Help with my age (50) am I too old!!! and visa application
Mar 13th 2014, 6:57 pm
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Re: Help with my age (50) am I too old!!! and visa application
Thanks for all the replies, I will try to answer a few in one go lol.
Re over 45: being over 45 and in my case (50) isn't a death sentence, my wife and I having just returned from WA (Feb) both like the lifestyle, being able to go out at nights, paddle board, swim, kayak, walk, exercise BBQ and not be concerned about making plans and having to cancel them, due to weather appeals to us both. For a period within the Uk I was working 80hrs plus per week, (I just work normal contracted hours now) so putting in additional hours wouldn't have been a problem, I contemplated (FIFO) working as a Paramedic on a remote mine site, this wouldn't phase me!!! if it achieved my ambition, so working rural would have been ok. (as well as normal paramedic skills, I possess skills in advanced airway management, chest decompression, needle cricothyrotomy etc I have extensive experience in dealing with blast injuries and poly/multi systems trauma, I thought that these would have been reasonable skills to bring to rural Australia. Re: Employment, within the Uk is not great and employment for my children is a big concern, although my children are both grown up ( living at home) and employed, there would have been better prospects in Australia, this was another driving force.
Re the 457 yes you can apply at any age and renew it as many times as you like, but as I would like to eventually retire in OZ, PR is what I require, and it would appear that this is not an option. the only exemption that I can apply for is the four year employment with a salary in excess of 130,000 AUD PA, so not an option, Paramedics don't get paid that much. I will check on how a friend achieved PR (shes over 50, and employed as a nurse) she applied a few years ago and achieved this, I will advise on details. However i'm told as legislation changes, it may have changed in the intrim period, so probably will no longer apply.
PS: age discrimination does not apply to immigration :-(
will be in touch, thanks again.
Re over 45: being over 45 and in my case (50) isn't a death sentence, my wife and I having just returned from WA (Feb) both like the lifestyle, being able to go out at nights, paddle board, swim, kayak, walk, exercise BBQ and not be concerned about making plans and having to cancel them, due to weather appeals to us both. For a period within the Uk I was working 80hrs plus per week, (I just work normal contracted hours now) so putting in additional hours wouldn't have been a problem, I contemplated (FIFO) working as a Paramedic on a remote mine site, this wouldn't phase me!!! if it achieved my ambition, so working rural would have been ok. (as well as normal paramedic skills, I possess skills in advanced airway management, chest decompression, needle cricothyrotomy etc I have extensive experience in dealing with blast injuries and poly/multi systems trauma, I thought that these would have been reasonable skills to bring to rural Australia. Re: Employment, within the Uk is not great and employment for my children is a big concern, although my children are both grown up ( living at home) and employed, there would have been better prospects in Australia, this was another driving force.
Re the 457 yes you can apply at any age and renew it as many times as you like, but as I would like to eventually retire in OZ, PR is what I require, and it would appear that this is not an option. the only exemption that I can apply for is the four year employment with a salary in excess of 130,000 AUD PA, so not an option, Paramedics don't get paid that much. I will check on how a friend achieved PR (shes over 50, and employed as a nurse) she applied a few years ago and achieved this, I will advise on details. However i'm told as legislation changes, it may have changed in the intrim period, so probably will no longer apply.
PS: age discrimination does not apply to immigration :-(
will be in touch, thanks again.
Your friend who is a nurse and over 50 and who recently got PR did not get it as a skilled worker or even as employer sponsored. It is not possible, nurses do not pass the income test either. If she got it recently then she got it on the back of a partner or children even.
Your adult children who are working would not be able to come with you either even if you did find a visa, they would have to find their own path. As for job options, Australia is a small country in economic terms, with a growing population, I just don't think that you can assume there are "more opportunities". I would have thought the UK would have heaps more opportunities, fact is I don't think anyone could really say either way.
Mar 13th 2014, 10:47 pm
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Re: Help with my age (50) am I too old!!! and visa application
Over 50 the only ways in would be 457 route as discussed,business innovation stream, investor or partner/ parent I think.
Agree about the not too old - we lodged our RSMS visa 3 days before the main applicants 50 th birthday!
Also agree that your children will not be included as dependants if they are over 18 and working, our sons age 22 and 20 were only included because they had always been students and we had a clear record of financial and other support from us.
If it is the retirement lifestyle you like then you can still buy a house here and spend up to 6 months of the year in Australia as visitors, not the Same I know but I'm not sure how else you would do it.
Agree about the not too old - we lodged our RSMS visa 3 days before the main applicants 50 th birthday!
Also agree that your children will not be included as dependants if they are over 18 and working, our sons age 22 and 20 were only included because they had always been students and we had a clear record of financial and other support from us.
If it is the retirement lifestyle you like then you can still buy a house here and spend up to 6 months of the year in Australia as visitors, not the Same I know but I'm not sure how else you would do it.
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Mar 13th 2014, 11:41 pm
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Re: Help with my age (50) am I too old!!! and visa application
Lots of us do that here, too.
(I just work normal contracted hours now) so putting in additional hours wouldn't have been a problem, I contemplated (FIFO) working as a Paramedic on a remote mine site, this wouldn't phase me!!! if it achieved my ambition, so working rural would have been ok. (as well as normal paramedic skills, I possess skills in advanced airway management, chest decompression, needle cricothyrotomy etc I have extensive experience in dealing with blast injuries and poly/multi systems trauma, I thought that these would have been reasonable skills to bring to rural Australia.
Re the 457 yes you can apply at any age and renew it as many times as you like, but as I would like to eventually retire in OZ, PR is what I require, and it would appear that this is not an option. the only exemption that I can apply for is the four year employment with a salary in excess of 130,000 AUD PA, so not an option, Paramedics don't get paid that much. I will check on how a friend achieved PR (shes over 50, and employed as a nurse) she applied a few years ago and achieved this, I will advise on details. However i'm told as legislation changes, it may have changed in the intrim period, so probably will no longer apply.
I'm not sure what you mean by discrimination. Surely a country has a right to decide at what age to close immigration pathways. Maybe you should have a look at the UK's Home Office website for details of how to migrate to UK as a non-EU skilled migrant.
I really think you need to think about something closer to home that doesn't require a visa if you're looking for somewhere warm to retire. What's wrong with Spain or Portugal? You don't need visas to live there, it's a lot closer to home and your children could come with you if they choose to.
Mar 14th 2014, 2:08 am
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Re: Help with my age (50) am I too old!!! and visa application
. I will check on how a friend achieved PR (shes over 50, and employed as a nurse) she applied a few years ago and achieved this, I will advise on details. However i'm told as legislation changes, it may have changed in the intrim period, so probably will no longer apply.
PS: age discrimination does not apply to immigration :-(
will be in touch, thanks again.
PS: age discrimination does not apply to immigration :-(
will be in touch, thanks again.
However then the rules changed almost overnight making it virtually impossible for a nurse to get PR over 45, mainly due to the new income requirements. I think some that were here on 457s at the time, aged 45 upwards, may have managed to get employer sponsored PR, but the route in for nurses now once they are 45 plus is as good as closed.
Your friend almost certainly came in before the changes, and if you talk to many ex-UK nurses here you will find that is the case. They are probably unaware that the rules have even changed, as once people have migrated they tend not to keep up with the changes unless they are actively involved with a site like this.
Mar 14th 2014, 8:26 am
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Re: Help with my age (50) am I too old!!! and visa application
Sadly, no amount of rationalisation is going to get you through the barriers as you desire. You may want to move permanently but the Aussie government doesn't want you to. Period.
It's just another first world country - with UK on the up and Aus on the way down (sort of catching up with where the rest of the first world has been) there would be no inherent benefit to your kids anyway. Best to probably stop torturing yourself and just plan to enjoy the long holidays you get in UK in Aus if that floats your boat and even do the 6 month visitor thing when you retire.
In the meantime, if where you live is so dire have you thought about moving to a different part of the country?
It's just another first world country - with UK on the up and Aus on the way down (sort of catching up with where the rest of the first world has been) there would be no inherent benefit to your kids anyway. Best to probably stop torturing yourself and just plan to enjoy the long holidays you get in UK in Aus if that floats your boat and even do the 6 month visitor thing when you retire.
In the meantime, if where you live is so dire have you thought about moving to a different part of the country?
Mar 17th 2014, 1:49 pm
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Re: Help with my age (50) am I too old!!! and visa application
So if you had a "special" job - for instance if you were a scientist and head of a large proportion of the national health service in Britain and were mid 50s - is there a route for that kind of thing?
