Girlfriend moving to Oz. is it possible
#91
Re: Girlfriend moving to Oz. is it possible
Might have to use the Feb bookings as a holiday and go home again or delay the booking until the visa has come through. Always a big risk arriving on a tourist visa not intending to be a tourist.
Last edited by quoll; Nov 22nd 2017 at 5:15 am.
#92
Re: Girlfriend moving to Oz. is it possible
Aren’t you going to struggle to get the 12 months cohabitation evidence for the 820? Surely a PMV would be the way to go?
Might have to use the Feb bookings as a holiday and go home again or delay the booking until the visa has come through. Always a big risk arriving on a tourist visa not intending to be a tourist.
Might have to use the Feb bookings as a holiday and go home again or delay the booking until the visa has come through. Always a big risk arriving on a tourist visa not intending to be a tourist.
Please correct me if you know different and I've missed something.
Thanks
#94
Re: Girlfriend moving to Oz. is it possible
Hi guys, i must say i'm getting a little spooked by all of this.
Initially i was advised to go down this route of coming on the tourist visa, registering the relationship or getting married, and then applying for the 820 visa.
No need to go thru a migration agent, it'll all be sweet.
The last few posts have got me on edge and i'm wondering if our plans may have to change.
Anyone got anything that might put my mind at rest.....
I am wondering how it is a risk if we follow the rules, surely its either allowed or not allowed.....
Cheers
Initially i was advised to go down this route of coming on the tourist visa, registering the relationship or getting married, and then applying for the 820 visa.
No need to go thru a migration agent, it'll all be sweet.
The last few posts have got me on edge and i'm wondering if our plans may have to change.
Anyone got anything that might put my mind at rest.....
I am wondering how it is a risk if we follow the rules, surely its either allowed or not allowed.....
Cheers
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Re: Girlfriend moving to Oz. is it possible
Hi guys, i must say i'm getting a little spooked by all of this.
Initially i was advised to go down this route of coming on the tourist visa, registering the relationship or getting married, and then applying for the 820 visa.
No need to go thru a migration agent, it'll all be sweet.
The last few posts have got me on edge and i'm wondering if our plans may have to change.
Anyone got anything that might put my mind at rest.....
I am wondering how it is a risk if we follow the rules, surely its either allowed or not allowed.....
Cheers
Initially i was advised to go down this route of coming on the tourist visa, registering the relationship or getting married, and then applying for the 820 visa.
No need to go thru a migration agent, it'll all be sweet.
The last few posts have got me on edge and i'm wondering if our plans may have to change.
Anyone got anything that might put my mind at rest.....
I am wondering how it is a risk if we follow the rules, surely its either allowed or not allowed.....
Cheers
Once she arrives, she can change her mind, get married etc and apply onshore for a 820. When her tourist visa expires she will go onto a Bridging Visa A and can work. Make sure the 820 application goes in at least a few days before the other expires, in case of any hitches like payment not going through first time.
The problems come when people think they can arrive with the intention of staying and never leaving, when in fact their visa only allows them to stay for three months.
Many people arrive as tourists and want to apply for the 80 on de facto grounds, that means they have to build up 12 months living together and hence they hop in and out of Aus every three moths on tourist visas. This is not what the tourist visa is for and is fraught with danger - there s a story on another forum recently of someone who was denied entry after they pulled her up for repeatedly doing the three month thing.
If you are planning to marry then she doesn't need to worry about the leaving/re-entering as long as you get the marriage and the new visa application doen within the first three months.
Too late now I guess, but marrying and applying offshore for a 309/100 and just entering on that would have been less stressful and much much quicker. 820 timelines are reputedly stretching out to 2-3 years at resent.
Last edited by Pollyana; Nov 27th 2017 at 3:49 am.
#96
Re: Girlfriend moving to Oz. is it possible
Wow this info has really thrown me......there i was being advised for her to come on her 3 month tourist visa, register the relationship or get married and then apply for the 820.....it seems it isn't as straightforward as i believed....OK so now I'm worried.....I'm wondering if we need to change our plans
Many thanks
Many thanks
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Re: Girlfriend moving to Oz. is it possible
Wow this info has really thrown me......there i was being advised for her to come on her 3 month tourist visa, register the relationship or get married and then apply for the 820.....it seems it isn't as straightforward as i believed....OK so now I'm worried.....I'm wondering if we need to change our plans
Many thanks
Many thanks
Many people follow the route you propose, almost all of them are successful. But it would be negligent of us on here if we didn't point out the difference. DIBP have designed a visa for people coming as Spouses from offshore - its the 309/100, and they want you to apply for it and get it offshore.
Doing the tourist visa to 820 route is not what they want, and while it is perfectly legal if you arrive with the right intention, if they think you plan to do it they can refuse you.
Having said all that, I've been in this game a long time and I haven't seen anyone turned back yet trying to do evisitor/820. Thats not to say it deosn't happen, but there is little evdence of it on forums, especially for UK nationals. The only one I know of who has actually been sent home is someone on another forum who was on her third re-entry on an evisitor, 3 months in, 1 week out, x 3 - trying to build up de facto time.
The other main thing to think of though is the processing times. Up till recently both onshore and offshore were around 12-18 months. Now many offshore are being processed in around 6 months Onshore has ballooned to anything up to 4 years. That is a lifetime on a Bridging Visa. Not only will there be problems with employment, as many employers will not give permanent roles to someone who might have to leave tomorrow, but every time you want to leave Aus and return you have to apply for a Bridging Visa B, more hassle, more money. Also things will be harder regarding finance, mortgages etc
#98
Re: Girlfriend moving to Oz. is it possible
Thanks Pollyanna, i really appreciate the time you spend answering my queries.
I guess the employment situation is a bridge we'll have to cross if it arrives.
Travel isn't something we'd be doing a lot of anyway, maybe once or twice in the 4 years and other than that we'd be happy to stay onshore here in Oz.
Many many thanks
McDoosh
I guess the employment situation is a bridge we'll have to cross if it arrives.
Travel isn't something we'd be doing a lot of anyway, maybe once or twice in the 4 years and other than that we'd be happy to stay onshore here in Oz.
Many many thanks
McDoosh
#99
Re: Girlfriend moving to Oz. is it possible
Medical cover is another thing to be aware of. The reciprocal arrangement between UK and Aus doesnt cover everything, just necessary medical treatment. Some things you might think are necessary might well not be, according to the schedule of payments. That's why travel insurance for tourists has the medical care cover on it.
#100
Re: Girlfriend moving to Oz. is it possible
Hi guys, i've re-read thru the entire thread and we're going to stay the course as previously planned. But what kind of evidence can we provide with our 820 visa application that shows we're in a genuine relationship but our intention wasn't to come on the tourist visa and get married.......
Many thanks in advance
McDoosh
Many thanks in advance
McDoosh
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Re: Girlfriend moving to Oz. is it possible
Hi guys, i've re-read thru the entire thread and we're going to stay the course as previously planned. But what kind of evidence can we provide with our 820 visa application that shows we're in a genuine relationship but our intention wasn't to come on the tourist visa and get married.......
Many thanks in advance
McDoosh
Many thanks in advance
McDoosh
You should have lots of evidence that you are a couple, if you have been living together etc, joint hotels, joint flights, events you have attended together, any cash going between the two of you etc etc
However if you turn up with the wedding and a honeymoon already booked, and evidence of it in your luggage.....or she arrives with a long white dress in her bag........that kind of gives it away.
#103
Re: Girlfriend moving to Oz. is it possible
Hi guys, i've re-read thru the entire thread and we're going to stay the course as previously planned. But what kind of evidence can we provide with our 820 visa application that shows we're in a genuine relationship but our intention wasn't to come on the tourist visa and get married.......
Many thanks in advance
McDoosh
Many thanks in advance
McDoosh
#104
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I'll be Jazzys thanks very much :-)
It's all good Pollyanna, we won't be turning up with anything booked or a big white dress in her suitcase. lol
As for the thought of going back to the UK for a year, good lord, don't make me do that please. that would be an absolute last resort.
No job and freezing my proverbials off doesn't sound much fun at all. and then i'd have to come back to no job and nowhere to live too.
Not if i can help it..........
Cheers
Jazzys
Last edited by BEVS; Nov 30th 2017 at 6:56 pm. Reason: All sorted now.
#105
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Hi guys,
Well here we are in mid february and all is well in Jazzy's world.
My partner is once again on Australian soil after we've spent a few days together in Singapore.
She's on her tourist visa but we'd love to make her stay a permanent one and eventually get married.
Is the first thing for us to register a civil partnership and then apply for the 820 visa, giving her the bridging visa she needs until the visa application is processed?
Thank you
Jazzys
Well here we are in mid february and all is well in Jazzy's world.
My partner is once again on Australian soil after we've spent a few days together in Singapore.
She's on her tourist visa but we'd love to make her stay a permanent one and eventually get married.
Is the first thing for us to register a civil partnership and then apply for the 820 visa, giving her the bridging visa she needs until the visa application is processed?
Thank you
Jazzys