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Old Dec 29th 2009, 4:35 am
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Hi all,

Thanks for reading. Our family of 2 adults and 3 kids are all citizenships (one by birth).

We are likely to move back to the UK in the coming months. Hubby and I have valid UK passports and so do 1 of our kids.

For the other two I will be apply for his first passport (Aussie born) and the other needs either UK or Australian to travel.

If we aren't planning on returning to Australia do we need to get Australian passports for Hubby, myself and the child with a valid UK one. The cost is around $500 for us 3 and the other two would be $200. Like I said we are all citizens.

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P.s Passport office closed today and we have our passport appointment tomorrow.
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Old Dec 29th 2009, 6:22 am
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Default Re: Do we need to get Aussie passports if we are not returning?

Originally Posted by PoppetUK
Hi all,
If we aren't planning on returning to Australia do we need to get Australian passports for Hubby, myself and the child with a valid UK one. The cost is around $500 for us 3 and the other two would be $200. Like I said we are all citizens.
I wouldn't think you'd need oz passports, but I'd hang on to those citizenship certificates incase you change your mind down the track. Aren't the other kids entitled to UK passports? They would have that right by descent surely, in which case UK passports all around, I'd have thought.
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Default Re: Do we need to get Aussie passports if we are not returning?

Originally Posted by kiwi_child
I wouldn't think you'd need oz passports, but I'd hang on to those citizenship certificates incase you change your mind down the track. Aren't the other kids entitled to UK passports? They would have that right by descent surely, in which case UK passports all around, I'd have thought.
That's my thinking. UK passports all around albeit baby and the other child will take 4 weeks to get there UK ones so safest option will be Australian for them.

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I thought the law was that if you are an Oz citizen it was mandatory to leave on a Oz passport. Although if you are leaving for good there may be some exception?
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When we left last year in sept, also with no plans to return my youngest son required an new british passport. It arrived in time without the visa in it and when we tried to leave they wouldnt let him as his visa hadnt been issued he was 6 at the time. I did go barmy and eventually they let us leave. Just in time though we nearly missed our flight.
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Hmm you might want to get some advice about people arriving "permanently" in UK on an Australian passports - I dont know what immigration would say because they are little tackers but you probably should get good advice about what could happen when you arrive at Heathrow. I'd say UK passports all round full stop. You dont need to get your Aussie ones straight away but you can do that if the mood takes you.
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Originally Posted by Tr1boy
I thought the law was that if you are an Oz citizen it was mandatory to leave on a Oz passport. Although if you are leaving for good there may be some exception?
You can leave on any passport you like. You are required to use your Australian passport to return, though.
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Originally Posted by Dorothy
You can leave on any passport you like. You are required to use your Australian passport to return, though.
I'm sure that's not correct.

http://www.citizenship.gov.au/current/travel/

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Originally Posted by Tr1boy
Doesn't matter what the site says, there is no law mandating Australian citizens to leave using an Australian passport.

What IS true is that any non-citizen in Australia needs a visa, and Australian citizens can't have a visa => so effectively you do need an Australian passport to enter Australia.
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Originally Posted by peanut21
When we left last year in sept, also with no plans to return my youngest son required an new british passport. It arrived in time without the visa in it and when we tried to leave they wouldnt let him as his visa hadnt been issued he was 6 at the time. I did go barmy and eventually they let us leave. Just in time though we nearly missed our flight.
the exact same thing happened to my family on our return to uk,my 7yr old daughter left oz with a new british passport with no visa in it and was told that she may not be able to leave but we could
as if we would have left her.
they made such a fuss,we felt angry, humiliated and embarrassed.
there is no doubt a reason for this, but they could have been a bit more diplomatic,caring,sensitive,,,
they don't want you in their country,they don't want you to leave!!!
still trying to get my head round that one.
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Originally Posted by fitz
the exact same thing happened to my family on our return to uk,my 7yr old daughter left oz with a new british passport with no visa in it and was told that she may not be able to leave but we could

Told by whom?
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Told by whom?
EXACTLY!!!!!!
the girl at the airport check in desk,i must say she took great delight in telling us as well.
ahh well it's now a distant memory
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Originally Posted by JAJ
Doesn't matter what the site says, there is no law mandating Australian citizens to leave using an Australian passport.

What IS true is that any non-citizen in Australia needs a visa, and Australian citizens can't have a visa => so effectively you do need an Australian passport to enter Australia.
FFS And the effective difference is?
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FFS And the effective difference is?
The difference is that an Australian citizen does not need an Australian passport to leave Australia, but does to enter.
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Originally Posted by fitz
EXACTLY!!!!!!
the girl at the airport check in desk,i must say she took great delight in telling us as well.
Airline check-in staff do not make the law, and are not involved in customs/law enforcement either. So presumably you insisted on speaking to a supervisor ... ?
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