Help with Scottish police checks.
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Help with Scottish police checks.
Hi there, I am looking for some advice regarding my police checks. I am in Scotland and have recieved my certificates , however I am worried that they may not be National checks. My checks have come from the Scottish Criminal Record Office Computer. Is this a National check ?
Your thoughts on this matter would help me greatly.
Your thoughts on this matter would help me greatly.
#2
Re: Help with Scottish police checks.
Hi
no they are not the new Scotland yard one's you will get them shortly after you got the Scottish one,s
Billy
no they are not the new Scotland yard one's you will get them shortly after you got the Scottish one,s
Billy
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Re: Help with Scottish police checks.
Hi There,
You are looking for both PNC (Police National Computer,which covers the whole of the UK,) and SCRO (Scottish Criminal Records Office,) which just covers Scotland.
You will need both of these.
Sounds like you have your SCRO check back, but whether you recieve a PNC check result from London depends on whether ou requested it. They will not send you one unless you requested it (data protection etc.)
Where in Scotland do you live? I am a cop from Lothian & Borders Police which covers Edinburgh. I know with the L&B request form you have a PNC box which you have to tick, and an SCRO box which you have to tick (assuming you want them.) The PNC checks usually take a little longer to recieve than the SCRO, as these ones (SCRO,) are done by the force where you submitted the application (PNC checks go down to London.) I think PNC checks can take up to three months or so to get a reply.
If i can do anything else to help just let me know.
You are looking for both PNC (Police National Computer,which covers the whole of the UK,) and SCRO (Scottish Criminal Records Office,) which just covers Scotland.
You will need both of these.
Sounds like you have your SCRO check back, but whether you recieve a PNC check result from London depends on whether ou requested it. They will not send you one unless you requested it (data protection etc.)
Where in Scotland do you live? I am a cop from Lothian & Borders Police which covers Edinburgh. I know with the L&B request form you have a PNC box which you have to tick, and an SCRO box which you have to tick (assuming you want them.) The PNC checks usually take a little longer to recieve than the SCRO, as these ones (SCRO,) are done by the force where you submitted the application (PNC checks go down to London.) I think PNC checks can take up to three months or so to get a reply.
If i can do anything else to help just let me know.
#4
Re: Help with Scottish police checks.
Originally Posted by R.Soper
Hi There,
I think PNC checks can take up to three months or so to get a reply.
I think PNC checks can take up to three months or so to get a reply.
I did request both the scottish and "national" check
I put the forms into the local station on 16th May - no reply as yet but it's early days
AL
#5
Re: Help with Scottish police checks.
Originally Posted by Aldebaran
I'm sure the form you use to request the check states on it that you will get a reply within 40 days. I would hope that timescale applies to all checks.
I did request both the scottish and "national" check
I put the forms into the local station on 16th May - no reply as yet but it's early days
AL
I did request both the scottish and "national" check
I put the forms into the local station on 16th May - no reply as yet but it's early days
AL
Yes all requests for anything with regards to data held about you from anywhere have to be back in no more than 40 days by law and the most anyone can charge you for it is £10
#6
Re: Help with Scottish police checks.
Originally Posted by lang81
Hi there, I am looking for some advice regarding my police checks. I am in Scotland and have recieved my certificates , however I am worried that they may not be National checks. My checks have come from the Scottish Criminal Record Office Computer. Is this a National check ?
Your thoughts on this matter would help me greatly.
Your thoughts on this matter would help me greatly.
Clairex
#7
Re: Help with Scottish police checks.
Originally Posted by belleandscone
the DIMIA only asked for Scottish ones as we have only ever lived in Scotland
Clairex
Clairex
"police clearance certificate from every country that the the applicants have lived in......"
I have only ever lived in Scotland but I requested both Scottish and "National" because others on the forum has recommended it.
I'm not sure if the National one would have information that the Scottish one doesn't
I think it's safer to get both - better to have more information than not enough
AL
#8
Re: Help with Scottish police checks.
Hi
We submitted the new Scotland yard PCCs with our application last June and it was accepted we were told by agent not to bother sending the Scottish ones and to keep a hold off them
Because of a hiccup with employment reference we are having to submit our police checks again i applied for them on 25th may and i got my Scottish police checks today but again my agent has said just to hold on to them but when the new Scotland yard ones come in to send them to her
Billy & Vicki
We submitted the new Scotland yard PCCs with our application last June and it was accepted we were told by agent not to bother sending the Scottish ones and to keep a hold off them
Because of a hiccup with employment reference we are having to submit our police checks again i applied for them on 25th may and i got my Scottish police checks today but again my agent has said just to hold on to them but when the new Scotland yard ones come in to send them to her
Billy & Vicki
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Re: Help with Scottish police checks.
You need police checks for every country you have lived in for over twelve months. I guess it is a bit of a grey area with Scotland, because it is its own country so to speak, yet still part of the United Kingdom.
It is the SCRO (Scottish Criminal Records Office) checks which cover Scotland, PNC (Police National Computer,) which cover the United Kingdom in its entirety. You could for example commit an offence on a visit to England, which would be recorded on PNC, but not SCRO.
I can't speak for other Scottish forces, but if you apply for the checks through Lothian & Borders Police, you get the results seperately. The SCRO check is conducted and posted to you locally from Edinburgh, so you get this quite quickly. The PNC check requests are sent to London, and completed down there. The results are sent to you from London as soon as they are completed. Therfore, if you go ahead and request both checks, waiting for the result of the PNC check will not delay the result of the SCRO check getting to you.
Hope this helps.
It is the SCRO (Scottish Criminal Records Office) checks which cover Scotland, PNC (Police National Computer,) which cover the United Kingdom in its entirety. You could for example commit an offence on a visit to England, which would be recorded on PNC, but not SCRO.
I can't speak for other Scottish forces, but if you apply for the checks through Lothian & Borders Police, you get the results seperately. The SCRO check is conducted and posted to you locally from Edinburgh, so you get this quite quickly. The PNC check requests are sent to London, and completed down there. The results are sent to you from London as soon as they are completed. Therfore, if you go ahead and request both checks, waiting for the result of the PNC check will not delay the result of the SCRO check getting to you.
Hope this helps.
#10
Re: Help with Scottish police checks.
Originally Posted by Aldebaran
I'm sure the form you use to request the check states on it that you will get a reply within 40 days. I would hope that timescale applies to all checks.
I did request both the scottish and "national" check
I put the forms into the local station on 16th May - no reply as yet but it's early days
AL
I did request both the scottish and "national" check
I put the forms into the local station on 16th May - no reply as yet but it's early days
AL
John
#11
Re: Help with Scottish police checks.
Hi John
was it the scottish police check you got back or the national one's
Cheers
Billy
was it the scottish police check you got back or the national one's
Cheers
Billy
#12
Re: Help with Scottish police checks.
Originally Posted by billy0911
Hi John
was it the scottish police check you got back or the national one's
Cheers
Billy
was it the scottish police check you got back or the national one's
Cheers
Billy
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Re: Help with Scottish police checks.
Originally Posted by Aldebaran
I put the forms into the local station on 16th May - no reply as yet but it's early days
#14
Re: Help with Scottish police checks.
Hi
i got my Scottish police check back yesterday and it states i have a asthma and a asthma pendant i have never had asthma i have phoned the local police dept and they have said i can write to them and they will then take that bit off info off
now my query is do the new Scotland yard have health info on as if it on the Scottish one will it be on the n.s.y. checks ????
Billy & Vicki
i got my Scottish police check back yesterday and it states i have a asthma and a asthma pendant i have never had asthma i have phoned the local police dept and they have said i can write to them and they will then take that bit off info off
now my query is do the new Scotland yard have health info on as if it on the Scottish one will it be on the n.s.y. checks ????
Billy & Vicki
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Re: Help with Scottish police checks.
Originally Posted by billy0911
Hi
i got my Scottish police check back yesterday and it states i have a asthma and a asthma pendant i have never had asthma i have phoned the local police dept and they have said i can write to them and they will then take that bit off info off
now my query is do the new Scotland yard have health info on as if it on the Scottish one will it be on the n.s.y. checks ????
Billy & Vicki
i got my Scottish police check back yesterday and it states i have a asthma and a asthma pendant i have never had asthma i have phoned the local police dept and they have said i can write to them and they will then take that bit off info off
now my query is do the new Scotland yard have health info on as if it on the Scottish one will it be on the n.s.y. checks ????
Billy & Vicki
NSY would only have that info on file if you have a record, and even then if should not be released as part of the record check.