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Old Feb 4th 2003, 5:23 pm
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Originally posted by pleasancefamily
Peter - that was a crystal clear explanation. Any chance of doing the same thing for NZ passport holders going to work in Aus - are there any easy ways for them to get Aus PR/ citizenship too?
Don, and everyone else,

Thanks for the feedback. I didn't think it (my explanation) was particularly exceptional actually :-)

I can't write much about the NZ'er -> Oz way, as NZ'er doesn't quite have so many rights when in Oz.

A NZ'er gets a Special Category Visa (SCV) upon entering Oz, unless he does not meet security and/or health standards:
http://www.nz-oz.gov.au/internet/nz-...ry-nav.htm#scv

An SCV that is granted to an eligible NZ'er is not a permanent visa, but the SCV holder can remain in Oz indefinitely, and exit Australia and re-enter Australia and immediately get another SCV upon re-entry (if he/she continues to be eligible for an SCV at the time of re-entry).

An SCV holder may apply for an Australian PR visa just like any other applicant, but under different the onshore NZ'er category. The biggest plus factor is that a NZ'er can apply for the Aussie PR visa onshore - saving him/her the flight ticket :-) Guess all is not lost after all.

A NZ PR does not have any privilege of entry into, work or residence in Australia.

Like I said, there isn't much to say about a NZ'er wishing to go to Australia on the strength of his/her NZ passport.


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Originally posted by ptlabs
An SCV holder may apply for an Australian PR visa just like any other applicant, but under different the onshore NZ'er category. The biggest plus factor is that a NZ'er can apply for the Aussie PR visa onshore - saving him/her the flight ticket :-) Guess all is not lost after all.
Forgot to add that a NZ'er does not have any right to apply for Oz citizenship at the end of 2 years of stay in Australia on an SCV. This is because an SCV is a temporary visa, although it allows for the holder to legally stay in Oz indefinitely. It's like a indefinite temporary visa, or permanently temporary visa... whichever way you want to put it.

So, a NZ'er has to go through the same process of applying for a PR visa, and be granted a PR visa, and then staying in Australia on that PR visa for the required amount of time (along with satisfying other citizenship criteria) before he/she is able to apply for Oz citizenship.


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Old Feb 5th 2003, 5:42 am
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    >On Wed, 05 Feb 2003 06:28:41 +0000, ptlabs wrote:
    >Originally posted by ptlabs
    >> An SCV holder may apply for an Australian PR visa just like any other
    >> applicant, but under different the onshore NZ'er category. The biggest
    >> plus factor is that a NZ'er can apply for the Aussie PR visa onshore -
    >> saving him/her the flight ticket :-) Guess all is not lost after all.
    >>
    >Forgot to add that a NZ'er does not have any right to apply for Oz
    >citizenship at the end of 2 years of stay in Australia on an SCV. This
    >is because an SCV is a temporary visa, although it allows for the holder
    >to legally stay in Oz indefinitely. It's like a indefinite temporary
    >visa, or permanently temporary visa... whichever way you want to put it.

However, those New Zealanders treated as 'eligible NZers' under the
2001 arrangements do have the right to apply for Australian
citizenship, and sponsor non-NZ citizen relatives for permanent
residence, despite the fact their SCV is still a temporary visa.

Those arriving since early/mid 2001 (exact date depending on
circumstances) need to apply for PR specifically.

Jeremy


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Old Feb 5th 2003, 6:26 am
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Not sure what you're asking.

For NZ citizens: http://www.nz-oz.gov.au

For NZ permanent residents: no special routes at all.

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    >On Wed, 05 Feb 2003 05:17:32 +0000, pleasancefamily wrote:
    >Peter - that was a crystal clear explanation. Any chance of doing the
    >same thing for NZ passport holders going to work in Aus - are there any
    >easy ways for them to get Aus PR/ citizenship too?
    >Cheers - Don
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Jeremy,

That's true, but I thought the more precise term to use is a holder of a protected SCV - given to those who arrived in Australia before the new rules came into effect in 2001.

http://www.nz-oz.gov.au/internet/nz-...nav.htm#status

So, there is a difference between a PSCV and a SCV.

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However, those New Zealanders treated as 'eligible NZers' under the 2001 arrangements do have the right to apply for Australian citizenship, and sponsor non-NZ citizen relatives for permanent residence, despite the fact their SCV is still a temporary visa.

Those arriving since early/mid 2001 (exact date depending on circumstances) need to apply for PR specifically.
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Peter,

Thanks for the explanations. Another advantage (when we qualifz for NZ passport) would be that it will be much easier to get a job in Aus and claim points for that before applying for PR.

Cheers - Don

Originally posted by ptlabs
Forgot to add that a NZ'er does not have any right to apply for Oz citizenship at the end of 2 years of stay in Australia on an SCV. This is because an SCV is a temporary visa, although it allows for the holder to legally stay in Oz indefinitely. It's like a indefinite temporary visa, or permanently temporary visa... whichever way you want to put it.

So, a NZ'er has to go through the same process of applying for a PR visa, and be granted a PR visa, and then staying in Australia on that PR visa for the required amount of time (along with satisfying other citizenship criteria) before he/she is able to apply for Oz citizenship.


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Jeremy,

I was interested to know if NZ citizens have any 'easy' routes into Aus PR/ citizenship - easy compared to non-NZ citizens.

Cheers - Don

Originally posted by Jaj
Don
Not sure what you're asking.

For NZ citizens: http://www.nz-oz.gov.au

For NZ permanent residents: no special routes at all.

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    >On Wed, 05 Feb 2003 05:17:32 +0000, pleasancefamily wrote:
    >Peter - that was a crystal clear explanation. Any chance of doing the
    >same thing for NZ passport holders going to work in Aus - are there any
    >easy ways for them to get Aus PR/ citizenship too?
    >Cheers - Don
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    >Posted via http://britishexpats.com

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Don,

That's quite true. A NZ'er on an SCV may work and live in Oz so long as he/she satisfies Oz' health and character requirements. With that mobility, a NZ'er has a better chance at claiming the Aussie work experience points than other non-Aussie nationals.


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Originally posted by pleasancefamily
Thanks for the explanations. Another advantage (when we qualifz for NZ passport) would be that it will be much easier to get a job in Aus and claim points for that before applying for PR.
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