3zooz

Hi ,

Does any of u guys know how DIAC check on employment if they decide to do that ??
Do they call at work and ask about the applicant ?? If so , do they mention that it is for immigration purpose ??

I don't have any problems if they do so and check , my problem is not to tell my employer that they are from the immigration and that I am involved in such a process as this may cause some trouble or inconvenience to me at work . ( I mean if my employer comes to know that I will be leaving my work after the process is finished , this may lead to some trouble ... Hope u guys got what I mean !!!)

Does any of u have experience with this point ??? I need urgent response pls.

Cheers

Deutschmaster

How big is your organisation - could you give the contact of human resources rather than your immediate boss?

I'm in the same position - everybody in my place leaves once they have PR. Although I already told them I hope to be getting my PR soon as didn't care if they knew.

Look on the bright side - if your employer knew you were leaving soon they may offer better conditions to keep you to stay

shafanm

This is an interesting thread which is very relevant for those who are on the migration pipeline. Very often when companies comes to know their employee are leaving for good, the working environment with the employer becomes sour,
How can one overcome over this situation?
Further some former employers with whom if you had a bad relationship, they might even refuse to divulge any info to DIAC,

What remedies does applicant have in such scenario ?

saad1983

yeah same issue bothers me as well

What happened if the employer refuse to verify?

please let us know what to do as this is a problem from which most of the applicants are suffering

ddb

Another question on this:

I have been working with my current employer for last 5+ years and I have provided reference letter from them to DIAC.

Will it be any harm to my application, if I change job now?

Deutschmaster

I reckon it's probably best to stay in the same job until visa grant if possible - otherwise you have the hassle of dealing with DIAC and changing the employer

I suppose the question whether it would harm your application also depends on the type of visa that you are applying for and if the new job is in the same field. Also I think some visas might request that you work with an employer for a certain length of time.

ronan_in_Oz

No it will not harm your application at all. You only need to Inform DIAC by filling out the 'Change in circumstances' form I believe.

ronan_in_Oz

Deutschemaster is correct. How big is your organization? I was in the same boat and It was simply impossible for me to talk to my boss. I work for an MNC and I decided to contact my HR Manager for the Work experience certificate (luckly its in the Company policy to provide experience certificate when asked for ). As far as Reference letters are concerned you can get it from one of your superior, who knows you really well. Not necessarily your manager.

In the end not every applicant gets a job verification call. It all depends on how credible your application and your work experience is.

3zooz

Hi ronan_in_oz ,

As I told u guys , it is pretty difficult for me to talk to anyone in the company. Instead , I uploaded all what I can to avoid them contacting my employer like : My contract , bank transactions report stating my salary deposit each month since I started working with my current employer , my residence permit since I work in a foreign country , my medical insurance card issued by my current employer (it's name is on the card ) and the main contract signed by the CEO from the company main headquarter located in another country .

What do u think people ??? Is that credible and persuading enough ???

Cheers

cookiestar

I'm curious to know more about this? I assumed that all applications would be checked, but thinking about it, that would create a very huge volume of work for the COs.

Deutschmaster

I've always wondered about the applicant having to demonstrate to DIAC that they are working here - surely DIAC could check with the tax office?

torcraw

In most countries, that would violate privacy laws. Tax/revenue departments are usually prohibited from sharing their information with other agencies unless there is a specific court or similar order (and they would certainly not share info with a foreign government unless there was a tax treaty request, and the paperwork and justification needed to do that would make routine requests near impossible and cost prohibitive).

Most large companies also have corporate policies that prohibit HR departments from answering any employment verification questions other than saying you worked there and for how long. And if a large company has multiple offices/locations or does off-site customer work, there's a good chance that you would rarely or never actually work at the location that is printed as the company's address. I'm not sure how feasible or thorough these checks really could be in these scenarios.

3zooz

that's what I mean exactly torcraw ... Is DIAC aware of this ??

ronan_in_Oz

Hi,

I assume you are applying for a skilled migrant visa and currently you are trying to show your recent work experience.

Have you gone through the following?

http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/gener...ence-study.htm

According to the link, the most credible application should/at least have most of the following:

I) Certified copies of your work references for any positions held during the relevant period. Your work experience references must meet the following requirements:

a) the reference should show the official letterhead of the company or government department providing the reference

b) the letterhead should indicate clearly the full address of the company and any telephone, fax numbers, email and website addresses

c) the name and position of the person authorised to sign the employment reference should be typed or stamped below that person's signature – a reference with an illegible signature will not be accepted

d) the direct contact number of the person writing the reference should be included in the letter

e) the letter should indicate the exact period of employment, including whether permanent or temporary, full or part time, position/s held, the main five (5) duties undertaken, and the salary earned – positions should not be described by generic titles (for example, research officer, public servant) but according to the nature of the duties undertaken (for example, research chemist, accounts clerk)

II) a payslip from your current employment should also be included – this is especially important for applicants working in government departments.

Other documents which may assist you in evidencing your work experience claims could include, but are not limited to:

contracts
pay slips
tax returns
group certificates
superannuation information.

If you have all/most of the above, your application should be fine I guess.


Ronan

ronan_in_Oz

Exactly. I believe It is simply not feasible for DIAC to investigate every single application. Imagine the time and money involved. I feel this is done on a random basis or if they find some inconsistency in your application.

As pointed by many, large companies may not entertain any sort of external verification. But I also feel that DIAC may just not directly call your office to ask your whereabouts. They may have other means to verify your details. This is just my opinion. Ofcourse none can answer this question.

My case was pretty straightforward. I have been working for the same organization for a really long time now. Luckily I could submit all/most of the required documents. I certainly don't remember any sort of verification. As I said earlier, this may or may not happen in every case.


Ronan