Jp

From what I've read it seems that getting first job in Australia is
pretty tough. Lack of 'local experience' often gets people refused. It's
"almost impossible", they say.

But what about Brits? Do they face the same problem? Maybe it's because
Australian employers regard their UK experience and/or references? Or
maybe just being British (or NZer or American or Canadian makes it
easier or maybe no problem at all?

Altough it may be interesting as a social issue itself, but my point is:
Would working for some time, let it be a year or so, in the UK help in
getting a job in Australia? Of course, "it's always better", but does it
make a substantial difference for a not Anglo-Saxon person?

Please share experience (or thoughts or comments

Regards,
jp

Jaj

British people can face the same problems, but are less likely to
simply because many Australians have lived in the UK (or are
originally from the UK). This means that there is a much higher
chance that an Australian recruiter will be familiar with UK
qualifications and also with UK companies. This puts many newly
arrived British people at an advantage in the labour market compared
to most other migrants, although still at a disadvantage compared to
Australians.

NZers are usually ok too, Americans and Canadians somewhat less so
because Australians are less familiar with North America compared to
the UK or NZ.

I'm not sure if it's worth going to the UK for 1 year if you've not
lived there already. You'd have the 'local experience' hurdle in the
UK too - you might as well bite the bullet and head for Australia and
face the issue only once.

Jeremy

    >On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 09:42:28 +0200, jp wrote:
    >From what I've read it seems that getting first job in Australia is
    >pretty tough. Lack of 'local experience' often gets people refused. It's
    >"almost impossible", they say.
    >But what about Brits? Do they face the same problem? Maybe it's because
    >Australian employers regard their UK experience and/or references? Or
    >maybe just being British (or NZer or American or Canadian makes it
    >easier or maybe no problem at all?
    >Altough it may be interesting as a social issue itself, but my point is:
    >Would working for some time, let it be a year or so, in the UK help in
    >getting a job in Australia? Of course, "it's always better", but does it
    >make a substantial difference for a not Anglo-Saxon person?
    >Please share experience (or thoughts or comments
    >Regards,
    >jp

This is not intended to be legal advice in any jurisdiction

sk686

The IT related technologies are still dominated by US companies worldwide. Oracle, Cisco, Microsoft, Peoplesoft, IBM, Intel, Motorola, HP, Sun Microsystems, EMC, to name a few. Not to mention the US multinationals with Asia Pacific region headquarters in Australia.

How difficult is it for US Citizens with US IT experience, US Degrees, and Certifications (Oracle OCP, Cisco CCIE or Microsoft MCSE), to land their first jobs in Australia?

I checked the following site:

http://www.jobnet.com.au/jobtools/jn...&in_sessionid=

And found quite a few IT jobs for people with experience and certifications, in these US IT related technologies.

My question is, will the local Australian companies (which in some cases may be a subsidiary of a US company) be willing to hire US candidates with only US degree, certification and experience, and no local experience?

Thanks for your responses!

Michael Hoffman

sk686 wrote in
news:[email protected]:

    > My question is, will the local Australian companies (which in some cases
    > may be a subsidiary of a US company) be willing to hire US candidates
    > with only US degree, certification and experience, and no local
    > experience?

I would love to know the answer to that question as well! Provided there is
a good one.

I suspect it will all come down to networking and interviewing skills. My
wife and I have the unique fortune to have the main recruiter in the HR
department of a major Australian company help us with "converting" our US
style resumes to Aussie CVs. Guess we'll see if it helps any.

Mike

max kilby

The answer is yes!

We've been here nearly 5 months and apart from a short period where I was doing some vine pruning for a very little money there has been no interest in my skills at all.

Have reformatted the UK style CV and taken some professional advice and hope to change this soon!

Incidentally - my wife (also an IT person) has managed to 'score' a part time office administration job (which was OK as we hope to 'downsize') through someone we know.

They say that it's not what you know but who you know which certainly seems to be the case in South Australia.

If there are any potential Ozzie employers reading this please drop me a mail!!! :-) I can turn my hand to most things!

Cheers,

MAX

leanda

My brother got a job after 7 days, phoned up a printers to see if they had vacancies and was told no but try this number, happened a few times and then got offered a job, so I suppose its the trade / profession you are in, he is based in Brisbane, where one day if they ever look at our application is where we will be heading, so good luck to all those looking for jobs out in Oz.

sk686

Try http://www.aussieresumes.com/

They do a FREE resume critique!

Michael Hoffman

sk686 wrote in
news:[email protected]:

    >> My wife and I have the unique fortune to have the main recruiter in
    >> the HR department of a major Australian company help us with
    >> "converting" our US style resumes to Aussie CVs. Guess we'll
    >> see if it helps any.
    >
    >
    >> Mike
    >
    >
    >
    > Try http://www.aussieresumes.com/
    >
    >
    >
    > They do a FREE resume critique!

I don't think I said anything the HR person charging us. Personally, I
prefer someone I know.

Mike

sk686

I don't think I said you did, nor did I think, you did.

This is a forum, so I put the information.

If you don't need it, someone else might use it.

That's how I get a lot of good information from this forum.

Every resource or information might not be applicable to everyone. But it doesn't hurt if it's out here open to the public, and someone uses it.

ptlabs

That's quite misleading. It's not free on its own.


Peter

Aussie Resumes

Peter,

I felt compelled to reply to your message and clarify your point - I'm unsure why you believe our free critiques to be misleading and not free on their own. The free critique we offer is indeed free (on its own). We offer free critiques, with no obligation whatsoever.

Regards,
Tara West (Business Partner)

ptlabs

Tara,

Thanks for your note. I can't seem to find the elusive link that leads me to the free critique. Maybe I'm getting old. Any pointers?


Peter

Aussie Resumes

Peter,

The link is at the top right of every page - a flashing man and question mark (from memory !) There's also a link on several other pages on the left hand side - under the navigation bar (again, from memory, on the career centre home page?).

Hope this helps.

Regards,
Tara West

ptlabs

Tara,

Thanks for the pointer. I'm getting old indeed.

I think we should lay this matter to rest, as this forum is about immigration matters, and this is getting off topic.

Regards
Peter

sk686

Tara,

Thanks a lot for your clarification!

First, I thought if it was me. Because I checked out the link before I posted it.

But now I know it's not me, it's ptlabs!