Has anyone else had this feeling?

Old Sep 21st 2002, 8:59 am
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Hi group!

I've been lurking around the edges of the group for a long time and had a
good few laughs at the posts! Loved the "crack" between the "Baldbutts" ,
could be better than "The Ozbournes"!!

Our situation, decided to apply after 5 years of hesitating. Second burglary
of tools ( self employed chippy) and customer refusing to pay was probably
the final straw so thanks to both parties concerned!! ( BASTARDS!! ) We went
to Emigrate 2002 at Sanddown Park and signed with an agent who has been very
good. ( Apart from when our personal agent went on holiday and never came
back to work , so delaying the application by a month!! )

Skills assessment was sent off and finally came back after only three weeks
, positive! This morning , two days later , the main application form has
dropped on the mat!!

All of a sudden we've gone from telling people that we've applied but until
the skill assessment is done we don't know what's going to happen , to being
involved in the process.

Has anyone else felt , what must be described as second thoughts. Only in as
much as we're realising what a big step it is and friends and family
and........

We're still absolutely 100% for it and can't wait for the big day
but..........come on someone else must have had these feelings to surely!
Must be the shock 'cos all powers of written English have gone and I'm
rambling.....Any thoughts????


By the way , What about the Ashes this time George??????

Cheers all , Ken Annie, Sophie , Ben , Oliver!!!!!!!!
 
Old Sep 21st 2002, 10:57 am
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    > Hi group!
    > I've been lurking around the edges of the group for a long time and had a
    > good few laughs at the posts! Loved the "crack" between the "Baldbutts" ,
    > could be better than "The Ozbournes"!!
    > Our situation, decided to apply after 5 years of hesitating. Second
burglary
    > of tools ( self employed chippy) and customer refusing to pay was probably
    > the final straw so thanks to both parties concerned!! ( BASTARDS!! ) We
went
    > to Emigrate 2002 at Sanddown Park and signed with an agent who has been
very
    > good. ( Apart from when our personal agent went on holiday and never came
    > back to work , so delaying the application by a month!! )
    > Skills assessment was sent off and finally came back after only three
weeks
    > , positive! This morning , two days later , the main application form has
    > dropped on the mat!!
    > All of a sudden we've gone from telling people that we've applied but
until
    > the skill assessment is done we don't know what's going to happen , to
being
    > involved in the process.
    > Has anyone else felt , what must be described as second thoughts. Only in
as
    > much as we're realising what a big step it is and friends and family
    > and........
    > We're still absolutely 100% for it and can't wait for the big day
    > but..........come on someone else must have had these feelings to surely!
    > Must be the shock 'cos all powers of written English have gone and I'm
    > rambling.....Any thoughts????
    > By the way , What about the Ashes this time George??????
    > Cheers all , Ken Annie, Sophie , Ben , Oliver!!!!!!!!



I had third and fourth thoughts!
It is an enormous decision, you must take a long time to consider it.

We came out and don't regret it, but I've seen quite a few return, mainly
those who cannot adapt or who have brought their own troubles with them ( A
strong marriage is very important---If you are married!)

Cheers

Russell

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you're ALL grounded.
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Old Sep 21st 2002, 12:48 pm
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There was an OZ current affairs type tv program a few years ago that covered
a large English family (with some special needs children from memory) who
emirgrated and all seemed well until a few months later when he lost his job
and a few other things happened. Anyway they got onto national tv to air
their gripes (molehills>mountains, nothing as good as UK etc) with OZ. By
the end of the interview there was probably abot 17 mill Ozzies would would
have gladdy driven them to the nearest airport to see them off.

6 weeks later they quietly returned to OZ having realised their
mistake........

Bill
"kennyboy" wrote in message
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k
...
    > Hi group!
    > I've been lurking around the edges of the group for a long time and had a
    > good few laughs at the posts! Loved the "crack" between the "Baldbutts" ,
    > could be better than "The Ozbournes"!!
    > Our situation, decided to apply after 5 years of hesitating. Second
burglary
    > of tools ( self employed chippy) and customer refusing to pay was probably
    > the final straw so thanks to both parties concerned!! ( BASTARDS!! ) We
went
    > to Emigrate 2002 at Sanddown Park and signed with an agent who has been
very
    > good. ( Apart from when our personal agent went on holiday and never came
    > back to work , so delaying the application by a month!! )
    > Skills assessment was sent off and finally came back after only three
weeks
    > , positive! This morning , two days later , the main application form has
    > dropped on the mat!!
    > All of a sudden we've gone from telling people that we've applied but
until
    > the skill assessment is done we don't know what's going to happen , to
being
    > involved in the process.
    > Has anyone else felt , what must be described as second thoughts. Only in
as
    > much as we're realising what a big step it is and friends and family
    > and........
    > We're still absolutely 100% for it and can't wait for the big day
    > but..........come on someone else must have had these feelings to surely!
    > Must be the shock 'cos all powers of written English have gone and I'm
    > rambling.....Any thoughts????
    > By the way , What about the Ashes this time George??????
    > Cheers all , Ken Annie, Sophie , Ben , Oliver!!!!!!!!
 
Old Sep 21st 2002, 3:19 pm
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    > Has anyone else felt , what must be described as second thoughts. Only in
as
    > much as we're realising what a big step it is and friends and family
    > and........

My wife and I are going on a 2 year temp visa with a PR visa to follow once
it's processed and we keep swinging between total elation at going to total
paralysing fear. It's funny but all the reasons to go seem to match all the
reasons to stay. Even the weather is throwing us at the moment. In 33 years
I never realised that I like autumn but there I am thinking that I'll miss
it. I'm also thinking about missing family members that I haven't seen head
nor tail of since Christmas anyway. I've walked passed old buildings (I live
in York) and felt quite sad at not seeing them again.

I've now put it down to my mind playing tricks on me as every time I think
it about it logically there is no way I would stay but that doesn't stop the
constant nervous doubting at 3am.

Good luck

Dean
 
Old Sep 21st 2002, 4:18 pm
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One thing that I find hard to empathise with when reading this forum is the fact that people treat emigration as such a huge irreversible step.

I could understand people having that feeling 30 or 40 years ago as they packed all their worldly belongings onto a ship and headed off for unknown territory. These days is it such a big deal ? I'd have a bigger culture shock moving to parts of Wales or Scotland.

My wife and I will be moving from the UK to Australia sometime in the next 2-3 months. We don't even use the word 'emigrating'. OK, so we are selling our property, putting all our possessions into a container, and quitting our jobs. But to us it will be just a case of living under a new jurisdiction and living in a different society. If we don't like it we will come back. We will have gained an adventure and lost practically nothing. These days the UK and Australia are only 22 hours apart physically and about 22 milliseconds apart electronically. Air fares are cheap so we should be able to travel back and forth quite regularly.

We've had a few worries (not really doubts) about going. For example we know that we are going to find it hard to live in country steeped in red tape and one that taxes you every time you fart. But then we remember the sunshine, the mangoes, the barramundi, the surf, the pies, the reef, the bush, the sailing .....

For me the biggest loss will be not being able to watch Brighton and Hove Albion. Believe me that is a HUGE sacrifice and something that may eventually bring me back to these shores.

Cast all those doubts from your mind. If it turns out that Australia or NZ is not for you then come back to dear old Blighty or move on somewhere else. What will you have lost ?
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Old Sep 21st 2002, 6:31 pm
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Hey there...
Is it better to look at moving..... as not escaping one place, but
pro-actively wanting to move to another area?
Jez

"kennyboy" wrote in message
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k
...
    > Hi group!
    > I've been lurking around the edges of the group for a long time and had a
    > good few laughs at the posts! Loved the "crack" between the "Baldbutts" ,
    > could be better than "The Ozbournes"!!
    > Our situation, decided to apply after 5 years of hesitating. Second
burglary
    > of tools ( self employed chippy) and customer refusing to pay was probably
    > the final straw so thanks to both parties concerned!! ( BASTARDS!! ) We
went
    > to Emigrate 2002 at Sanddown Park and signed with an agent who has been
very
    > good. ( Apart from when our personal agent went on holiday and never came
    > back to work , so delaying the application by a month!! )
    > Skills assessment was sent off and finally came back after only three
weeks
    > , positive! This morning , two days later , the main application form has
    > dropped on the mat!!
    > All of a sudden we've gone from telling people that we've applied but
until
    > the skill assessment is done we don't know what's going to happen , to
being
    > involved in the process.
    > Has anyone else felt , what must be described as second thoughts. Only in
as
    > much as we're realising what a big step it is and friends and family
    > and........
    > We're still absolutely 100% for it and can't wait for the big day
    > but..........come on someone else must have had these feelings to surely!
    > Must be the shock 'cos all powers of written English have gone and I'm
    > rambling.....Any thoughts????
    > By the way , What about the Ashes this time George??????
    > Cheers all , Ken Annie, Sophie , Ben , Oliver!!!!!!!!
 
Old Sep 21st 2002, 11:56 pm
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I have to agree whole heartedly with Jez. I want to move to Australia
but like most other people I am in constant turmoil over leaving the
UK, family etc.
I dont hate the UK, its a magic place really even with its often
whinged about faults. We have a wicked sense of humour here. The
history is second to none in this Tiny island. I want to seek
something different, a new life. I know it will be hard at times,
most things worth getting are. Settling in to Australian culture will
take time and I will allways miss things about the UK. Probably do my
fair share of whinging.
Like many have probably said before, "If you dont do it you will never
know". On the other hand "if you do do it you will still never know".
Nothing to lose then is there, if you really fancy it what is the
worse that can happen. You may be a big lump of cash worse off (which
can be hard I know) but u can always come back. You will still have
had an amazing experience most people arent quite brave enough or
motivated enough to do. Motivation is the major factor in doing it I
would think. It all depends what your motivation is. If it is
because you hate the UK then it may be that you are going to just feel
the same way after a short while in Australia.
I am sure Jez has hit the nail on the head when he says its really
about wanting to go to the country, not to escape one.

Neil
 
Old Sep 22nd 2002, 1:28 am
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[QUOTE][SIZE=1]Originally posted by Kennyboy:
Hi group!
>Our situation, decided to apply after 5 years of hesitating. Second burglary
of tools ( self employed chippy) and customer refusing to pay was probably <


Kenny, please take this the right way, I really feel sad when people want to emigrate for these type of reasons.

We are in Building Game and please believe me, subbies tools, house loads of new goods, building materials, even doors ripped out of houses are taken here. All of above have happened to us on new houses. It is a HUGE problem here. New estates are rife with theft and a blokes tools are not sacred here either. Anybody emigrating to escape crime or drugs is going to find exactly the same problems here. In our time here we have had two burglaries, three bikes stolen, kids ride to school and even they get nicked. Everyting and anytjhing stolen that is left out in the open, ie pool cleaners hose pipes, Shoes! . Cars broken into twice. Apart from the shoes all of above reported to the police, so please rosy spec brigade dont call me a liar! Sorry to those who dont like my truthful reply but thats FACT. As for being a chippie I could get you working tomorrow!! Good Luck with your decision.
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Kenny sorry I forgot to discuss the paying problem. Currently we are owed by two large companies and one small owner, owed as in not likely to ever get paid. All subbies here have this problem and losses. These problems seem to be same in UK and Aus. I do wonder why you thought it would be different here, not being rude but hubby and I are really curious to know why? Thanks Dotty
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Old Sep 22nd 2002, 1:41 am
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Please Rosy Spec Brigade, have enough decency to understand that I have spoken to Kenny about Issues we share in our Industry. It would be unfair to let him think these issues do not exist here. I have not told him not to immigrate, far from it, just the facts regarding two particular issues, and I hope Kenny is glad of the info. Thank You.
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Cold feet about emigrating often appear at the end of the UK summer I think. I have been wondering why I keep on thinking positive things about England at the moment and I think it's because the sun has been shining here for a change.In March I was ready to get on the next plane out of here! Weather aside though there has to be something more deep rooted about a desire to emigrate. For us it's not just about the weather , lifestyle etc. but about the challenge, excitement and novelty.I can't imagine just sitting in the same place for 40 years waiting to reach retirement.However although I agree that you can come back and it's not an irreversible decision , when kids are involved there does have to be some continuity. When I get cold feet it's usually about what we are potentially doing to the kids rather than about ourselves. I believe that they will have a great time in Oz- but I may be wrong. I guess we all have to live by what we decide and if it's absolutely wrong then extricate ourselves and put it down to best intentions .
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[QUOTE][SIZE=1]Originally posted by Kennyboy:

I'm so pleased when I read posts like this - I thought I was the only person with these kinds of feelings. My husband is absolutlely sure that he wants to give it a go and in my more rational times I agree with what everyone has written about being able to come back. My concern is that whilst we'll be pretty well off (not rich I must stess!!)moving out there (with the exchange rate) if we decide to come back we'll probably not have as much money, house prices may well have increased and so we would be going backwards here. If I was 30 I'd be less worried about this but I'm 50 (husband is in his 30s). I think I am adventurous and a risk taker and this is my only concern - any views (hopefully positive) would be appreciated.
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Hi yes exactly what i worry about- that the Uk house market will have left us behind...BUT and this is my theory- if you want to go to Oz that means you don't want to be where you are currently therefore if by some unforunated chance you decide that Oz is wrong it would be wrong to go straight back to where you came from in the UK. Therefore it would be a chance to try something new and perhaps go somewhere different where houses might be cheaper/ adopt a different lifestyle ( ie. live in a loft or cottage). It seems to me that those would be the options!!
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Originally posted by Kennyboy:
Hi group!

I've been lurking around the edges of the group for a long time and had a
good few laughs at the posts! Loved the "crack" between the "Baldbutts" ,
could be better than "The Ozbournes"!!

Our situation, decided to apply after 5 years of hesitating. Second burglary
of tools ( self employed chippy) and customer refusing to pay was probably
the final straw so thanks to both parties concerned!! ( BASTARDS!! ) We went
to Emigrate 2002 at Sanddown Park and signed with an agent who has been very
good. ( Apart from when our personal agent went on holiday and never came
back to work , so delaying the application by a month!! )

Skills assessment was sent off and finally came back after only three weeks
, positive! This morning , two days later , the main application form has
dropped on the mat!!

All of a sudden we've gone from telling people that we've applied but until
the skill assessment is done we don't know what's going to happen , to being
involved in the process.

Has anyone else felt , what must be described as second thoughts. Only in as
much as we're realising what a big step it is and friends and family
and........

We're still absolutely 100% for it and can't wait for the big day
but..........come on someone else must have had these feelings to surely!
Must be the shock 'cos all powers of written English have gone and I'm
rambling.....Any thoughts????


By the way , What about the Ashes this time George??????

Cheers all , Ken Annie, Sophie , Ben , Oliver!!!!!!!!
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Old Sep 22nd 2002, 7:48 pm
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I don't feel the same way! Just look at it (if you're nervous) as a 3-5 year plan - the same time scale you might face with a foreign posting in your work life but a hell of a lot easier than most overseas work assignments as Aus is the closest Brits get to a home from home. (I don't want any nitpicking about Eire, NZ etc!)

If you are REALLY nervous, then cover your arse by renting out your UK home and renting a place yourself in Aus. Currency worries and house price appreciation worries in UK are covered, but of course the downside is if you decide to stay in Aus and both these factors move against you, it's not so rosy.

What's the risk? Zero, more or less apart from leaving a comfortable environment for an unknown and possibly better one.

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