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ramykimo Jun 26th 2011 12:26 pm

Engineers Australia Assessment (merged threads)
 
I passed the IELTS now I preparing my CDR for Engineers Australia as a Petroleum Engineer..Any one can help me ? if you have any CDR samples please tell me ...Even if those sample are not for petroleum engineers I will use them as a guide only.

vober Jun 26th 2011 3:30 pm

Re: CDR for Engineers Australia
 

Originally Posted by ramykimo (Post 9457956)
I passed the IELTS now I preparing my CDR for Engineers Australia as a Petroleum Engineer..Any one can help me ? if you have any CDR samples please tell me ...Even if those sample are not for petroleum engineers I will use them as a guide only.

PM me your email id.I will give you a copy of my CDR. I got assessed as an "Electronics Engineer". But remember the CDR has to be your own work. Just try to check the format from mine and yes read all the instructions mentioned in the handbook throughly.

I just hope the moderators don't get offended with me sharing my CDR as a sample. :-)

Cheers
Vaibhav

ramykimo Jun 26th 2011 3:40 pm

Re: CDR for Engineers Australia
 

Originally Posted by vober (Post 9458160)
PM me your email id.I will give you a copy of my CDR. I got assessed as an "Electronics Engineer". But remember the CDR has to be your own work. Just try to check the format from mine and yes read all the instructions mentioned in the handbook throughly.

I just hope the moderators don't get offended with me sharing my CDR as a sample. :-)

Cheers
Vaibhav

I sent u my email in a pm ...Have u ever heard about rejection from EA? is it an easy walk?..I appreciate your help and looking forward for other members to share thier experience.

vober Jun 26th 2011 5:57 pm

Re: CDR for Engineers Australia
 

Originally Posted by ramykimo (Post 9458182)
I sent u my email in a pm ...Have u ever heard about rejection from EA? is it an easy walk?..I appreciate your help and looking forward for other members to share thier experience.

Its easy provided you follow all the instructions. DO NOT leave any thing mentioned in the handbook. they follow the hand book line by line.

Its easy and they will advise as to how the correct the submission. Atleast they helped me by letting me know where I had gone wrong with my submission and allowed me time to correct my mistakes.

Follow the pattern I have sent you.

Cheers!!

Vaibhav

shanjani Jul 5th 2011 12:54 pm

Engineers Australia Assessment
 
Dear all

could any body know for how many months engineers australia assessment is valid?
and according to new point system do i have to take 6 ielts in all band in order to apply for engineers australia as it was before?

plz advice

thnks

Siealman Jul 6th 2011 6:18 am

Re: Engineers Australia Assessment
 
For first part of your question, according to EA, the assessment outcome will remain valid indefinitely however their understanding with DIAC is that the assessment notification be no more than 5 years old at the date of migration application. An updated letter of assessment after this time can be obtained by sending back the original letter to EA.
For the second part, Yes you need at least 6 in all bands.

shanjani Jul 6th 2011 6:35 am

Re: Engineers Australia Assessment
 
thanx sielman

jibranshah Jul 7th 2011 6:01 am

Re: CDR for Engineers Australia
 
Hi, I am Electronic Engineer and currently preparing my CDR but the problem is that I have work experience of electrical projects and electronic equipments. Can I use use these projects like Design of Electrical system, PLC system and CCTV system as the basis of my Career Episodes? Please help.

Siealman Jul 7th 2011 6:06 am

Re: CDR for Engineers Australia
 

Originally Posted by jibranshah (Post 9480366)
Hi, I am Electronic Engineer and currently preparing my CDR but the problem is that I have work experience of electrical projects and electronic equipments. Can I use use these projects like Design of Electrical system, PLC system and CCTV system as the basis of my Career Episodes? Please help.

Yes, why not. If you have done projects like designing electrical, PLC CCTV systems it would serve as career episodes.

jibranshah Jul 7th 2011 6:27 am

Re: CDR for Engineers Australia
 

Originally Posted by Siealman (Post 9480374)
Yes, why not. If you have done projects like designing electrical, PLC CCTV systems it would serve as career episodes.

Thanks!

ramykimo Jul 7th 2011 7:50 am

Re: CDR for Engineers Australia
 

Originally Posted by jibranshah (Post 9480400)
Thanks!

Guys,

Let's share or CDR ..This very important and helpful.

jibranshah Jul 7th 2011 10:45 am

Re: CDR for Engineers Australia
 
While going through the EA Website, I noticed that they have been authorized by DIAC for providing an opinion on skilled employment claims which will form the basis of the points awarded for Australian/overseas work experience. They say "High-level evidence will be required to support any claim of work experience". The details will be available soon in July 2011 edition of MSA booklet. Lets wait for it before proceeding for skills assessment. see link below:

http://www.engineersaustralia.org.au...a/msa_home.cfm

Siealman Jul 7th 2011 11:48 am

Re: CDR for Engineers Australia
 

Originally Posted by ramykimo (Post 9480502)
Guys,

Let's share or CDR ..This very important and helpful.

Sharing a CDR wont help you a lot...what u can do is prepare ur CDR and dscuss it thoroughly wid someone...u should first of all select 3 projects and start by writing a draft of ur career episodes.

ramykimo Jul 10th 2011 11:10 am

Re: CDR for Engineers Australia
 

Originally Posted by jibranshah (Post 9480764)
While going through the EA Website, I noticed that they have been authorized by DIAC for providing an opinion on skilled employment claims which will form the basis of the points awarded for Australian/overseas work experience. They say "High-level evidence will be required to support any claim of work experience". The details will be available soon in July 2011 edition of MSA booklet. Lets wait for it before proceeding for skills assessment. see link below:

http://www.engineersaustralia.org.au...a/msa_home.cfm

Thanks for Highlighting this...Do you have any more details? what about the new MSA bocklet..it's seems that it's getting harder to be +ve assessed.

jibranshah Jul 11th 2011 7:39 am

Re: CDR for Engineers Australia
 
I contacted EA via email and they mentioned that the new MSA booklet will be available "early this week".

Regarding your point of assessment becoming harder, I think that current CDR based system is hard enough and I wonder what else they can demand from us.

Lets wait for new booklet to know the details.

ramykimo Jul 11th 2011 7:54 am

Re: CDR for Engineers Australia
 

Originally Posted by jibranshah (Post 9487759)
I contacted EA via email and they mentioned that the new MSA booklet will be available "early this week".

Regarding your point of assessment becoming harder, I think that current CDR based system is hard enough and I wonder what else they can demand from us.

Lets wait for new booklet to know the details.

Can I ask you some Questions?..1- what kind of engineer are you? 2-Have ever heard about rejection from EA?

oilman Jul 11th 2011 8:07 am

Re: CDR for Engineers Australia
 
Isn't the current pdf copy at their website an updated one...or there is one more coming up

jibranshah Jul 11th 2011 10:15 am

Re: CDR for Engineers Australia
 

Originally Posted by ramykimo (Post 9487781)
Can I ask you some Questions?..1- what kind of engineer are you? 2-Have ever heard about rejection from EA?

Electronics Engineer. I cannot comment about the rejection from EA as I recently came to know about this CDR thing from Engineers Australia. What I feel from their approach that they are supposed to assess us against our qualifications and skills and give their recommendation for equivalency according to Australian standards. If you dont have enough experience or irrelevant qualification (which does not pertain to their domain) then they will simply notify you for a different path.



Originally Posted by oilman (Post 9487810)
Isn't the current pdf copy at their website an updated one...or there is one more coming up

The currently available version is of January 2011 which will be amended and July 2011 version will be released soon to reflect the changes of new points test of DIAC.

oilman Jul 13th 2011 7:23 am

Re: CDR for Engineers Australia
 
I think they have uploaded the latest one...I am a novice, pardon me if i am wrong..


If its a new one what are the additional requirements and how will it impact

jibranshah Jul 13th 2011 2:36 pm

Re: CDR for Engineers Australia
 
Yes, the new MSA booklet (July 2011 Edition) is now available at EA website. I see no major change in CDR based method, the only addition is the assessment of skilled employment for DIAC at an extra cost of AUD 150.

richi6787 Aug 4th 2011 10:32 am

Re: CDR for Engineers Australia
 
Hello Vaibhav...

I need your help desperately....As i am going to assess my degree through Engineers Australia and as everybody needs CDR report to fullfill their criteria. I need your help.

As i am going to assess as Biomedical engineer but i just want to see a sample report...


PLease....
(And one more thing, Do u hav any idea if some one has done Bachelor of engineering in Biotechnology whether it is possible to assess as biomedical engineer..?? )

Thanks,:thumbsup::fingerscrossed:

richi6787 Aug 4th 2011 12:01 pm

Re: CDR for Engineers Australia
 
Anyone has any such CDR samples..???? please need it badly...

oilman Sep 4th 2011 1:00 pm

Re: CDR for Engineers Australia
 
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I am confused regarding the assessment....I will be claiming points for my 3 years offshore work exp....in order to get these 05 points, should my cdr be written at the end of 3 years.....or I can send it now(2.5 years exp)...and claim later for the 03 years experience when i submit my app to DIAC...can anyone go through page 26 of 52of EA assessment booklet(additional assessment services)...

day by day its getting complex...

newjersey Sep 4th 2011 1:21 pm

Re: CDR for Engineers Australia
 

Originally Posted by oilman (Post 9599713)
I am confused regarding the assessment....I will be claiming points for my 3 years offshore work exp....in order to get these 05 points, should my cdr be written at the end of 3 years.....or I can send it now(2.5 years exp)...and claim later for the 03 years experience when i submit my app to DIAC...can anyone go through page 26 of 52of EA assessment booklet(additional assessment services)...

day by day its getting complex...

points test is DIAC's instrument has nothing to do with the EA assessment. If you have enough to pass the assessment, you can go for it now. When you have enough to claim additional points with DIAC you will apply for the visa. DIAC does their own calculations of the work experience.

oilman Sep 4th 2011 3:10 pm

Re: CDR for Engineers Australia
 
then why is this mentioned on page 26 in section D..

"2. Applicability of additional services

It should be noted that not all clients will require these
additional assessing services. Such services are
anticipated to be ONLY of interest to the following clients:

• those who hold a higher-level qualification than may be
strictly necessary to provide the nominated outcome;


and / or

• those who have at least 1 year Australian work
experience, and / or at least 3 years Overseas work
experience in their nominated occupation or a closelyrelated
occupation.


Either or both of these services may be applied for if the
client wishes to claim the DIAC points."

newjersey Sep 4th 2011 3:53 pm

Re: CDR for Engineers Australia
 

Originally Posted by oilman (Post 9599894)
then why is this mentioned on page 26 in section D..

"2. Applicability of additional services

It should be noted that not all clients will require these
additional assessing services. Such services are
anticipated to be ONLY of interest to the following clients:

• those who hold a higher-level qualification than may be
strictly necessary to provide the nominated outcome;


and / or

• those who have at least 1 year Australian work
experience, and / or at least 3 years Overseas work
experience in their nominated occupation or a closelyrelated
occupation.


Either or both of these services may be applied for if the
client wishes to claim the DIAC points."

This is an additional service, offered be EA, that may or may not be needed. It is also separate from the skills assessment itself. It says at the beginning of the section that DIAC *may* request an opinion, but they don't have to. Yes, it would be less risky for you to apply for assessment and for this optional opinion at the same time, after you have completed your 3 years, this way you could pretty much bank on the extra points in the visa application, but you don't have to have it upfront, and DIAC may not even request it. These rules are quite new and there is not enough info available publicly to opine on, so keep us updated on how you go about it.

oilman Sep 4th 2011 4:46 pm

Re: CDR for Engineers Australia
 

Originally Posted by newjersey (Post 9599934)
This is an additional service, offered be EA, that may or may not be needed. It is also separate from the skills assessment itself. It says at the beginning of the section that DIAC *may* request an opinion, but they don't have to. Yes, it would be less risky for you to apply for assessment and for this optional opinion at the same time, after you have completed your 3 years, this way you could pretty much bank on the extra points in the visa application, but you don't have to have it upfront, and DIAC may not even request it. These rules are quite new and there is not enough info available publicly to opine on, so keep us updated on how you go about it.

Thnx newjersey for ur input...would let everyone here know what happens to my assessment..

chapkenv Sep 14th 2011 7:19 am

other posts vary...
 
there have been other posts with official links stating the same 5 yrs to be 12 months ie. you must apply to DIAC within 1 yr of your outcome letter from EA, but the EA website says 5 yrs according to their general understanding :unsure: (not necessarily understanding with DIAC)

oilman Sep 20th 2011 10:29 am

CDR for EA assessment review
 
I am almost done with my CDR but not feeling confident regarding the occupation ill be applying for. My intended occupation is mechanical engineering but i have been working in upstream oil and gas sector. so my career episodes include alot of drilling terminologies..

Can anyone over here give each episode a review. it would ideally be a person assessed positively by EA, has done mechanical engineering and working in upstream oil sector...any mechanical engineer who has been assessed positively by EA is also welcomed.


PM me ur id, ill send u the episodes in couple of days..

nomadinusa Oct 10th 2011 9:46 am

Engineers australia assessment time?
 
Hi everyone;
I have applied to Engineers australia to get my assessment done...
any idea how much time they take for this ?

Pollyana Oct 10th 2011 11:37 am

Re: Engineers australia assessment time?
 

Originally Posted by nomadinusa (Post 9667054)
Hi everyone;
I have applied to Engineers australia to get my assessment done...
any idea how much time they take for this ?

All applications, whether to DIAC or assessment bodies, are individual. No-one can tell you exactly how long one will take.

ahmedEE Oct 11th 2011 10:57 am

Re: Engineers australia assessment time?
 

Originally Posted by nomadinusa (Post 9667054)
Hi everyone;
I have applied to Engineers australia to get my assessment done...
any idea how much time they take for this ?

Their normal processing time for non-recognized qualification is 16 weeks. The trend of recent assessment outcomes as posted by people on this forum shows that they consistently comply to this 16 weeks processing time.

nomadinusa Oct 12th 2011 3:01 am

Re: Engineers australia assessment time?
 
thanks ...
i appreciate it...
have you already applied ?
:)

Originally Posted by ahmedEE (Post 9668814)
Their normal processing time for non-recognized qualification is 16 weeks. The trend of recent assessment outcomes as posted by people on this forum shows that they consistently comply to this 16 weeks processing time.


ahmedEE Oct 12th 2011 4:25 am

Re: Engineers australia assessment time?
 

Originally Posted by nomadinusa (Post 9670323)
thanks ...
i appreciate it...
have you already applied ?
:)

Yup, into my 7th week of wait!:thumbup:

r11 Oct 12th 2011 5:32 am

Re: Engineers Australia Assessment (merged threads)
 
It seems their estimates are very accurate. My assessment took exactly 16weeks.

nomadinusa Oct 12th 2011 7:53 am

Re: Engineers australia assessment time?
 
when can we expect to get the CID # ?


Originally Posted by ahmedEE (Post 9670390)
Yup, into my 7th week of wait!:thumbup:


ahmedEE Oct 12th 2011 10:07 am

Re: Engineers australia assessment time?
 

Originally Posted by nomadinusa (Post 9670556)
when can we expect to get the CID # ?

I got mine within 3 days of CDR documents delivery.

oilman Oct 12th 2011 10:51 am

Re: Engineers Australia Assessment (merged threads)
 
Guys is it just me or every one....previously it was written on this page date that turnaround time for assessment is 16 weeks and now they have changed it to 12 weeks...

They have stated

Generally, for:

Non-accredited qualifications – turnaround is currently about 12 weeks from the date of receipt. Note this time can be highly variable depending on numbers of incoming applications
Accredited Australian and Accord qualifications – currently about 3-4 weeks.

Reference : http://www.engineersaustralia.org.au...a/msa_home.cfm

nomadinusa Oct 12th 2011 11:03 am

Re: Engineers australia assessment time?
 
Wow tht was quick..
Even the website says 5-7 working days..wonder how you got it soo fast..;)


Originally Posted by ahmedEE (Post 9670734)
I got mine within 3 days of CDR documents delivery.


ahmedEE Oct 12th 2011 3:46 pm

Re: Engineers Australia Assessment (merged threads)
 

Originally Posted by oilman (Post 9670785)
Guys is it just me or every one....previously it was written on this page date that turnaround time for assessment is 16 weeks and now they have changed it to 12 weeks...

They have stated

Generally, for:

Non-accredited qualifications – turnaround is currently about 12 weeks from the date of receipt. Note this time can be highly variable depending on numbers of incoming applications
Accredited Australian and Accord qualifications – currently about 3-4 weeks.

Reference : http://www.engineersaustralia.org.au...a/msa_home.cfm

It was 16 previously for sure, but now it's 12 weeks, good news for all applicants.:thumbup:
Thanks for sharing this observation.


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