Do hairdressers need experience or does a qualification count?
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Hi, Lacey,
I have been working in hairsalons for 9 years, the deeming date given by TRA was Aug 1998, which is 3 months after I qualified. Therefore at the time of application I was classed as having 6 years experience. I think at the time I had to of been working fir 2 out of the last 3 years in a hairsalon.
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I have been working in hairsalons for 9 years, the deeming date given by TRA was Aug 1998, which is 3 months after I qualified. Therefore at the time of application I was classed as having 6 years experience. I think at the time I had to of been working fir 2 out of the last 3 years in a hairsalon.
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Oh cheers Marie,
that means you were working 3 years then. Oh well I have started on the perming and dusty road of Hairdressing.
cheers for that
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that means you were working 3 years then. Oh well I have started on the perming and dusty road of Hairdressing.
cheers for that
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Oh cheers Marie,
that means you were working 3 years then. Oh well I have started on the perming and dusty road of Hairdressing.
cheers for that
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that means you were working 3 years then. Oh well I have started on the perming and dusty road of Hairdressing.
cheers for that
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Originally Posted by castrie
Hi there
I am interested how much experience a hairdresser needs to have to be able to migrate to Oz for 60 point. Would I be able to apply as soon as i have the relevent qualification?
Thanks in advance
Castrue
I am interested how much experience a hairdresser needs to have to be able to migrate to Oz for 60 point. Would I be able to apply as soon as i have the relevent qualification?
Thanks in advance
Castrue
Hairdressers are now on the Migration in Demand List (MODL) and attarcts a further 15 points.
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Not necessarily ... if you can secure a State Nomination a Skills Matching visa becomes an option, which "only" requires 6 months of skilled work ...
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You may be able to obtain a successful TRA however, to apply for Migration to Australia, a minimum of 12 months working experience will be needed.
Hairdressers are now on the Migration in Demand List (MODL) and attarcts a further 15 points.
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Not necessarily ... if you can secure a State Nomination a Skills Matching visa becomes an option, which "only" requires 6 months of skilled work ...
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The way the question was asked (specifying a 60 pts occupation) implies the applicant wishes to apply for a 136 not a 134. If applying for a 134 only I would Ithen agree with your comment.
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Err ... no, I don't think it does actually ... but let's agree to differ ...
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The way the question was asked (specifying a 60 pts occupation) implies the applicant wishes to apply for a 136 not a 134. If applying for a 134 only I would Ithen agree with your comment.
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The way the question was asked (specifying a 60 pts occupation) implies the applicant wishes to apply for a 136 not a 134. If applying for a 134 only I would Ithen agree with your comment.
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Err ... no, I don't think it does actually ... but let's agree to differ ...
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Oh Dear I feel we have started a row. No not really. I was told that I would have to have three years experience. That what it says in booklet 6 and on the immi website. The MODL points as I belive are only awarded if you can get a positive TRA and to get that you need to have three years working expeience or be able to prove you have been doing the job for 6 years (with wage slips and all that).
This is what I have been led to believe, I don't know about the other visa you were talking about where you need six months working. Give us a clue and i'll have that one.
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This is what I have been led to believe, I don't know about the other visa you were talking about where you need six months working. Give us a clue and i'll have that one.
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Originally Posted by lacey21
Oh Dear I feel we have started a row. No not really. I was told that I would have to have three years experience. That what it says in booklet 6 and on the immi website. The MODL points as I belive are only awarded if you can get a positive TRA and to get that you need to have three years working expeience or be able to prove you have been doing the job for 6 years (with wage slips and all that).
This is what I have been led to believe, I don't know about the other visa you were talking about where you need six months working. Give us a clue and i'll have that one.
cheers
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This is what I have been led to believe, I don't know about the other visa you were talking about where you need six months working. Give us a clue and i'll have that one.
cheers
Lace
The confusion expressed demonstrates the need to provide accurate and complete information when seeking advise, this is because Migration laws in Australia are convoluted, dynimic and some time contradictory added to it is the ear say information obtain from various unqualified sources.
The visa referred to by Alan is called "Skill Matching (Migrant) Class BR, subclass 134. This is an application to have one's details included on a data base which is perused by participating prospective employers (state or territory). There are no fees at the time of submission however, once an employer has selected an individual, he submits a nomination application to ASPC the applicant is notified and should the position be accepted, the fee then applies, this the "second installment" and as it stands today, the fee is AUD1845.00
The criteria for that visa are very similar to most other visas under the skill umbrella whereby it requires a skill's assessment by the appropriate authority, the occupation is listed and certainly the mandatory documentation submitted with the applicant's application including medicals, penal clearances and so on..., however, it is not points tested.
The applicant will remain on that list for 2 years.
When submitting an application for skill independent Sc 136 for example, it is always wise to be included on the skill matching data base just as a fall back.
I hope the above clarifies the situation.
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Cheers Andre,
it does a little but what I can't understand is that you still need to have the TRA look at your quals if you want to be a Hairdresser. I would still have to work 2 years or is it 3? I have no idea now! I wont get my skills assessed by the TRA cos I haven't finished my qual until June this year but I do work in Hairdressing now and have a job.
It is all very confusing.
Lace ;(
it does a little but what I can't understand is that you still need to have the TRA look at your quals if you want to be a Hairdresser. I would still have to work 2 years or is it 3? I have no idea now! I wont get my skills assessed by the TRA cos I haven't finished my qual until June this year but I do work in Hairdressing now and have a job.
It is all very confusing.
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Andre,
The details and possibilities offered by Skills Matching visas aren't known by all migration agents ... and your answer isn't quite complete because a Skills Matching visa is an option where a State Nomination is secured from one of the participating State or Territory Governments (South Australia, Victoria, and Tasmania).
Where an intending applicant doesn't have a lot of recent work experience, and has an occupation that is likely to secure a State Nomination one strategy (and we have used this a few times) is therefore to obtain the skills assessment classification, secure a State Nomination, and then apply for a Skills Matching permanent residency visa.
I raise this as an option because the occupation of Hairdresser will most likely secure a State Nomination in the participating States noted above, and could therefore allow an application under the non points tested Skills Matching pathway, rather than a Skilled Independent application.
Hope this clarifies matters.
Best regards.
The details and possibilities offered by Skills Matching visas aren't known by all migration agents ... and your answer isn't quite complete because a Skills Matching visa is an option where a State Nomination is secured from one of the participating State or Territory Governments (South Australia, Victoria, and Tasmania).
Where an intending applicant doesn't have a lot of recent work experience, and has an occupation that is likely to secure a State Nomination one strategy (and we have used this a few times) is therefore to obtain the skills assessment classification, secure a State Nomination, and then apply for a Skills Matching permanent residency visa.
I raise this as an option because the occupation of Hairdresser will most likely secure a State Nomination in the participating States noted above, and could therefore allow an application under the non points tested Skills Matching pathway, rather than a Skilled Independent application.
Hope this clarifies matters.
Best regards.
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Hi Lacey,
The confusion expressed demonstrates the need to provide accurate and complete information when seeking advise, this is because Migration laws in Australia are convoluted, dynimic and some time contradictory added to it is the ear say information obtain from various unqualified sources.
The visa referred to by Alan is called "Skill Matching (Migrant) Class BR, subclass 134. This is an application to have one's details included on a data base which is perused by participating prospective employers (state or territory). There are no fees at the time of submission however, once an employer has selected an individual, he submits a nomination application to ASPC the applicant is notified and should the position be accepted, the fee then applies, this the "second installment" and as it stands today, the fee is AUD1845.00
The criteria for that visa are very similar to most other visas under the skill umbrella whereby it requires a skill's assessment by the appropriate authority, the occupation is listed and certainly the mandatory documentation submitted with the applicant's application including medicals, penal clearances and so on..., however, it is not points tested.
The applicant will remain on that list for 2 years.
When submitting an application for skill independent Sc 136 for example, it is always wise to be included on the skill matching data base just as a fall back.
I hope the above clarifies the situation.
Kind regards
Andre
The confusion expressed demonstrates the need to provide accurate and complete information when seeking advise, this is because Migration laws in Australia are convoluted, dynimic and some time contradictory added to it is the ear say information obtain from various unqualified sources.
The visa referred to by Alan is called "Skill Matching (Migrant) Class BR, subclass 134. This is an application to have one's details included on a data base which is perused by participating prospective employers (state or territory). There are no fees at the time of submission however, once an employer has selected an individual, he submits a nomination application to ASPC the applicant is notified and should the position be accepted, the fee then applies, this the "second installment" and as it stands today, the fee is AUD1845.00
The criteria for that visa are very similar to most other visas under the skill umbrella whereby it requires a skill's assessment by the appropriate authority, the occupation is listed and certainly the mandatory documentation submitted with the applicant's application including medicals, penal clearances and so on..., however, it is not points tested.
The applicant will remain on that list for 2 years.
When submitting an application for skill independent Sc 136 for example, it is always wise to be included on the skill matching data base just as a fall back.
I hope the above clarifies the situation.
Kind regards
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Lace,
Also, remember that the requirements for securing a positive skills assessment classification from TRA are entirely separate from the work experience requirements that pertain to the subsequent visa application ...
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Also, remember that the requirements for securing a positive skills assessment classification from TRA are entirely separate from the work experience requirements that pertain to the subsequent visa application ...
Best regards.
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Oh Dear I feel we have started a row. No not really. I was told that I would have to have three years experience. That what it says in booklet 6 and on the immi website. The MODL points as I belive are only awarded if you can get a positive TRA and to get that you need to have three years working expeience or be able to prove you have been doing the job for 6 years (with wage slips and all that).
This is what I have been led to believe, I don't know about the other visa you were talking about where you need six months working. Give us a clue and i'll have that one.
cheers
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This is what I have been led to believe, I don't know about the other visa you were talking about where you need six months working. Give us a clue and i'll have that one.
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Andre,
The details and possibilities offered by Skills Matching visas aren't known by all migration agents ... and your answer isn't quite complete because a Skills Matching visa is an option where a State Nomination is secured from one of the participating State or Territory Governments (South Australia, Victoria, and Tasmania).
Where an intending applicant doesn't have a lot of recent work experience, and has an occupation that is likely to secure a State Nomination one strategy (and we have used this a few times) is therefore to obtain the skills assessment classification, secure a State Nomination, and then apply for a Skills Matching permanent residency visa.
I raise this as an option because the occupation of Hairdresser will most likely secure a State Nomination in the participating States noted above, and could therefore allow an application under the non points tested Skills Matching pathway, rather than a Skilled Independent application.
Hope this clarifies matters.
Best regards.
The details and possibilities offered by Skills Matching visas aren't known by all migration agents ... and your answer isn't quite complete because a Skills Matching visa is an option where a State Nomination is secured from one of the participating State or Territory Governments (South Australia, Victoria, and Tasmania).
Where an intending applicant doesn't have a lot of recent work experience, and has an occupation that is likely to secure a State Nomination one strategy (and we have used this a few times) is therefore to obtain the skills assessment classification, secure a State Nomination, and then apply for a Skills Matching permanent residency visa.
I raise this as an option because the occupation of Hairdresser will most likely secure a State Nomination in the participating States noted above, and could therefore allow an application under the non points tested Skills Matching pathway, rather than a Skilled Independent application.
Hope this clarifies matters.
Best regards.
The difference is that the nomination from the participating state does not need to be secured to submit an application for skill matching. Given the skill matching application does not attract a first installment, it is some time advantageous to submit and then hunt for a nominator.
The advantage in doing so is that participating nominators do peruse the data base as well as the applicant or his agent's approach. I have on occasion approached a state for prospective nomimnation and the same state, decided to go by the data base in lieu and picked my client anyway, this is because their left hand do'nt know what their right hand is doing must of the time furthermore, when acting for my client I always atempt to live no stone unturned.
As to the info been incomplete it is because this is sufficient info. to have a broad understanding of that visa and certainly appreciate it's intent.
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Noted ... though I would generally encourage clients to pro-actively seek the State Nomination (with our assistance if required) before the Skills Matching application is submitted so they don't incur what are likely to be unnecessary time and costs putting together a visa application ... lodging a Skills Matching visa application and then seeking a State Nomination is (in my view) putting the proverbial cart before the horse.
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Kind regards.
Originally Posted by iNTERLINK
Hi Alan,
The difference is that the nomination from the participating state does not need to be secured to submit an application for skill matching. Given the skill matching application does not attract a first installment, it is some time advantageous to submit and then hunt for a nominator.
The advantage in doing so is that participating nominators do peruse the data base as well as the applicant or his agent's approach. I have on occasion approached a state for prospective nomimnation and the same state, decided to go by the data base in lieu and picked my client anyway, this is because their left hand do'nt know what their right hand is doing must of the time furthermore, when acting for my client I always atempt to live no stone unturned.
As to the info been incomplete it is because this is sufficient info. to have a broad understanding of that visa and certainly appreciate it's intent.
Kind regards
Anbre
The difference is that the nomination from the participating state does not need to be secured to submit an application for skill matching. Given the skill matching application does not attract a first installment, it is some time advantageous to submit and then hunt for a nominator.
The advantage in doing so is that participating nominators do peruse the data base as well as the applicant or his agent's approach. I have on occasion approached a state for prospective nomimnation and the same state, decided to go by the data base in lieu and picked my client anyway, this is because their left hand do'nt know what their right hand is doing must of the time furthermore, when acting for my client I always atempt to live no stone unturned.
As to the info been incomplete it is because this is sufficient info. to have a broad understanding of that visa and certainly appreciate it's intent.
Kind regards
Anbre
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