The cultural aspects of Australia
Oct 20th 2003, 10:12 am
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Re: The cultural aspects of Australia
"Hans de Visser" <member@british_expats.com> wrote in message
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> Originally posted by Axel Van Kampen
> > ....
> > Same here. We drink tea and eat dinner.
> No we don't. I may not have been here as long as you have, but all I've
> ever heard is morning tea this,
Breakfast we call it.
afternoon tea that, and it hardly ever
> involves warm brown watery liquid... Maybe there is just a larger pommy
> influency here in Qld?
Must be. Or perhaps you mix with poms or a particularly pommie influenced
crowd.
Where I work and live, breakfast is brekkie, tea is tea, lunch is lunch and
dinner is dinner, supper is supper. Always has been.
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> Originally posted by Axel Van Kampen
> > ....
> > Same here. We drink tea and eat dinner.
> No we don't. I may not have been here as long as you have, but all I've
> ever heard is morning tea this,
Breakfast we call it.
afternoon tea that, and it hardly ever
> involves warm brown watery liquid... Maybe there is just a larger pommy
> influency here in Qld?
Must be. Or perhaps you mix with poms or a particularly pommie influenced
crowd.
Where I work and live, breakfast is brekkie, tea is tea, lunch is lunch and
dinner is dinner, supper is supper. Always has been.
Oct 20th 2003, 8:26 pm
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Re: The cultural aspects of Australia
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> Axel
> AFL means jack squiddly to people in Sydney.
Its by far the largest code Australiawide .
> The football world cup was one of channel 9s highest raters last year
> and Australia was not even playing in it.
If by 'football' you means soccer, yes it probably was. But this is a
competiton that only happens once every four years. Plus the fact that
soccer is a GLOBAL sport, not English.
Just look at South America, soccer is it!
And lets listen to Johnny Warren, Australias No. 1 soccer aficionado. He
recognises that even USA has a better domestic soccer comp than Australia.
The quality of domestic soccer in Australia is crap by world standards
> Current market test product is Caramel Kit Kats
> Yes there are indy cars but everyone I speak to is far more into the F1.
> Europe does show Indy cars on TV but the US does host F1.
Australia hosts both. How many European countries host Indy?
If it wasn't popular, it wouldn't be here. Simple as that.
> Go to London and there are 10s of thousands of Aussies
How many did you say?
on WHVs
> experiencing the culture of their forefathers.
Excuse me: what is 'WHV'?
Go into pubs and offices
> in London and you are just as likely to be served by an Aussie. The
> reason they go to London is the variety of work, language and cultural
> familiarity. You may not like London but I know plenty of Aussies that
> have loved the place (my wife included).
That'd be a minority.
Most Aussies I know have no interest in travelling outside Australia. They
may go to Bali (not lately), Fiji or NZ.
A Swedish travel agent recently described Australia as 'a nicer USA' and
Sydney as 'Australias Los Angeles'
My cousin (who has lived in Sacramento for forty years) felt as she was
still in California when visitng.
Our national capital was designed by an American, it looks American.
> Australian culture as you stated was originally based on UK culture and
> hence the poms go there.
What you just stated is probably correct: "originally". Originally is the
operative word here.
So was the US culture. Many years ago it was. Since then, it's all changed,
both in the US and Australia.
> Axel I often read your comments and just wish you backed them up with
> facts. You stated that anyone who has been to Sydney knows that it based
> on American culture.
I said that anyone who has been to LA AND Sydney would see that.
Have
I live in Sydney and find your statement total
> BOLLOCKS.
Have you been to LA? Or anywhere else in the US?
>Australia is not an American cultural colony
Afraid it is.
and most Aussies
> I speak avoid what US influence there is.
I do agree that many Aussies avoid it and that they also think that we have
too much American influence. They do believe that we will lose our identity
that way.
Surely you must have heard that been mentioned?
That pretty much proves my point I think.
> Europeans that emigrated generally had a choice of US or Oz. They
> deliberatley did not choose America.
Not so much because of choice but of necessity. You can't pick and choose
anymore, it's getting harder and harder to get a resident visa in many
countries these days, US and Australia being two.
It's easier to get in to Australia than the US these days. to get in to the
US you pretty much have to be sponsored by a company.
Thats how I ended up working in NY.
> Europe is not boring.
Thats a matter of opinion. I think it's a drag, real old, backwards and
boring.
And THATS why people want out.
Yes Europe is
> old that is what makes the place rich. Wealth is about more than cash, a
> concept a lot of Americans struggle with.
So what else is wealth about then? I think you'll find that most Aussies are
pretty desperate for $$$ & ccc as well.
> In Sydney British, Chinese, Italian, Greek, Thai, Serb, Croat and other
> cultures also have a much greater influence.
Sure. Not as big as the underlying US inflennce though.
How many Serbian or Thai fast food chains, movies or musical fads do you
know about?
It's all Krispy Kreme, Burger King, Carls Junior, Terminator, Brittany
Spears and Xtina Aguilera here.
The mix of these influences
> is helps make Sydney a great place to live. Friends, Frasier, 20%
> poverty rate, unaffordable healthcare, 10,000 gun related deaths a year
> are not the influences I witness.
Not anymore. But we did have the worlds largest massacre by any one man in
'96 in Port Arthur.
It's also a matter of the size of the population, it's only natural that a
country with 260 million people has more of everything (including gun
related deaths) than a country the size of 19 million people.
> Axel you will not make yourself popular in Oz with your statement.
With who? I'm already popular, I've been here 21 years, I KNOW what Aussies
are like as I'm now one of them.
Yep
> pommie bashing might make you a few friends but a quote I remember
> from an Aussie is "better a pom than a yank. At least you have a sense
> of humour."
I never heard that statement. Most Aussies admire Americans for their down
to earth attitude. Australians know that Americans in general are not like
Dubya.
The bottom line is that anyone who comes out here and expect to see a
tropical England is going to be very disappointed.
I know this from first hand experience as I work for a company that imported
18 UK citizens in 2001. 15 have gone back as Oz was not what they expected.
In fact, my ex collegue stated after his first two weeks here that he was
blown away by the massive US like lifestyle we have.
BTW, ever been to the Gold Coast? If THAT is not US culture I don't know
what is.
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> Axel
> AFL means jack squiddly to people in Sydney.
Its by far the largest code Australiawide .
> The football world cup was one of channel 9s highest raters last year
> and Australia was not even playing in it.
If by 'football' you means soccer, yes it probably was. But this is a
competiton that only happens once every four years. Plus the fact that
soccer is a GLOBAL sport, not English.
Just look at South America, soccer is it!
And lets listen to Johnny Warren, Australias No. 1 soccer aficionado. He
recognises that even USA has a better domestic soccer comp than Australia.
The quality of domestic soccer in Australia is crap by world standards
> Current market test product is Caramel Kit Kats
> Yes there are indy cars but everyone I speak to is far more into the F1.
> Europe does show Indy cars on TV but the US does host F1.
Australia hosts both. How many European countries host Indy?
If it wasn't popular, it wouldn't be here. Simple as that.
> Go to London and there are 10s of thousands of Aussies
How many did you say?
on WHVs
> experiencing the culture of their forefathers.
Excuse me: what is 'WHV'?
Go into pubs and offices
> in London and you are just as likely to be served by an Aussie. The
> reason they go to London is the variety of work, language and cultural
> familiarity. You may not like London but I know plenty of Aussies that
> have loved the place (my wife included).
That'd be a minority.
Most Aussies I know have no interest in travelling outside Australia. They
may go to Bali (not lately), Fiji or NZ.
A Swedish travel agent recently described Australia as 'a nicer USA' and
Sydney as 'Australias Los Angeles'
My cousin (who has lived in Sacramento for forty years) felt as she was
still in California when visitng.
Our national capital was designed by an American, it looks American.
> Australian culture as you stated was originally based on UK culture and
> hence the poms go there.
What you just stated is probably correct: "originally". Originally is the
operative word here.
So was the US culture. Many years ago it was. Since then, it's all changed,
both in the US and Australia.
> Axel I often read your comments and just wish you backed them up with
> facts. You stated that anyone who has been to Sydney knows that it based
> on American culture.
I said that anyone who has been to LA AND Sydney would see that.
Have
I live in Sydney and find your statement total
> BOLLOCKS.
Have you been to LA? Or anywhere else in the US?
>Australia is not an American cultural colony
Afraid it is.
and most Aussies
> I speak avoid what US influence there is.
I do agree that many Aussies avoid it and that they also think that we have
too much American influence. They do believe that we will lose our identity
that way.
Surely you must have heard that been mentioned?
That pretty much proves my point I think.
> Europeans that emigrated generally had a choice of US or Oz. They
> deliberatley did not choose America.
Not so much because of choice but of necessity. You can't pick and choose
anymore, it's getting harder and harder to get a resident visa in many
countries these days, US and Australia being two.
It's easier to get in to Australia than the US these days. to get in to the
US you pretty much have to be sponsored by a company.
Thats how I ended up working in NY.
> Europe is not boring.
Thats a matter of opinion. I think it's a drag, real old, backwards and
boring.
And THATS why people want out.
Yes Europe is
> old that is what makes the place rich. Wealth is about more than cash, a
> concept a lot of Americans struggle with.
So what else is wealth about then? I think you'll find that most Aussies are
pretty desperate for $$$ & ccc as well.
> In Sydney British, Chinese, Italian, Greek, Thai, Serb, Croat and other
> cultures also have a much greater influence.
Sure. Not as big as the underlying US inflennce though.
How many Serbian or Thai fast food chains, movies or musical fads do you
know about?
It's all Krispy Kreme, Burger King, Carls Junior, Terminator, Brittany
Spears and Xtina Aguilera here.
The mix of these influences
> is helps make Sydney a great place to live. Friends, Frasier, 20%
> poverty rate, unaffordable healthcare, 10,000 gun related deaths a year
> are not the influences I witness.
Not anymore. But we did have the worlds largest massacre by any one man in
'96 in Port Arthur.
It's also a matter of the size of the population, it's only natural that a
country with 260 million people has more of everything (including gun
related deaths) than a country the size of 19 million people.
> Axel you will not make yourself popular in Oz with your statement.
With who? I'm already popular, I've been here 21 years, I KNOW what Aussies
are like as I'm now one of them.
Yep
> pommie bashing might make you a few friends but a quote I remember
> from an Aussie is "better a pom than a yank. At least you have a sense
> of humour."
I never heard that statement. Most Aussies admire Americans for their down
to earth attitude. Australians know that Americans in general are not like
Dubya.
The bottom line is that anyone who comes out here and expect to see a
tropical England is going to be very disappointed.
I know this from first hand experience as I work for a company that imported
18 UK citizens in 2001. 15 have gone back as Oz was not what they expected.
In fact, my ex collegue stated after his first two weeks here that he was
blown away by the massive US like lifestyle we have.
BTW, ever been to the Gold Coast? If THAT is not US culture I don't know
what is.
Oct 20th 2003, 8:55 pm
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Re: The cultural aspects of Australia
Well, I guess if sports, fast food restaurants, and movies define the culture of a country then Canada is pretty much the United States of the north.
We have Major League Baseball in Canada with the Toronto Blue Jays and the Montreal Expos. We have the NBA in Canada with the Toronto Raptors and used to have the Vancouver Grizzlies. Then there is indy car racing, we have a Molson Indy race in Vancouver and Toronto every year, and Montreal but not sure of that one. The fast food restaurants, my god, McDonalds, Burger king (which is Hungry Jacks in Australia), KFC, Wendy's (the burger place not ice cream), Arby's, Dairy Queen, Subway, and I am sure there are heaps more. As far as movies go, the second a movie is relaeased in the US it's released here in Canada. Also, all the televeision channels. Out of the 50 or so cable channels I get, I am guessing that about half or more of them are american channels, showing american news and shows.
But all of these things I don't necessarily believe define a culture. I don't think you will find to many Canadians who consider themselves to be anything like an American even despite all the influences. Ice Hockey is still the number one sport in this country, and a sentiment held by the vast majority of the population. The people and the way of thinking defines a place more then the entertainment. Having experienced some of Australia and more of America then I can handle I don't find a whole lot of similarity between Americans and Australians. But it could just be me.
We have Major League Baseball in Canada with the Toronto Blue Jays and the Montreal Expos. We have the NBA in Canada with the Toronto Raptors and used to have the Vancouver Grizzlies. Then there is indy car racing, we have a Molson Indy race in Vancouver and Toronto every year, and Montreal but not sure of that one. The fast food restaurants, my god, McDonalds, Burger king (which is Hungry Jacks in Australia), KFC, Wendy's (the burger place not ice cream), Arby's, Dairy Queen, Subway, and I am sure there are heaps more. As far as movies go, the second a movie is relaeased in the US it's released here in Canada. Also, all the televeision channels. Out of the 50 or so cable channels I get, I am guessing that about half or more of them are american channels, showing american news and shows.
But all of these things I don't necessarily believe define a culture. I don't think you will find to many Canadians who consider themselves to be anything like an American even despite all the influences. Ice Hockey is still the number one sport in this country, and a sentiment held by the vast majority of the population. The people and the way of thinking defines a place more then the entertainment. Having experienced some of Australia and more of America then I can handle I don't find a whole lot of similarity between Americans and Australians. But it could just be me.
Oct 20th 2003, 10:24 pm
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Re: The cultural aspects of Australia
Gold Coast is Australian/Florida/Las Vegas with a bit Brighton Beach chucked in. It is a mix of influences. Then there are the meter maids which is Aussie through and though, not US not UK.
I have been to LA, New York, Boston, Tulsa, Bartlesville, Providence, skied in Colorado, toured the 4 corners and Florida. I am not ignorant of American culture and their way of life. I have worked with Americans and had good American friends.
AFL is derided in Sydney and described as Aerial ping pong. As for your argument AFL is not American in origin but Australian.
You are right that Ozzies want their bling bling but unlike the US Aussies pay their high taxes (all be it very begrudgingly) to support the less well off in society, a concept that I have heard described as communist in the US. Yes OZ had Port Arthur (UK had Hungerford) but gun deaths in Oz run in the hundreds and not the ten thousand.
When I was on about football I was on about participation. The NSL is crap but there are now 150 Australians plying their trade in English football.
You are right that football is the world game but its origins are in the UK. It was spread by British workers who were trading around the world. In the 100 years since each country has added its own style to the game. Again though it is not a US sport.
You comment about soccer made me laugh as it is something no one here can agree on. Each calls their own code football. Football has not always been so popular but the influx of migrants from Europe ignited the flame that has made the game highly popular. Every Sunday afternoon SBS dedicates over 4 hours of programming to the game. Every monday night there is an hours highlights package of the English Premiership. There are far too many Man Utd and Liverpool fans for my liking (I do not see any Lakers or Cowboys fans)
Your experience of Aussies having no interest in going to Europe is not one I recognise. It is cheaper and easier to visit the region but they all save for the big European trip. They will not go every very often but that is because of the time and expense and not wanting.
The all Krispy Kreme, Burger King stuff is something that I see in the UK as well. The British and Europeans watch just as much Hollywood output. I find there is more ethnic and foreign takeaway food here than the UK. The foreign food is something that has appeared in the last 30 years and has improved Sydney fantastically (I am the first to say that British culinary culture is poor).
My point is that Australia is not a US monocultural colony but a mix of European cultures with the usual American stuff that I have witnessed elsewhere in the world.
I have been to LA, New York, Boston, Tulsa, Bartlesville, Providence, skied in Colorado, toured the 4 corners and Florida. I am not ignorant of American culture and their way of life. I have worked with Americans and had good American friends.
AFL is derided in Sydney and described as Aerial ping pong. As for your argument AFL is not American in origin but Australian.
You are right that Ozzies want their bling bling but unlike the US Aussies pay their high taxes (all be it very begrudgingly) to support the less well off in society, a concept that I have heard described as communist in the US. Yes OZ had Port Arthur (UK had Hungerford) but gun deaths in Oz run in the hundreds and not the ten thousand.
When I was on about football I was on about participation. The NSL is crap but there are now 150 Australians plying their trade in English football.
You are right that football is the world game but its origins are in the UK. It was spread by British workers who were trading around the world. In the 100 years since each country has added its own style to the game. Again though it is not a US sport.
You comment about soccer made me laugh as it is something no one here can agree on. Each calls their own code football. Football has not always been so popular but the influx of migrants from Europe ignited the flame that has made the game highly popular. Every Sunday afternoon SBS dedicates over 4 hours of programming to the game. Every monday night there is an hours highlights package of the English Premiership. There are far too many Man Utd and Liverpool fans for my liking (I do not see any Lakers or Cowboys fans)
Your experience of Aussies having no interest in going to Europe is not one I recognise. It is cheaper and easier to visit the region but they all save for the big European trip. They will not go every very often but that is because of the time and expense and not wanting.
The all Krispy Kreme, Burger King stuff is something that I see in the UK as well. The British and Europeans watch just as much Hollywood output. I find there is more ethnic and foreign takeaway food here than the UK. The foreign food is something that has appeared in the last 30 years and has improved Sydney fantastically (I am the first to say that British culinary culture is poor).
My point is that Australia is not a US monocultural colony but a mix of European cultures with the usual American stuff that I have witnessed elsewhere in the world.
Oct 21st 2003, 12:23 am
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Re: The cultural aspects of Australia
Originally posted by Axel Van Kampen
Must be. Or perhaps you mix with poms or a particularly pommie influenced crowd.
Must be. Or perhaps you mix with poms or a particularly pommie influenced crowd.
Oct 21st 2003, 12:31 am
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Re: The cultural aspects of Australia
Originally posted by Axel Van Kampen
Must be. Or perhaps you mix with poms or a particularly pommie influenced crowd.
Must be. Or perhaps you mix with poms or a particularly pommie influenced crowd.
I work with 1 pom, 1 pom born in pomland and brought up in Oz, a 1st gen pom, a Hungarian, a Croat, Irish, Indian Fijian, Sri Lankan, and a few fair dinkum anglopaddys. Not a single American. From previous offices I have worked in the above mix is not atypical.
Oct 21st 2003, 1:52 am
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Re: The cultural aspects of Australia
You do hear this a lot, but I'm going to have to disagree, because
I've never found it to be true, except on a superficial commercial
level. That is, Australian television stations buy a lot of American
shows, some of the kids dig American sport icons and wear American
sports gear, but that's about where the "cultural" similarity with
America ends. Australia is its own country and culture, related to,
but separate from, America.
Personally, I've always found Australia and Australians refreshingly
different from America and Americans. If anything Australian culture
seems to be closer to that of the UK and Ireland, with a curious mix
of rebellion and formality that seems to inform social and political
relationships--nothing like what you find in America.
Having said that, it seems that tempermentally, yanks and aussies do
get along quite well, even though the cultural signposts are a bit
off. Personally, what what endears me to Australia and Australians is
the value placed on long-term friendships--something that seems to go
by the wayside all too often in the US--sad, but true.
"Axel Van Kampen" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected] .au>...
> The people who have lived here knows that the main influence in Australia is
> the US. Anyone who has been to LA knows this.
> Just take one look at Sydney and it'll be obvious to you.
> Australia is the place where American fast food outlets kick off when they
> want to expand outside the US. It is second only to Hollywood in the
> production of western style movies.
> It has been said in the media many times that California has more in common
> with Australia than some other US states. We surf like they do, same style
> of music, the fast food culture, cheap petrol, muscle cars, architecture.
>
> Not long ago, it was suggested by some think tank that we are so close to
> the US both culturally and politically that we ought to become the 51st US
> state.
>
> It has not always been this way, back in the 50s and early 60s, the
> influence was English but that is long gone now.
>
> Probably the only hangover form Britain is that we still drive on the left
> side of the road but that will change too. We have used $$$ since '66.
I've never found it to be true, except on a superficial commercial
level. That is, Australian television stations buy a lot of American
shows, some of the kids dig American sport icons and wear American
sports gear, but that's about where the "cultural" similarity with
America ends. Australia is its own country and culture, related to,
but separate from, America.
Personally, I've always found Australia and Australians refreshingly
different from America and Americans. If anything Australian culture
seems to be closer to that of the UK and Ireland, with a curious mix
of rebellion and formality that seems to inform social and political
relationships--nothing like what you find in America.
Having said that, it seems that tempermentally, yanks and aussies do
get along quite well, even though the cultural signposts are a bit
off. Personally, what what endears me to Australia and Australians is
the value placed on long-term friendships--something that seems to go
by the wayside all too often in the US--sad, but true.
"Axel Van Kampen" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected] .au>...
> The people who have lived here knows that the main influence in Australia is
> the US. Anyone who has been to LA knows this.
> Just take one look at Sydney and it'll be obvious to you.
> Australia is the place where American fast food outlets kick off when they
> want to expand outside the US. It is second only to Hollywood in the
> production of western style movies.
> It has been said in the media many times that California has more in common
> with Australia than some other US states. We surf like they do, same style
> of music, the fast food culture, cheap petrol, muscle cars, architecture.
>
> Not long ago, it was suggested by some think tank that we are so close to
> the US both culturally and politically that we ought to become the 51st US
> state.
>
> It has not always been this way, back in the 50s and early 60s, the
> influence was English but that is long gone now.
>
> Probably the only hangover form Britain is that we still drive on the left
> side of the road but that will change too. We have used $$$ since '66.
Oct 21st 2003, 6:15 am
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Re: The cultural aspects of Australia
Wow...sure is a spirited discussion here. Spirited but enjoyable.
Oct 24th 2003, 12:26 pm
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Re: The cultural aspects of Australia
I don't think so...I thought it was
Breakfast: brekkie
morning tea
lunch
arvo tea = afternoon tea
tea = dinner.
I call my dinner = tea here..heh...and I'm from good ole Seppoland.
Dawn
"Axel Van Kampen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Hans de Visser" <member@british_expats.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > Originally posted by Axel Van Kampen
> >
> > > ....
> >
> > > Same here. We drink tea and eat dinner.
> >
> > No we don't. I may not have been here as long as you have, but all I've
> > ever heard is morning tea this,
> Breakfast we call it.
> afternoon tea that, and it hardly ever
> > involves warm brown watery liquid... Maybe there is just a larger pommy
> > influency here in Qld?
> Must be. Or perhaps you mix with poms or a particularly pommie influenced
> crowd.
> Where I work and live, breakfast is brekkie, tea is tea, lunch is lunch
and
> dinner is dinner, supper is supper. Always has been.
Breakfast: brekkie
morning tea
lunch
arvo tea = afternoon tea
tea = dinner.
I call my dinner = tea here..heh...and I'm from good ole Seppoland.
Dawn
"Axel Van Kampen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Hans de Visser" <member@british_expats.com> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > Originally posted by Axel Van Kampen
> >
> > > ....
> >
> > > Same here. We drink tea and eat dinner.
> >
> > No we don't. I may not have been here as long as you have, but all I've
> > ever heard is morning tea this,
> Breakfast we call it.
> afternoon tea that, and it hardly ever
> > involves warm brown watery liquid... Maybe there is just a larger pommy
> > influency here in Qld?
> Must be. Or perhaps you mix with poms or a particularly pommie influenced
> crowd.
> Where I work and live, breakfast is brekkie, tea is tea, lunch is lunch
and
> dinner is dinner, supper is supper. Always has been.
Oct 25th 2003, 5:59 am
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Re: The cultural aspects of Australia
Originally posted by Axel Van Kampen
>Australia is not an American cultural colony
>Australia is not an American cultural colony
Surely "American cultural" is an oxymoron?
Now I'll just sit back and await the replies - he he.
MAX
Oct 27th 2003, 5:20 pm
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Re: The cultural aspects of Australia
Originally posted by bondipom
Australia is also used by British companies to trial products and get an idea to see if they will be a success in the UK. In particular certain suburbs in Newcastle and Melbourne make up an average UK demographic.
There is more influence on Oz from the UK than the side of the road to drive on. I agree that the US influence is strengthening all the time but on what country is the influence diminishing.
Aussies love Cricket, Rugby League, football (the most particpated team sport in Australia) and Rugby Union. Grid Iron, basketball and baseball do not get a look in.
Australians go to the UK on working holidays more than any other country. The ABC broadcast more UK programs than from any other country. Out of all the post war migrants more have come from the UK than any other country.
Australia is also used by British companies to trial products and get an idea to see if they will be a success in the UK. In particular certain suburbs in Newcastle and Melbourne make up an average UK demographic.
There is more influence on Oz from the UK than the side of the road to drive on. I agree that the US influence is strengthening all the time but on what country is the influence diminishing.
Aussies love Cricket, Rugby League, football (the most particpated team sport in Australia) and Rugby Union. Grid Iron, basketball and baseball do not get a look in.
Australians go to the UK on working holidays more than any other country. The ABC broadcast more UK programs than from any other country. Out of all the post war migrants more have come from the UK than any other country.
