered accountant from india having 4
yrs experience.

ASPC demand for degree verification by university.i also satisfied all
the requirements.also i have sent Ielts original test report,degree
assessment report and these university verification certificate.

till date i have not get the medical letter.one of my friend who had
appiled under the same category with same qualification in last
december,2001 have got the medical in december,2002 and finally got
the visa in feb,2002.

i am really surprised why they delayed my case?

proper advice would be appreciated.

ashwin patel
india

jude

Ashwin,
Maybe your friend got a better IELTS score, though I am not too sure. This may be a general question to all: Can you not sit the IELTS exams and see what scores you get and then forward them to DIMIA, rather than ask them to directly send it before you even know your scores?
I am sure once you know your scores you can send over the IELTS scores via your examining body. Am I right?
J

ptlabs

Hmmm... Have you read the Skilled Migration Booklet 6, or Form 966i?

With a 4.5 score for one component in IELTS, you automatically do not meet the English language requirements for skilled migration.

Your application would most likely be refused, it's not just a delay you're looking at.


Peter

abhibhanu

Ashwin
It is sad but what peter said id correct. Even you get 7 or 8 overall score and if you get 4.5 in one section, you ultimately do not meet the requirement of English language. The migration booklet says this part very clearly. You should have taken IELTS beforehand if you are not confident of your English then should have applied as IELTS results will not take long time to come. Anyway good luck. I am not sure, if you can withdraw it now or not?
love
bhanu

Peter Tomo

Given such a big amount of time (1y 3mths) I think the post service didn't deliver DIMIA's refusal or other written communication.

That's the bad thing about DIMIA policy - they send all by regular mail instead of registered one. One would guess AUD 1745+ could pay for more... BTW, does DIMIA/ASPC send their letters in prepaid courier/registered envelopes, if those are supplied by applicant?

Peter

ptlabs

Withdrawal of applications will not normally result in a refund of application fees.

And there's no real point in withdrawing an application that was refused based on insufficient English language proficiency. The applicant may simply apply again once he/she has reached the required minimum standards for skilled migration.

Alternatively, the original poster may try his luck by sitting for a new IELTS test and then sending the new results to ASPC, supposing his new scores would meet the minumum standards.

Next time, it's best to read the skilled migration booklet carefully. Migration matters are not something to joke about.


Peter

Jerry Hooper

It is indeed amazing at how so many feel they are saving money by not hiring
a migration agent. I have just got one of my clients a 136. She sat for
the IELTS test 3 times before getting 5 + across the board. The application
took 8 months from start to finish.

Maybe they should have points for ability to read forms and follow
instructions.

Jerry




"ptlabs" wrote in message
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    > Originally posted by abhibhanu
    > > I am not sure, if you can withdraw it now or not?
    > >
    > Withdrawal of applications will not normally result in a refund of
    > application fees.
    > And there's no real point in withdrawing an application that was refused
    > based on insufficient English language proficiency. The applicant may
    > simply apply again once he/she has reached the required minimum
    > standards for skilled migration.
    > Alternatively, the original poster may try his luck by sitting for a new
    > IELTS test and then sending the new results to ASPC, supposing his new
    > scores would meet the minumum standards.
    > Next time, it's best to read the skilled migration booklet carefully.
    > Migration matters are not something to joke about.
    > Peter
    > --
    > Posted via http://britishexpats.com

ptlabs

Jerry,

A "skilled" applicant should not be claiming points for following instructions and reading forms.

On the contrary, inability to read forms and understand what the minimum requirements are should result in penalty points. In reality, this is often not necessary, as these ignorant applicants end up having their applications tossed out.


Peter

Maiquel Llacson

On Fri, 23 May 2003 15:13:24 +0000, ptlabs wrote:
    > On the contrary, inability to read forms and understand what the minimum
    > requirements are should result in penalty points. In reality, this is
    > often not necessary, as these ignorant applicants end up having their
    > applications tossed out.

After all, the applicant got a 4.5 score in the reading part of the
IELTS. So I guess everything makes sense :-)

Michael Hoffman

ptlabs wrote in
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    > A "skilled" applicant should not be claiming points for following
    > instructions and reading forms.
    >
    > On the contrary, inability to read forms and understand what the minimum
    > requirements are should result in penalty points. In reality, this is
    > often not necessary, as these ignorant applicants end up having their
    > applications tossed out.

Especially with regards to the subfusion of all societies by bureaucratic
procedures that have us drowning in forms, there should be a category of
"ability to survive in the 21st century".

With 0 points for getting the forms right and -50 for not.

Mike (who managed to screw up his own ACS forms, but at least only through
a brief attack of Alzheimers and not by lack of reading the instructions
    :-)

Jerry Hooper

True Peter, it was said with my tongue firmly in my cheek ..


"ptlabs" wrote in message
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    > Originally posted by Jerry Hooper
    > > Maybe they should have points for ability to read forms and follow
    > > instructions.
    > >
    > Jerry,
    > A "skilled" applicant should not be claiming points for following
    > instructions and reading forms.
    > On the contrary, inability to read forms and understand what the minimum
    > requirements are should result in penalty points. In reality, this is
    > often not necessary, as these ignorant applicants end up having their
    > applications tossed out.
    > Peter
    > --
    > Posted via http://britishexpats.com

shivu

Hi Ashwin,

The skilled Migration Booklet clearly says u need to haveminimum band of 5 inm each IELTS i.e reading, writting, speaking and listening.

Still u can attempt one more exam and send a copy to DIMIA.

Good Luck

shivu

Michael Hoffman

Michael Hoffman wrote in
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    > Especially with regards to the subfusion of all societies by

Suffusion! Hate it when I forget to spellcheck.

Mike

Ashwin Patel

abhibhanu wrote in message news:...
    > Ashwin
    > It is sad but what peter said id correct. Even you get 7 or 8 overall
    > score and if you get 4.5 in one section, you ultimately do not meet the
    > requirement of English language. The migration booklet says this part
    > very clearly. You should have taken IELTS beforehand if you are not
    > confident of your English then should have applied as IELTS results will
    > not take long time to come. Anyway good luck. I am not sure, if you can
    > withdraw it now or not?
    > love
    > bhanu

thanks for advice mr.bhanu.but bhanu,i have received a file accepted
letter from DIMIA in april,2002 by alloting my file no.

does it mean that i have satisfied all the basic requirements and my
file is in queue?

Or shall i have to appear again for IELTS? i have send them all my
english medium certificates alongwith IELTS score.i have completed my
graduation in english medium also i have completed my c.a.in english
medium.

pls reply me on:[email protected]

regards
ashwin